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C S R Discussion Day: The Window Washer By Zenith


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This month we're featuring Zenith's story, The Window Washer. Did you have a chance to read it? Hard to believe the discussion day is already here, but it is. Check out my questions to Zenith, where I pump him for vital information like his clothing habits, and he reveals his favorite places to plot! :o

 

Have you ever gone out in public, realized your shirt is on backwards, and just don’t care?
Not backwards, but inside out. Unfortunately I cared. I was embarrassed. I like things to be ‘perfect.’ Publishing a spelling mistake in a story is like discovering my shirt is on backwards; it really bothers me. Although, I should learn to forgive (or get over) myself—it’s darn hard to write and edit your work, especially if you’re in a hurry to get a chapter published.

 

What's your favorite room in your house? Do you plot or write there?
Living room, for sure. I love to flop on the couch and read, although I wouldn’t describe myself as a couch potato, it’s just my favorite posture for reading.
I do a lot of my plot development in bed. Either before going to sleep or first thing, early in the morning.
The physical writing usually takes place while sitting at the dining table using my laptop. I like an uncluttered workspace. The only other thing I have there is my iPhone which I use as a dictionary/thesaurus.

 

What brought you to GA?
I was looking for good quality gay fiction. I’m a real fan or gay romance whether it’s contemporary, science fiction or fantasy. GA has tons of high quality stories that appeal to me. It’s a well run site, so thanks for that!

 

What do you like to do when you’re not writing?
I like traveling. If I could afford to, I’d do a lot of it. Unfortunately, with my budget, my go-to pastime is reading. I often read several books a week. I rarely watch TV, for some reason it agitates me.

 

Where do you get your ideas?
From all over. Often it’s a wannabe fantasy. Jerome connecting with Rob, the hunky window washer, was straight out of a personal fantasy. I used to love it when the window washers would swing by in real life. Sometimes I’m inspired by things I read—not to copy them, but to stretch my writing. What I find as I read best-selling authors is that they create almost impossible coincidences, which readers overlook because they’re absorbed in the plot. Readers will call you on factual mistakes, but rarely do they say ‘that’s too much of a coincidence.’

 

What’s the best part of being an author?
Writing relaxes me and helps me process my emotions. I truly do write from the heart. My stories have HEE endings because that’s what I’d like in my life. Although ‘real life’ is often full of surprises and disappointments (as well as many, many good things, of course). And writing is a creative outlet, much the way painting might be to someone who has that talent. It’s fun and good for me at the same time.

 

Did you decide on the window washer job before or after you got the idea for the accident scene?
As I said above, the story was inspired by real window washers occasionally coming by my office window. My first ‘inspiration’ was to write a dark little piece about a window washer and an accountant who ‘connect’ then the window washer falls to his death. Now aren’t you glad I abandoned that ending?

 

Do you have a favorite character in The Window Washer? Why or why not?
No, I don’t have a favorite. I love them all equally. The nice thing about writing is that you can imbue your characters with traits you like. There were no villains in this story, so pretty much everyone is likeable.

 

Your story has a lot of things in it like the careers of the characters, settings in different cities, etc... Is that all research based or did you use things from your own life for inspiration?
Ah, good question. Pretty much 100% from my own life. I, like Jerome, was a bored accountant—only he was much better looking and got rich. My daughter is a flight attendant, which would really have been my dream job, so I know a lot about employee flying.

 

The building where Jerome works is in Vancouver. In fact, it’s 900 West Georgia, where I used to work. I worked on the 9th floor, but I figure Rob would survive a 5 story fall a little easier. There’s really a glass canopy above the sidewalk and a coffee shop inside, just like I describe.

 

Jerome’s condo is in Coal Harbour, Vancouver and there is a seawall and yacht sales place there too. (Although I don’t live in Coal Harbour.)

 

I’ve only visited Santa Barbara once, but fell in love with it. I used Google Earth to locate the spot for Rob’s parents’ fictional home. (And, BTW, who wouldn’t fantasize about owning a Porsche convertible?)
I’ve visited Venice Beach many times and always enjoy its bohemian vibe. It’s one of my fantasy ‘to live there’ places.

 

Sailing: well, growing up on the West Coast of Canada I’ve done my fair share of sailing. I enjoy it, although it’s not really my thing. But it was a great way for Jerome to escape his troubles.

