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Endings - 3. Chapter 3 Help

The darkness is never far away...

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Help

 

 

The doctor eyed him curiously as he entered the familiar office. “Good to see you again, Chase,” he said, removing his owlish, black-framed glasses and setting them, along with a folder, on the small table beside his chair. “I’ve been looking forward to catching up. How is your family doing?”

“They’re okay, I guess. I just found out Cindy’s been seeing a therapist, and Dad’s on a long trip so I’m not exactly sure how he’s doing.” He shook the offered hand when the man rose from his seat and stepped forward. “Thanks for seeing me on such short notice, Doc.”

“Fortunately for you, we had two cancellations this afternoon, thus the timing was advantageous. Go ahead and take your usual seat if you’d like. So, your sister’s in therapy, and you’re not sure how your father is coping?”

Chase shrugged. “Cindy’s doing well, I think, and Dad’s sent a couple of emails, but, who knows. He doesn’t say much.”

“Interesting. How about you? Tell me how you’re doing. You look a tad under the weather.”

Chase plopped down in the corner of the dark blue sofa and took a deep breath while Dr. Chorney returned to his high-backed, worn leather armchair. He’d always thought of it as the man’s throne. “I had a fever yesterday, but I’m fine now. Well, no, that’s wrong. I’m not fine at all, actually, which is why I’m here.

“I need help, Doc. I’ve made a mess of things with Hank, and I’m pretty sure I’ve lost him for good.” He leaned forward and buried his head in his hands, trying desperately not to fall apart. He focused on his breathing, aware the doctor was studying him. In through the nose, out through the mouth, in through the nose, out through the mouth….

“I see. There’s no hurry… continue when you can. Would you like some water?”

Chase shook his head and then slowly raised it, the battle won for the moment. “No thanks, I’m okay. I’m worried I’ll go into another depression, though, and that scares me. I spent the last three days in bed, and that’s how it started last time. I can’t do the hiding away thing again, and I can’t count on… I don’t have Hank to help me.”

“Then you’ve done the right thing in coming to see me. I’m not surprised you’re back here, to be honest. You weren’t able to open up, and I expected something had to give—and if you remember your previous visit, I expressed that concern.”

“I remember, and it turns out you were right.”

“Sometimes I do make sense,” he said with a smile. “What about anxiety—are you experiencing any?”

“Little blips, yeah, like just now. I had a panic attack last night, but I was able to put the brakes on it.”

“How did you manage that?”

“With the stuff you taught me… it worked.”

The doctor eyed him speculatively. “So, no pattern of attacks?”

“No, that was the first real one since before the last time I saw you, other than the occasional blips I mentioned. They don’t come out of the blue anymore, and I know why this one started.”

“And that was?”

“I was freaking out over Hank. He made it clear it was completely over between us… and… and that’s why.”

“Yet it didn’t take hold. That’s excellent!”

Momentarily buoyed by the doctor’s enthusiastic response, he found himself relaxing back into the sofa.

“Well, it sounds like you have a story to tell. So, talk to me—whatever pops into your mind—and take your time.” He finished up with a warm, coaxing smile Chase had seen many times before. It used to piss him off in the past, but it didn’t today.

He smiled back, but in truth, it probably resembled more of a grimace. Leaning forward, he began to speak, haltingly at first, and then the words came rushing out. To his own ears, he sounded pathetically frantic, but in reality, that’s what he was. At first he was all over the place, but Dr. Chorney was an easy man to talk to, so he soon settled down. He kept going until he got it all out, feeling drained but lighter by the time he was done. He didn’t have to wait long for the doctor to do his thing.

“Well, there’s certainly a lot going on with you, but I’m impressed with the conclusions you’ve reached. To do so when you are in the middle of a personal crisis makes me doubly so.”

“Really? So am I right? I was afraid to be happy?”

“Afraid? Well, fear masks many emotions. In this case, I have no doubt guilt is the basis for you doing something that was out of character. Engagements, and especially weddings, are powerful triggers. They are, for many of us—besides births—the epitome of a happy family event, and most often the biggest family celebration we can have.”

Chase nodded at this obvious truth.

“And in your case, your mother can’t be there. She doesn’t get to see her son marry.”

