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While it suffers in its delivery, the concept of a group of Robin Hood-esque thieves doing good deeds is a very sound one. It's a shame it's been taken from the TV show Leverage. Along with the tagline, character's catchphrase and the characters themselves. Names have been changed and a few genders have been flipped but each character is easily and instantly recognisable. Blake = Nate = The Mastermind. Miranda = Sophie = The Grifter Jeanette = Elliot = The Hitter Darwin = Hardison = The Hacker Davenport = Parker = The Thief As for the final line in the story: it's not only ripped off but nonsensical out of context. Still, it sounded very cool when Nate said it in The San Lorenzo Job.

Considering you said you wanted to "explore" these strange rituals, I find it strange that you instead spent your verses bad-mouthing and casting them aside as 'ignorant' and 'heresy'. Next time you may want to look harder at your own prejudices before seeking to open other people's minds.

Ok, how about this? A meeting sometime between the 31st of March and the 22nd of April (there are 4 weekends in those dates) somewhere in York (actual place to be decided closer to the event). Obviously it would be in a weekend and there are 4 weekends in that date range (31-1, 7-8, 14-15 and 21-22). So, if people could please post if they can make it around then along with any suggestions/alternative plans that they have? Martin EDIT: Changed the Main Post to this

I was saying that I think its a little bit harsh saying that Starbucks is the harbinger of death.

Thats a little harsh, isn't it? I mean, they are overpriced but still...

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Well, the reason I didn't suggest a possible time is because I haven't got a clue when would be ok for me. I don't know anything much about next year other than for two weeks "in summer" I have to be on a dig. So, to my knowledge, times that are ok for me are any weekend other than 2 of the weeks in summer but I can't actually say which weeks those are. As for location, all I can say really is someplace in London, basically because its pretty easy to access from anywhere in the UK (trains and plains are dead cheap if you book in advance). I can't say anything more specific than that because I don't know anything about London other than that its that city sort of place that I think is over there *points*. Anyway, I'll pester a load of lecturers until one of them gives in and tells me what he/she knows about next year, then I'll suggest a time. Ok? (Honestly, is it really beyond anyone here to have a suggestion of their own which isn't an attempt to shoot down the whole idea?)

Ok, how about this? A meeting sometime between the 31st of March and the 22nd of April (there are 4 weekends in those dates) somewhere in York (actual place to be decided closer to the event). Obviously it would be in a weekend and there are 4 weekends in that date range (31-1, 7-8, 14-15 and 21-22). So, if people could please post if they can make it around then along with any suggestions/alternative plans that they have? Likely comers: clumber Andy Matt Dalmatia Maybe coming but unsure Jamessavic ------------------------------------- Martin

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I did mean that one of the UK/europe people should organise it. I'd do it myself but I couldn't organise mass inebriation in a brewery (to put the common phrase politely) EDIT: Just been doing some thinking about stuff for a UK/Europe get-together. Anyway, just a few thoughts I had: 1. Travel Prices shouldn't be too much trouble... any half-decent amount of notice and you can normally get really cheap flights with company's like Ryanair. 2. If it was in spring then I think it'd have to be early spring cos spring is quite a busy time of the year (If I remember rightly). 3. London is easy to get to, and while its a sort of large scale maze there are at least a few fairly obvious meeting places (if we had an half hour or so box to meet in just for the actual initial gathering, it'd probably make things simpler...or maybe not. idk...just a thought.) 4. Obviously London springs to mind as obvious location... but then there probably are better places. I don't know them though (not gone to most cities at all actually) Anyway, there we go. A few random thoughts. Probably half gibberish. Meh, I'm tired EDIT 2: I also don't think its important to have the two events coinciding. I reckon we'd be better off seeing how a UK event actually turns out before trying to get it happening at the same time as a US one just for the sake of it.

That only gives rise to the question of why you would protest a funeral. Its counter-productive. The very act of protesting at a funeral turns people away from your cause, defeating the whole purpose of the protest in the first place.

It isn't that we hated everyone... its just everyone hated us. Nobody likes the boss (and we were the boss...once upon a time...) (Although to be fair the english do seem to hate everyone...including most of the english )

The thing is, it isn't what they are protesting about that is the real problem. The real problem is the method. Funeral Protests should not be allowed. If they want to do their protests, they can. But they should do it somewhere appropriate, not funerals.

Why don't we organise a Get-together in the UK somewhere? I'm sure we'd be able to get enough members coming to it...

I think that would've caused most fan-fic authors' heads to explode from exitement.

...And now we know the truth. Why didn't I see it?

They do so love to declare things to be the work of satan don't they?

Jasy... mmm...I thought it sounded like a guy until you said you aren't... Oh well, Welcome Back/Hi [delete whichever is inappropriate]

I think trying to Glamourise being gay is also going to cause problems if we carry on with it the way its going. I agree, there is more than enough propaganda telling the world that Gay people are worse than straight people, but I don't see how that will be solved by adding a load of propaganda that says that gay people are better than striaght peopel. And that is the message that will end up coming across, that we think we're 'better'. There is no point trying to stop people hating, it won't work. People all seem to be naturally gifted when it comes to hating. We're good] at it. So trying to tell people to stop hating by flooding them with these fluffy stories isn't going to work. We need to just try and get this hate turned around and directed at the thoughtless bigots around the world. The happy stories about how someone was gay and they fought and it all turned out happy in the end... there fine for people who need reassuring. But they aren't going to change the way gay people are treated. They might help people get through the hard times, but the hard times will still happen. I think that we need to go right to the base of the problem and try and get it so that its the thoughtless bigots that are not tolerated. (and that means all bigots, because I don't doubt there are gay bigots as well, and they are just as bad as the straight ones).

I don't smoke and never will.... but to be perfectly honest I'm not too bothered about people who do smoke. I mean, its their choice and none of my business.

The way I look at it we have a lot more time dead than we get alive, so all that afterlife stuff can wait. There's time for it later. In other words, I'll think about that stuff when I get around to it, until then I'll just get on with my life, keep out of trouble and it'll probably turn out fine. If people want to have organised religion, that's their choice and they're welcome to it as long as they don't try and interfere with everyone else because really how other people live their life is none of their business. In other words, I'm not exactly aethist...I just don't follow any particular religion either because from what I can tell most religions, when you get right down to the basic stuff, have a fair poitn. They just wrap it up in a load of rubbish that I really don't have any time for.

That's a good point... you never mentioned the Diskworld system... (A bunch of old bearded wizards sitting in a tower not using magic because it's more trouble than its worth ) And Colinian, you're right. Going Postal is a great book