 

One of my readers helped me with the finer details of the surrogacy process.

 

The internet is used to fill in many blanks. And I wouldn’t survive a minute without my dictionary and thesaurus.

 

Can you share a little of your current work or future projects with us?
Well, there’s ‘Special Forces’ which is done. I’m working on two other stories and have one more in my head. The first story is about a guy whose b/f is framed for drug trafficking. The second one is about an otherwise colorless guy whose life changes when gets transferred to Honolulu. Both those are in process. The one in my head is about a kid whose life is ruined when he gets caught sneaking into the neighbor’s swimming pool….

 

One of my favorite themes is people who aren’t necessarily what they appear to be. Like Rob not being just a window washer. I try to use that ‘trick’ whenever I can. And I love recycling my characters. Giving them cameos in the next story.

 

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Thanks for giving me an opportunity to answer these fun questions!

 


All right, people, you know what to do! Have fun, share your thoughts on the story, or ask Zenith more questions!

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Great interview!  I really enjoyed this story and look forward to what you post next.  In response to readers ignoring things that are 'too much of a coincidence'...it makes me think of the saying "truth is stranger than fiction".  Sometimes things happen that are so bizarre they defy imagination.  Like my brother moving from Western New York to Colorado and ending up on the same hockey team as a childhood friend from the midwest who spent summers with his grandma who lived next door to us. Hmm...that would make a good prompt story!  lol  ;)  

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Notice that police or detective characters alway talk about there being no coincidences. But how does the character always find himself at a muder scene, multiple times?

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Loved the story and the interview.

 

Hmm, for someone who has no editor there are only a few 'typos' left in your stories.  So you did quite well I think. ;).

 

Thanks for this story and the other stories you posted recently. Read them all after The Window Washer. :thankyou:

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I enjoyed this story very much. I loved the sparks flying through the window glass and then the poor guy falls 5 floors ... oh no!!

 

Strange things happen in the world everyday. I am quite willing to suspend my disbelief of things, I watch or read, because I am looking for entertainment.

 

I think my only 'thing' about this story was the often used, misunderstanding and the door-slamming walkout, I-never-want-to-see-you-again, thing.  As I write this I am wondering if I'm guilty of the same ... but it's used so often, to me, it fails to create tension. 

 

All in all I did enjoy this piece very much.

 

tim

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There's a certain formula in a love story. Boy meets boy. Boy loses boy. Boy gets boy back. I thought a lot about what could cause a breakup but not be so catastrophic that they couldn't overcome it.

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Terrific interview! I haven't read this story, but I've read much of "Special Forces" so I know the quality of your work, Zenith. "Window Washer" is definitely now on my 'to read' list. Cheers... Gary.

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There's a certain formula in a love story. Boy meets boy. Boy loses boy. Boy gets boy back. I thought a lot about what could cause a breakup but not be so catastrophic that they couldn't overcome it.

I understand that - the formula - is there a different way to handle the need for crisis/tension though? Something I'll think about next time I'm in that place.  I guess I just feel with all the differences you brought to this story, using that same usual thing just stood out to me. Don't get me wrong, I think it was well written and believable, it certainly didn't stop me reading or enjoying the rest.

 

That said, I really liked the fact that Rob insisted that Jerome still have his own hobby.. the sailing. That was unexpected but I liked it.  

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Thanks Gary. I really enjoy your stories too. Any motte like COTT coming our way soon?

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Tim

I agree with your take on the formula. WW was really my first real story, and I was flying by the seat of my pants. I'd like to do a story where the characters have a tension to overcome--like they hate each other and have to overcome a lot of misunderstandings to finally realize they're in love. But I think I'd have to stretch a bit as a person to do that. We'll see :)

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Thanks Gary. I really enjoy your stories too. Any motte like COTT coming our way soon?

I'm returning to COTT as soon as I finish up Morningstar... I'm writing chapter 30 now... so hopefully not too long. Thanks for asking :) .

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I loved the story very much. Its full of shade, one man can have in their life. I liked the characters and enjoyed the story a lot. And the sad part, you know I am human too... :)

 

 

 

 

I am surprised to hear the places and some situations are inspired by his personal experiences. Wow, that was just awesome to here. I loved every aspect of the story. And its glad to know more about the author in personal(interview)... :D

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Oh Emi

I'm glad you were moved by the story. This blog has been a nice forum to let you all know how wrapped up in it I was. The story is pure fiction, but there's a lot of me in there. I've definitely got Jerome's temper!