Sadness surged at the doctor’s blunt but true statements, and yet another light bulb flicked on. Chase’s thinking hadn’t progressed that far, so those few words helped clarify why he’d freaked out and ran from Hank’s proposal. It wasn’t just that he didn’t feel he had the right to be happy. His mom couldn’t be at their wedding.

“Oh, God. I get it now. Mom used to talk all the time about seeing me—and Cindy—get married. She loved to plan, and used to say things like Cindy should wear her hair up to show off her neck, and I should consider wearing royal blue for mine because of my coloring, and a suit over a tux, because blue suits looked better than blue tuxes. She was so good at… at stuff like that….” A familiar melancholy settled over him before more emotions reared their ugly heads, and he thought about how stupid he’d been not to have figured this out as well. “Fuck, I really screwed up.”

“And there’s the guilt talking, although now it may be more about Hank and what you did to him, rather than over your mother. Do you understand what I’m saying?”

Chase nodded, too frustrated with himself to speak… but he was listening.

“Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it’s not so easy to see clearly when you’re going through a process. You reacted to some deep-seated grief, and that’s not screwing up. It had to come out sooner or later, Chase. Your sister is right about what she called it. It is survivor’s guilt, and quite common with those left behind, particularly after a traumatic death. I expect your father would be working his way through some too… hence the sudden trip. It’s a classic response if you have the means.”

“Does it work?”

“Often, a change of scenery puts our lives into perspective because it removes us physically from a situation, and that allows emotions to sort themselves while we’re distracted by the new and unfamiliar. Anyway, back to you. You’re human, and you suffered the worst kind of loss through a long and draining ordeal, so go easy on yourself. Regardless of the why and the when, it was an important step to take in the process of letting go. It might not seem like it now, but trust me on this.”

“I should have stayed on my medication,” Chase muttered.

“Maybe, maybe not. You seem to be on the right track by coming here on your own, and you figured out the heart of the matter. To me, that means you are ready to face the guilt head on, and see it for what it is. Yes, it took a trigger, and now there are consequences to be dealt with, but there are benefits too.”

As he considered the doctor’s words, the clouds began to lift. “You mean I’m better?”

“With regards to your grief process, yes, I expect so, but that comes with a caution. It’s not to say you can’t slide back into depression, but I’m not seeing it as a major concern.”

“So, you don’t think I need to go back on the pills?”

Doctor Chorney gave him another of his patented speculative looks. “Do you want to?”

“God no, but if you think I should?”

“At some point, it’s something to consider if we feel it’s necessary, but for now, I don’t.”

“Oh.”

“You seem disappointed.”

“I need help, Doc, so maybe it would be a good idea, just in case.”

“Ah… a tactic. Do you think being on medication will help your situation with Hank?”

“What? No! I just thought….”

“Continue please. Thought what, Chase?”

“I don’t know… that it might keep me from doing something stupid.”

“Being human is not stupid.”

“You know what I mean.”

“I know what you could mean, but I want you to rethink your reasoning. You did something that was unwise, yes, and it threatens your relationship, but you didn’t go through with it. You’ve convinced me you’d already made that decision, which means you didn’t cross over the threshold of being self-destructive. You ended up making a rational decision in the end.”

“Yes, but Hank doesn’t believe me. He thinks I slept with that guy.”

“That may be, but you know the truth, so how would medication help you? You made the right choice without it, didn’t you?”

Chase nodded, certain he would not have gone any further than the one kiss. He had responded, though, and that did not sit well.

“So what you’re doing now is piling onto survivor’s guilt with the guilt of turning down a proposal and kissing someone in a bar.”

“I hurt him, doc.”

“Yes. And he has his own issues to work through. Telling him you’re back on medication won’t change the past.”

“That’s not… do you really think that’s what I’m doing?”

“You want to rush in and fix everything, and there is a high probability you’re thinking Hank will be there for you if you go back to not being at your strongest, the way he was when your mother was ill, and the way he was just last evening.”

“You mean…?” Chase looked away from those knowing eyes, before finally meeting them again. “Wow. I’m an ass.”

Dr. Chorney smiled, and his voice softened. “No, you’re not. You’re just a desperate man who wants to fight for the person he loves, but I must again caution you—that desperation can backfire when it has you playing games, and trying to manipulate a situation or a person.”

“So… what do I do? I don’t want to play any games, and I don’t want to manipulate anyone.”

“I don’t have the consummate answer for that, but I do have suggestions if you’re willing to hear them?”

“I do. Like I said, I need help.”

“We all do at times. So, my first suggestion is we schedule another appointment for this week, and the next. Things can change from day to day. I know you never wanted to do it before, but write down whatever crosses your mind—anything that happens, or something you want to talk about.”

“I can do that. Is that it?”

“No. Us humans, we like to think we can force the issues affecting us. We tend to try to fit those things to our schedule and let it be about what we need, but it’s been my experience that never works over the long haul. Do you understand?”

“I’m not sure. Do you mean I need lots of therapy?”

“Maybe, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m talking about Hank. The few times we talked, I’ve found him to be a deep and thoughtful man, and he was so obviously in love with you—and very protective—so I would assume he didn’t make this decision easily. I’m suggesting if you challenge him and his choices too soon, you might drive him further away. You can’t make him reconsider—his mind may be set. Let him work through his feelings about seeing you with someone else.”

“And being rejected,” Chase added, his hope dimming once more.

“From what you’ve told me, and from what I know of Hank, I don’t believe that is his issue.”

“He said he understood, but I don’t know….”

“Take him at his word. I would hazard to say it’s more of an issue for you now that the proverbial dust has settled.”

“I’m confused.”

The doctor laughed. “That’s okay too. Think about it. Didn’t you really want to say yes when he asked you to marry him?”

“Yes. Yes I did. It was the biggest mistake I’ve ever made.”

Dr. Chorney fixed him with a challenging stare. “I want you to think of one more thing. What if you had said yes, and then went about sabotaging your happiness, oblivious to the fact survivor’s guilt was impacting you. What then?”

“I… I never thought of that.”

“Well, I believe you should. We can’t cover up our fears and our deeply-rooted issues and expect our lives will work out, because they seldom do. If you’d said yes, that’s what you’d have been doing, and how much might that have hurt Hank down the road?”

The question didn’t require an answer, but it gave Chase much more to think about.

 

Walking around the home he could no longer call his, his emotions were in turmoil. Rex must still be at Stacy’s, and that disappointed him. He could have used some devoted dog love. He’d hoped Hank would be around too, but once there, he felt relief he wasn’t. Dr. Chorney’s advice had him questioning his motivations where his ex was concerned. Mostly, though, it had made him afraid of saying or doing the wrong thing out of the desperation the therapist had pointed out. The last thing he wanted was to push Hank further away.

Sitting on the couch he’d shared so often with his then boyfriend, he pictured how exhausted the man had looked that morning, and it tempered his own self-pity. This was hard for Hank too, Chase understood that, and he deserved to be put first. It was clear now he had intended to play on Hank’s sympathy by going back on medication. That would have been unfair, and something he didn’t actually want to do. He’d told the man he wouldn’t try to take advantage of him, and he wouldn’t. This time, he had to conquer his demons on his own.

Putting himself in Hank’s place, Chase would have had a hard time forgiving him if he caught him the way he’d been caught, at least at first. He would have run as far and as fast as he could, and he would have been devastated. So, there would be no game playing on his part.

It was sobering to see two boxes of his stuff in the corner of the master bedroom. He opened the first to see Hank had removed his socks, underwear, and tee shirts from the dressers. The rest of his clothing, though, still hung in the closet. Did it hurt the man to see those items mixed with his own when he opened the drawers? Did he do it when he was at his angriest?

Opening the second box, he was surprised to see his pillow taking up most of the room, covering up his odds and ends of jewelry and other items, as well as the digital camera inherited from his mother. That hurt. Sitting on the end of the bed, he looked around the room that had been their refuge during both good and bad times. Yeah, this was really happening.

A few minutes later, he mustered up the will to get on with the task, and after two trips to the car, carrying the clothes that were on hangers, he returned to the apartment for those boxes. He’d contemplated leaving his keys, but, while the furniture was pretty much all Hank’s, there was still a bunch of his stuff throughout the apartment, like the paintings of his mother’s hanging everywhere. He couldn’t bear to take them down… not now. Hank could stack them in a corner if they bothered him.

Picking up the two cartons, he left the bedroom, only to return with his pillow in hand. He stood by the bed for a few seconds, and then placed his pillow back in its old spot beside Hank’s. They, at least, belonged together. Hank could throw it out if he chose.