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Regarding coincidences, the advice I read sometime ago was that coincidences that harm the protagonsist(s) can be used freely, but coincidences that help them should be rare. Readers will moan about bad luck without being dragged out of a story, but too much good luck doesn't feel natural (unless you're writing about a character with the superpower of 'luck', of course).

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There's a certain formula in a love story. Boy meets boy. Boy loses boy. Boy gets boy back. I thought a lot about what could cause a breakup but not be so catastrophic that they couldn't overcome it.

 

 

I understand that - the formula - is there a different way to handle the need for crisis/tension though? Something I'll think about next time I'm in that place.  I guess I just feel with all the differences you brought to this story, using that same usual thing just stood out to me. Don't get me wrong, I think it was well written and believable, it certainly didn't stop me reading or enjoying the rest.

 

That said, I really liked the fact that Rob insisted that Jerome still have his own hobby.. the sailing. That was unexpected but I liked it.  

 

Love is  a battlefield. When you start you have to learn so much about each other and about handling differences.

And the break up is usually because the partners have not yet found a way to handle those or handle a fight.

Long term relationships can only be long term if both can handle differences, misunderstandings, kept secrets, (small) lies, and fights.

And... whatever you can think about.

 

So the concept 'boy/girl meets boy, boy/girl looses boy' It is happening in real life as well.  It runs in my family !

My sister, her two kids and I.

Not all with misunderstanding and slamming doors. But all with broken hearths.

Love is a battlefield.

But all of us are married since many years with the lost partner.

The break up, we all know we never want to go back there again ! It hurts. It hurts too much.

But love also is not a won war. You have to work both to stay on the good side.

 

Mikiesboy. For stories as a writer yes you have to be creative like start with a falling Window Washer. Also in fights... reasonal thoughts are often not there. Most people turn completely blind. Are completely blinded with rage. The accusations like  'you always' and 'you never' and say things and feel things and see things completely one way.

And feel like a fool afterwards. Remember part of the harsh words. Do'nt see the whole picture.

 

Love is a battlefield. It can be the best. If not .. It hurts.

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Love is a battlefield. It can be the best. If not .. It hurts.

 

I'll agree to some extent. I'm sorry to hear of the issues between you, your nieces/nephews and your sister. Family is important. 

 

My point is that in fiction, most that I have read anyway, is the formula is the same ... I am just wondering if there is another way to create that much needed tension in another way. 

 

The Window Washer is a great piece. It was done so well, that the sameness of that particular part was really noticeable to me.  It's not bad, it just made me think and I thought it would be good to discuss here.

 

Personally, to me, love is not a battlefield. I had enough pain when I was a child. I don't bring that way of handling things to my life with my husband. Neither does he.. we talk about much, and often to make sure we don't get to that place. It's not easy sometimes and there has been pain and hurt, but anger doesnt solve a thing.

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I don't believe love is a battlefield. If you find yourself standing in that field, you probably need to get out of there ASAP. Not to break up necessarily, since a relationship can take time and effort, but you should reach an armistice pretty soon.

 

 

Love lifts you up, makes you strong and lets you face anything life throws at you. I don't mean it's easy or problemfree, but if the bad side starts to outweigh the good, it's time to reconsider the relationship.

 

 

As for WW, I think it's a truly sweet story of two people overcoming their own issues to be able to face each other as honest people. I think they both had a bit to go as the story ended, but who hasn't? We're all a work in progress.

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I'll agree to some extent. I'm sorry to hear of the issues between you, your nieces/nephews and your sister. Family is important. 

 

My point is that in fiction, most that I have read anyway, is the formula is the same ... I am just wondering if there is another way to create that much needed tension in another way. 

 

The Window Washer is a great piece. It was done so well, that the sameness of that particular part was really noticeable to me.  It's not bad, it just made me think and I thought it would be good to discuss here.

 

Personally, to me, love is not a battlefield. I had enough pain when I was a child. I don't bring that way of handling things to my life with my husband. Neither does he.. we talk about much, and often to make sure we don't get to that place. It's not easy sometimes and there has been pain and hurt, but anger doesnt solve a thing.