Okay, so maybe it was a little game playing, but he was sending a message to the man he still loved with all his heart, and it felt right. Chase made one more stop before he left. His favorite photo of the two of them hung over the desk in the spare room. He half-expected it to be taken down, but it was still there. After staring into Hank’s azure eyes and touching the glass over his life-filled smile, he took it down and placed it carefully in with his other things. Had he ever really deserved him?

Locking the apartment door, he stood frozen in front of it, and wondered. Was part of Hank relieved he no longer had to deal with a head-case like him? With eyes burning and beginning to water, he walked away.

 

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1 minute ago, BigBen said:

I'm really liking this story.  It's not at all clear which direction you are taking us, but I am happy to go along for the ride.  This chapter gave me hope that Chase and Hank are going to be okay, however things may end up between them.  As long as they both learn something and grow into themselves more, it will be a happy ending, regardless of whether the relationship survives or not.  Hank hasn't entirely frozen Chase out of his life, so he seems to be dealing healthily with his anger, neither suppressing it nor acting out.  And Chase appears to be growing up a bit (especially according to his therapist's observations), which he really needs to do.  He can't be the damaged, delicate one forever, that's just not healthy for him or for Hank.  True partnership can exist only between equals.

I'm really enjoying this story, and look forward to the next installment with bated breath! 😀

Thanks, Ben! You make so many excellent points, and I like that you are feeling some hope. From what we know at this point, you are correct to think there is an inequality between Chase and Hank. Yes, it's due to the circumstance of Chase losing his mother in a traumatic way, and needing to lean on Hank, but, as you say, true partnership can only exist between equals. That is exactly right. It would appear to have finally taken its toll, this imbalance, but maybe this loss will be good for one or both in the long run. Chase couldn't hold onto his dying relationship with his mother, and maybe he can't hold onto his dying relationship with Hank, but he can mature and grow and claim something positive.

Where Hank's head is at, we can only speculate. It would seem he's a kind man, who just can't deal with what he sees as unforgivable betrayal. Will he eventually be able to get past it? Will he shut his ex out of his life completely? Will he try to punish Chase? It's hard to know when such hurt is involved. 

I'm so glad you're enjoying this journey so far. I did not take on the subject of depression lightly, and I wanted very much to get this one right. I look forward to hearing from you again, buddy... cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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46 minutes ago, BigBen said:

Depression is a monster.  I've been fighting with it all my life, with varying degrees of success over the years.  It's why I have sympathy for Chase as well as for Hank.

"Unforgivable betrayal" is, quite frankly, a bit overdramatic, so I hope for Hank's sake that's not fundamentally where he's coming from.  Since we're seeing the story from Chase's point of view, we know that the betrayal was comparatively minor, but of course Hank doesn't know that.  I believe I mentioned in a comment on another of your stories that a marriage can survive almost anything but the loss of respect.  So if Hank has lost his respect for Chase, because of seeing him kiss someone else, that's one thing.  But to hold onto a grudge is an entirely different matter.  From his loving behavior in chapter 1, however, I don't think that Hank, however angry he may be, has lost respect for Chase.  Not yet, anyway.  But now it's on Chase to rebuild--or to regain--Hank's respect, if necessary and if possible.  Still, as I wrote before, if they both come out of this happier, healthier, and more mature than before, it will still be a happy ending, regardless.

Now, if the two of them could just sit down and talk honestly, perhaps I could give my hanky a much-needed laundering! 😄

So when are we going to see chapter 4, huh? 😁

Lol. Chapters post every Monday. :)  I've had my own encounters with depression, and you're right that it's a monster. :hug: Thankfully, I had professional help, and good friends to help me along. I think it's something you can defeat, but it's never that far away. The past couple of months have been hard for me, but I see it for what it is. 

I think Hank's thoughts and reactions are distorted. Imagine how he must have felt as Chase's protector, needed each and every day, and then this happens. To Hank, this is devastating... I can tell you we don't have all the information we need... the situation obviously has to evolve one way or another.  Respect is a tricky thing... if can be lost and it can be found. Right now I don't think Hank is feeling much respect for Chase, but possibly that is part of the distorted frame of mind. You're right that some of that falls on Chase to try to get back, if he chooses to, but what we see right now is that Hank is making that difficult. 

Sitting down and talking would be ideal, but Chase has been trying... how long will he keep trying? So many questions and no guarantees... yup... we're in it. :)  I absolutely love when readers delve into a story, so thank you for this. It gives me much encouragement than this one is worthy. Cheers, Ben... Gary.... :hug: 

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1 hour ago, dughlas said:

 

I think most if not all of us agree that Chase is making progress. He seems to have a much better understanding of his depression and with Dr Chorney's guidance is beginning to deal with it in a healthy.

It's Hank I'd like to address. Since the story is told from Chase's perspective we don't know exactly what Hank is doing. Is he too seeking therapy. If not I believe he should. There are strong undertones of codependency in this relationship. It seems Hank has been playing the role of the "rock". Supporting Chase through a long difficult period. Has he become used to that role? He was very quick to come to Chase's aid in this most recent episode when he learned of it. Yes, it seems the caring thing to do. I don't discount that but has that become his focus? Is that how he sees Chase? Has he subconsciously been encouraging Chase's  dependence? I wonder if Hank was more upset that he caught Chase "cheating" or that he caught Chase acting outside his preconceived expectations? Is Hank's steadfast refusal to hear Chase's explanation and apology a sign of an unwillingness to accept any behaviour outside his perception of who Chase is. It seems Chase's behaviour was out of character. Rather than to ask why Hank seemed very quick in his judgement and dismissal. Is he willing to be judged equally harshly if he errs? 

It should be obvious from the numerous thoughtful and well presented comments that this story has struck a strong chord with your readers. I think you done an amazing job bro.

Thanks, bro! You've made my day. :D  I am thrilled with reader response so far... as you point out, every comment is thoughtful, and invested. Can't ask for more than that. :) 

And now here's another one of those thoughtful comments. I think your read on Hank is impressive. It makes me want to contribute more, but... :X ... all in due time. For sure, Hank has been in the protector role... even Dr. Chorney comments on it. Your pickup on his quickness to fall back into that role when Chase had the fever and the fall, despite the falling out, illustrates your points beautifully. So, has his perception of himself been rocked? We know his perception of Chase has... prior to that fateful night, I doubt he saw his boyfriend as anything but stalwart... and still dependent on him. That's not a fault, rather the established dynamic, and he accepted it. I'm not sure he would encourage such dependence, but I can't discount it either. We humans do tend to become comfortable in our roles... throughout time, it has been the case.

I agree that Hank's reluctance to sit down and talk is telling of something. What makes him dig his heels in, and judge so completely. He admitted to Chase he was wrong to think Chase didn't love him... yet, he has made this decision without exploring the whys of what happened. Is it simply that he hurts? Is he too rigid in those expectations you speak of? Too soon to tell... but I will say they both share a responsibility for this ending. The bigger question is, where does each man go from here?

Brilliant comment, dugh... and thank you for the kind words and the support. :hug: 

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23 minutes ago, Danners said:

We don’t know for sure but we can presume — and that’s half the fun!

Hank’s behavior in the previous two chapters suggests he tries to detach, to rationalize, and to present a strong front upon which Chase can lean. He’s also shown it is indeed a front: he feels and cares deeply, and he’s deeply wounded. Even the good doctor observed something along these lines.

Of course all of this comes with Chase being present and/or in need.

On his own, he may struggle to process. When a guy spends so much time and energy being strong (for a loved one, say), he begins to draw his own strength from that position. He finds comfort in comforting. Coping on his own, dealing with feelings only for his own benefit, can seem dreadfully unfamiliar, y’know?

So, whereas Chase is focusing on “them” first and himself second for once, Hank finds himself in the position of needing to put himself first and “them” last. It’s an unnerving juxtaposition from what we’ve seen so far, and maybe that’s why he felt it necessary to end things flat out. And why he’s having trouble, even subconsciously, accepting that he’s . . . alone.

(Stick that in your comment box! Hehe.)

Man, you guys are blowing me away with the depth of thought you put into these characters and their actions! 'Deeply wounded' says so much more than hurt. I do believe that's what Hank is. In one short evening, he might have lost a lot of his self-worth. And yeah, Dr. Chorney points out the kind of protective man Hank is. 

You and @dughlas have a similar picture of Hank... and I think it's a good one. Finding comfort in comforting is powerful stuff, and now he can't comfort Chase... he can't comfort the man for saying no to his proposal, nor to his kissing another man, so his role has come to an end. That's quite the blow by itself, without dealing with the cheating aspect. I hear what you're saying... Hank is as lost as Chase is. That is absolutely valid. 