 

OMG no You must have misunderstood me. Or my English is... not straight enough, LOL.

There is no family issue here. I meant to say we all had this boy/girl meets boy and lost boy issue.

We have no family issue !  But we all know and can talk about this lost love and found love again in good terms and laughs.

 

And the battlefield is not that we fight but we know how to keep the truce/peace working good for both of us.

We love each other deeply. And we know the hurt when we lost each other during an earlier break up. As does my sister with her guy and her kids with their guys. Again the boy/girl meets boy and looses him and finds him again runs in my family.

AndyG

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Thanks Puppilull

I really just set out to write a gay romance with a happy ending. I think gay people don't get enough happy endings in literature. I read straight romances sometimes and I thought, 'why can't gay people read about themselves in a positive light?'

I was told I captured the obsession of new love (like when Jerome bought the parking space for Rob's car hoping it would bring Rob closer). I thought that was an astute observation on the part of that reader.

But overall it was just a fun piece with me trying to fill a niche.

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Personally, to me, love is not a battlefield. I had enough pain when I was a child. I don't bring that way of handling things to my life with my husband. Neither does he.. we talk about much, and often to make sure we don't get to that place. It's not easy sometimes and there has been pain and hurt, but anger doesnt solve a thing.

 

Mikiesboy, unfortunately you knew pain when you were a child. That was not what I wanted to say.

My use of 'battlefield' was not about using violence. Love is (often/sometimes) a struggle. Not the love it self but how to grow further.

Both partners need to work out how to function together. That proces can be a battlefield. Not because of physical hurts but stupid wrong words or wrong body language (like cats and dogs)  it can lead to fights.

And the hurt is like you left a medieval battlefield. It hurts everywhere.

The hurt is mentally but feels physical as well.

 

I and my partner we are together since over 25 years. We have found our way to prevent real battles. Like you do with your partner to prevent or to make sure you don´t go there.

We started talking about fights early before we had any ! We agreed that anyone of us using the words ´always´ and ´never´ in a fight had lost the fight ! Until today it works ! We both start laughing when one of us uses that in an argument.

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OMG no You must have misunderstood me. Or my English is... not straight enough, LOL.

There is no family issue here. I meant to say we all had this boy/girl meets boy and lost boy issue.

We have no family issue !  But we all know and can talk about this lost love and found love again in good terms and laughs.

 

And the battlefield is not that we fight but we know how to keep the truce/peace working good for both of us.

We love each other deeply. And we know the hurt when we lost each other during an earlier break up. As does my sister with her guy and her kids with their guys. Again the boy/girl meets boy and looses him and finds him again runs in my family.

AndyG

:heart: blah no likes!!  Oh... i am glad I misunderstood.. its a relief. It wonderful to know, thank you for letting me know!!  Proof that talking works!

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I don't believe love is a battlefield. If you find yourself standing in that field, you probably need to get out of there ASAP. Not to break up necessarily, since a relationship can take time and effort, but you should reach an armistice pretty soon.

 

 

Love lifts you up, makes you strong and lets you face anything life throws at you. I don't mean it's easy or problemfree, but if the bad side starts to outweigh the good, it's time to reconsider the relationship.

 

 

As for WW, I think it's a truly sweet story of two people overcoming their own issues to be able to face each other as honest people. I think they both had a bit to go as the story ended, but who hasn't? We're all a work in progress.

 

My use of 'battlefield' was not about using violence.

Love is (often/sometimes) a struggle. Not the love it self but how to grow further.

Both partners need to work out how to function together. That proces can be a battlefield. Not because of physical hurts but stupid wrong words or wrong body language (like cats and dogs)  it can lead to stupid fights. Just because of a few misinterpretid,not well chosen words.

 

That is the battle field. The stupid fights because you do not  yet know all about your partner. Still have to understand your partner.

 

I was there done this felt that... the hurt is like you left a medieval battlefield. It hurts everywhere.

I do not know if everyone has to go through that proces. Again that is my interpretation of ´love is a battlefield`.

I did, we did and

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I love all you guys-and girls-thanks for hanging out with me today

It's great to get to talk to you.. thanks for your time and great comments!!

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