So is your point about the character's focus reversals. Actually, that's a brilliant observation as well. Like I said, you guys are giving me a run for my money, and I love it! 

Consider this one stuck in, buddy. ;) 

Thanks again, and cheers! G  :hug: 

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Wow! The conversation with Dr. Chorney was amazing! Great writing my friend! It reminded me of counseling I received after my wife died. I was never certain if the cunselor was just reacting to what I said, or if she had a plan. I know she really helped me clarify my feelings and put things in  perspective. I am now caught up and really getting in to this story! Thanks. 

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2 minutes ago, JeffreyL said:

Wow! The conversation with Dr. Chorney was amazing! Great writing my friend! It reminded me of counseling I received after my wife died. I was never certain if the cunselor was just reacting to what I said, or if she had a plan. I know she really helped me clarify my feelings and put things in  perspective. I am now caught up and really getting in to this story! Thanks. 

Thanks, Jeff! Glad you liked it. I had a therapist who knew all the right questions to ask... in truth, in a few visits, he changed my life. Chase needed this kind of help... this kind of clarification. I'm glad your therapist helped you as well, buddy. :hug: 

Chase isn't happy when he leaves Hank's apartment, but he had a good session with the doctor, so hopefully, he'll continue to move forward, and not back. 

Thanks for catching up and sharing your thoughts... next chapter posts on Monday. :)  

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I very much enjoyed this chapter the Dialogue with the good doctor is strong and believable.  Chase needs all the help he can get. Part of me hopes they can pull the bit and piece back together.:yes:

Great Chapter:thankyou::2thumbs:

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2 hours ago, Albert1434 said:

I very much enjoyed this chapter the Dialogue with the good doctor is strong and believable.  Chase needs all the help he can get. Part of me hopes they can pull the bit and piece back together.:yes:

Great Chapter:thankyou::2thumbs:

Thanks, Albert! The scene with the doctor was very important... for Chase and for us readers. Glad you liked it. :) This was a huge step forward, although it might be tough for Chase to stay positive. At least now he has some much needed clarity. But, then he gets hit with the reality of moving his stuff out of the apartment. :( 

I understand the hope, buddy. Endings are sad, particularly in this case, where real love is involved. As always, I appreciate hearing your thoughts and am thankful for your support... Cheers... Gary.... :hug: 

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I'm glad to see that Chase went to his appointment, and has begun to take the first steps in putting his soul back together.  Some harsh truths were faced, and he has the beginnings of a map to his future.
Like Chase, we can hope for some sort of reconciliation; putting the pillow back, and taking the picture of them together provide a symbol of that hope for each of them.  Hope is the one thing we can cling to until Life's end, thanks to Pandora closing the lid on her infamous box.

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11 hours ago, ColumbusGuy said:

I'm glad to see that Chase went to his appointment, and has begun to take the first steps in putting his soul back together.  Some harsh truths were faced, and he has the beginnings of a map to his future.
Like Chase, we can hope for some sort of reconciliation; putting the pillow back, and taking the picture of them together provide a symbol of that hope for each of them.  Hope is the one thing we can cling to until Life's end, thanks to Pandora closing the lid on her infamous box.

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That is so true, buddy, and Chase, despite the finality, still clings to hope. How long can he do that for before he is forced to turn away? For now, what's most important is dealing with his own issues, and Dr. Chorney would appear to be the perfect sounding board and guider. Depression is a hard thing to defeat. It's been my experience you only win the small battles, and there is no guarantee you'll win the next one, so you really have to stay vigilant. Chase needs to find the strength to do that. It's not a quick process, and hope can be a good thing... but if it keeps getting stepped on... well that's a different story. At least now, as you point out, he has a clearer picture of why he did what he did, and that's a crucial step. 

Thank you for your thoughts and your support, dear friend... cheers... G-man. :hug:  :heart: 

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Hope is a wonderful antithesis to depression, which itself breeds hopelessness. I, for one, hope Chase’s is encouraged by Dr. Chorney, who can help him differentiate between and define what that means.

Getting a handle on his depression; coming to terms with his mom’s death; fixing things with Hank. These are all great things to hope for, and Dr. Chorney can help Chase understand they aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Hope is wonderful to have — there’s always, always room for hope — but alone it isn’t enough because, like you said, it can be trampled on. Chase needs goals to strive for and coping strategies, and it sounds like he’s already in possession of some good ones courtesy of the good doctor.

I’m glad Dr. Chorney asked Chase if he thought he needed to be medicated again. It spoke of the man’s willingness to listen and offer options instead of the judgement Chase was receiving from everyone else in his life. (Not even touching the medication debate but, as someone for whom it’s necessary, I understand why it was more of a hinderance for Chase.)

We all DO need a Dr. Chorney, whether board certified or across the kitchen counter. Congratulations on another amazing character, Gary. Sorry it took so long to mention it!

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37 minutes ago, Danners said:

Hope is a wonderful antithesis to depression, which itself breeds hopelessness. I, for one, hope Chase’s is encouraged by Dr. Chorney, who can help him differentiate between and define what that means.

Getting a handle on his depression; coming to terms with his mom’s death; fixing things with Hank. These are all great things to hope for, and Dr. Chorney can help Chase understand they aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Hope is wonderful to have — there’s always, always room for hope — but alone it isn’t enough because, like you said, it can be trampled on. Chase needs goals to strive for and coping strategies, and it sounds like he’s already in possession of some good ones courtesy of the good doctor.

I’m glad Dr. Chorney asked Chase if he thought he needed to be medicated again. It spoke of the man’s willingness to listen and offer options instead of the judgement Chase was receiving from everyone else in his life. (Not even touching the medication debate but, as someone for whom it’s necessary, I understand why it was more of a hinderance for Chase.)

We all DO need a Dr. Chorney, whether board certified or across the kitchen counter. Congratulations on another amazing character, Gary. Sorry it took so long to mention it!

Hey, Dan! I do think Chase was encouraged by his session with Dr. Chorney... absolutely... but the thing about depression is the swings back and forth. He has a lot of work to do, in order to accomplish what you point out, but if he strings enough of the little victories together, he'll stand a better chance of them sticking. I hope that makes sense... I've had a physically draining day. :) 

I agree about holding onto hope. I always managed to, no matter how deep the darkness, but it's hard. 

I'm pleased you brought up the coping strategies Chase has learned for the doctor. There are important, not just for the help they give, but for the trust it has built between them. Chase, so far, is managing his anxiety... he might not think he's doing so well, but we can see it... and so did the doctor. I have no doubt he would give Chase medication, but what he's seeing doesn't warrant it... at least not yet, and that speaks volumes about the man. I'm so pleased you find him an amazing character... there is some of me in him. :P  

Seriously, though... another thoughtful and welcome comment for a smart man... cheers, buddy! :hug: 

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12 minutes ago, Headstall said:

Hey, Dan! I do think Chase was encouraged by his session with Dr. Chorney... absolutely... but the thing about depression is the swings back and forth. He has a lot of work to do, in order to accomplish what you point out, but if he strings enough of the little victories together, he'll stand a better chance of them sticking. I hope that makes sense... I've had a physically draining day. :) 

You made perfect sense. With depression there’s a give and take to keep in mind, making the small victories especially important. The trick is to remember that you may backslide but you will move forward.

How’s the shoulder holding up?

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2 hours ago, Danners said:

You made perfect sense. With depression there’s a give and take to keep in mind, making the small victories especially important. The trick is to remember that you may backslide but you will move forward.

How’s the shoulder holding up?

Exactly. You have to realize depression is present, and things will get better, no matter how bad things might seem. :yes:  My shoulder isn't doing as well as I'd hoped, but I knew that might be the case going in. I can type okay again... that's an important victory, and I have strength in it... just not a lot. I'm still hoping it will come. Thanks for asking. :hug:  

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Chase had some tough things to face in this chapter, but he also got a lot of help from his therapist, which was good to see. The advice about not chasing Hank who has his own issues, was particularly important. 

Sorry to hear about the shoulder, buddy. Hope it improves :hug: 

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2 hours ago, Timothy M. said:

Chase had some tough things to face in this chapter, but he also got a lot of help from his therapist, which was good to see. The advice about not chasing Hank who has his own issues, was particularly important. 

Sorry to hear about the shoulder, buddy. Hope it improves :hug: 

I believe it helped that Chase already knew Dr. Chorney. They were able to get right to the heart of the matter, and because he already trusted him, Chase listened. I agree that advice about not trying to push Hank was incredibly important, for a number of reasons. :)  

I haven't given up hope that my shoulder will improve still. It is what it is, and I knew what the chances were. Thanks for commenting, Tim. I appreciate hearing your thoughts, as always. :hug:  

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When you have sadness in your life, you have to find the root of it and deal with it. Chase may be on his way to dealing with some of that. I like Dr. Chorney. Good listeners make good advisers. Now we have to see if Chase has heard enough from his own innards to start acting on it in a more positive fashion.

Very good chapter, Gary. I won't even make the obvious joke about pillow talk. :)

 

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Finally Chase has started to open up about losing his mother it’s disappointing that it has taken so long to do this, but it’s better late than never, he needs to talk to Hank and tell him what he said to the doc, taking medication is not always the answer to depression facing it head on and talking about it is a good start to recovery. This is the problem society has caused they expect men to be tough and not show our feelings, Chase has been a typical male and not dealt with it and just filed it away until it’s got to much for him and he has not been able to cope or to know how to cope. We need to get over the stigma of not taking about mental health issues that particularly affect the men in our lives and community and let them know that it’s ok to cry and it’s ok to seek help, as it’s a better alternative to hitting the bottle or committing suicide. Governments all over the world and religion have a lot to answer for when it comes to ignoring mental health issues.

To much hatred and hurtful comments come so called Christians as they are always judging people according to their interpretation of their book of fairytales. 
So many people should be ashamed of how we let down people that have mental health issues, seeking help should be an easy thing to do and it should be at a reasonable cost to people and we need more funding for mental health and hospitals as putting people into jail or letting them become homeless is not the answer. 

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10 hours ago, Geron Kees said:

When you have sadness in your life, you have to find the root of it and deal with it. Chase may be on his way to dealing with some of that. I like Dr. Chorney. Good listeners make good advisers. Now we have to see if Chase has heard enough from his own innards to start acting on it in a more positive fashion.

Very good chapter, Gary. I won't even make the obvious joke about pillow talk. :)

 

Who knew pillows can send messages? :P  

Knowledge, as is said, is power. Dr. Chorney has just provided Chase with some. The roots have broken the surface, and now we'll see what this new found clarity will mean for Chase. I'm glad you like Dr. Chorney. There is an existing trust between him and Chase, and I think that showed here in how Chase listened to him. You're right that good listeners make good advisers... Dr. Chorney did his job. 

Thanks for your support, my friend... cheers... G :hug: 

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6 hours ago, Bft said:

Finally Chase has started to open up about losing his mother it’s disappointing that it has taken so long to do this, but it’s better late than never, he needs to talk to Hank and tell him what he said to the doc, taking medication is not always the answer to depression facing it head on and talking about it is a good start to recovery. This is the problem society has caused they expect men to be tough and not show our feelings, Chase has been a typical male and not dealt with it and just filed it away until it’s got to much for him and he has not been able to cope or to know how to cope. We need to get over the stigma of not taking about mental health issues that particularly affect the men in our lives and community and let them know that it’s ok to cry and it’s ok to seek help, as it’s a better alternative to hitting the bottle or committing suicide. Governments all over the world and religion have a lot to answer for when it comes to ignoring mental health issues.

To much hatred and hurtful comments come so called Christians as they are always judging people according to their interpretation of their book of fairytales. 
So many people should be ashamed of how we let down people that have mental health issues, seeking help should be an easy thing to do and it should be at a reasonable cost to people and we need more funding for mental health and hospitals as putting people into jail or letting them become homeless is not the answer. 

There is no right length for the grieving process, but once there is a trigger, the healing process can begin. I don't know if trying to talk to Hank at this point will work. Dr. Chorney recommends leaving him alone to get used to the idea of having seen Chase with someone else. You are so right that men are expected to be stoic, but in this case, it's more than that. Chase had had trouble opening up because of pain, but, as you say, it's an easy thing to do when men are raised to say they are fine when they're not. Dr. Chorney makes a great point when he says covering up issues never works.  

Depression can rule us completely, and cloud reality so well, we are unaware. You're also right that people with mental health issues suffer a stigma even today. Religion does have a lot to answer for, with its judgments and persecutions. It wasn't that long ago that being gay was considered a mental illness... and a sin. I totally agree that stigma has to end, and more funding, as well as understanding, are needed.

Thanks for the great comment, Bft. I love the reactions this story has gotten so far. Cheers, buddy... :hug:  

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