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Drama for Authors & Volunteers!


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Heads up, Authors! We're still working on creating a great new sub-system for genres for authors, and during Myr's recent mine for data, one thing we noticed was that "Drama" is being used for many stories with no other genres on a TON of stories. Drama is going away with the new sub-genre system, and we want everyone to have a heads up that those stories will need to be moved to the correct new genre or sub-genre. Is your story primarily a romance? Comedy? One of the sub-genres we're coming out with like Historical Thriller, Tech Noir? Keep an eye out for more to come soon so you will be ready to move your story!

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Readers, do you love to find hidden gems to read and want to help others find stories to enjoy on GA? Are you a whiz at looking up stories for tags? Good at summing up stories in a few sentences? We're looking for volunteers to help assess the meta data on stories for genres, tags, and even the descriptions for inactive or deceased authors. We'll need helpers to find stories missing the data, and readers willing to help add the correct info for stories as much as possible. Let us know if you're interested! We'll be creating a space for this so you can comment here or send me or Myr a PM via our profiles. 

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6 minutes ago, Carlos Hazday said:

Hope there's help tagging stories. I have no idea what most of mine would fall under other than DRAMA.

Same.  I have some I can recategorize, but for others I have no idea.

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2 hours ago, Carlos Hazday said:

Hope there's help tagging stories. I have no idea what most of mine would fall under other than DRAMA.

I agree. Most of my stories are about self-discovery, friendship, or other topics which aren't easily fitted within genres. As my readers know, they're almost always that European phenomenon 'a slice of life'. I appreciate the desire to give readers stories which more accurately fit their parameters. Who hasn't had the experience of reading something and wondering how on Earth it got categorised as whatever? But there are stories which cannot be squeezed into genres. What is going to happen to them? If you're rejecting Drama, is there going to be any other general category? I would hate the idea that most of my stories will end up un- (or mis-) categorised because the possibility of a general category has been taken away. 

PS When this subject first came up, I did advocate for the retention of Drama. 

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26 minutes ago, northie said:

I agree. Most of my stories are about self-discovery, friendship, or other topics which aren't easily fitted within genres. As my readers know, they're almost always that European phenomenon 'a slice of life'. I appreciate the desire to give readers stories which more accurately fit their parameters. Who hasn't had the experience of reading something and wondering how on Earth it got categorised as whatever? But there are stories which cannot be squeezed into genres. What is going to happen to them? If you're rejecting Drama, is there going to be any other general category? I would hate the idea that most of my stories will end up un- (or mis-) categorised because the possibility of a general category has been taken away. 

PS When this subject first came up, I did advocate for the retention of Drama. 

Aside from my were-creature silliness which would be fantasy, I'm stumped. I sure as heck don't write romances and that's what most others post. I know you and I stand outside the lines on that one. How do you categorize some 25 stories all following one character's life starting at 15 and progressing through middle age?

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When I first read about the coming changes to tags, I was reminded of a story I read in Fantasy & ScienceFiction magazine. I have gone back through many, many years of issues but I have been unable to find the exact reference I was looking for. The gist of the story, though, was that an author who was getting no real-estate for her writing was offered a job as an editor for a "Best of" anthology. Why? Because she wasn't writing for a sub-sub-genre system where every story had its own niche; her writing, while excellent, was too general. So instead of say, being listed as Drama, a story had to be Drama/Slash/Slash/Something-Or-Other to gather a following. And it didn't matter if a story was the best of the best in its genre, it had to land in the favorite, current sub-sub-genre of the time to be included in any anthology titled "Best of". The story was beautifully written, and I was stunned by it; is this what story writing will become I thought? It also ties in nicely with this sub-tagging that GA appears to be swinging into. Does GA really mean to micro-categorize stories in such a way that readers never have to exposed beyond their niche, a niche that grows ever smaller, never to discover unfamiliar writing?!

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There are EXTENSIVE lists of genres and cross-genres coming, guys, and we're not doing away with tags wholesale either. Remember, we're looking to help authors and readers connect over the types of stories one likes to write and the other likes to read--but that means being able to find them! 

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47 minutes ago, Ron said:

Does GA really mean to micro-categorize stories in such a way that readers never have to exposed beyond their niche, a niche that grows ever smaller, never to discover unfamiliar writing?!

Drama much?  We are adding additional capabilities to the system to allow for better categorizing of stories for those that seek to read and write specific types of genre stories.  The system does not work, nor will it be changed to work, to hide stories from people. 

If you are general fiction writer and reader, good for you.  There are people that like very specific story types and we're adding more function to the system to help the readers that want those stories and the writers that want to write them meet up with each other.  It doesn't harm you in any way.

5 hours ago, Carlos Hazday said:

How do you categorize some 25 stories all following one character's life starting at 15 and progressing through middle age?

We're still working on the full list of genres, but we'll make sure general fiction has a place.

8 hours ago, Carlos Hazday said:

Hope there's help tagging stories. I have no idea what most of mine would fall under other than DRAMA.

We have a list with full descriptions that we are working on.  And the other part of this topic is a request for assistance from readers to help us with updating story meta data. 

We'll be going into a great deal more detail in a blog post when we have the system up and running on our test server and I can get pictures.

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As a reader, I see great possibilities with this.  However, I do hope that the sub-categories don't get so specific that we end up with a category for "gay right-handed one-armed wallpaper hangers with one left arm."

I don't know what categories have been tentatively planned at this point.  I hope such categories as Adventure, Romantic, Erotic, Mystery, Horror, High School, College, and even Twenties, Thirties, Forties, etc., or Recent Past, Near Future, Present, Time Travel, Alternate Earth, Alternate History, Alternate Universe, Historical, Ancient, Light Humor, Humor, Serious, 1930s, 1960s, 1990s, 2000 or 2K, Werewolf, Were-creatures, Shapeshifters, Space Travel, Science Fiction, Fantasy, Furry,  and Other are considered.

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6 minutes ago, ReaderPaul said:

I hope such categories as Adventure, Romantic, Erotic, Mystery, Horror, High School, College, and even Twenties, Thirties, Forties, etc., or Recent Past, Near Future, Present, Time Travel, Alternate Earth, Alternate History, Alternate Universe, Historical, Ancient, Light Humor, Humor, Serious, 1930s, 1960s, 1990s, 2000 or 2K, Werewolf, Were-creatures, Shapeshifters, Space Travel, Science Fiction, Fantasy, Furry,  and Other are considered.

You have quite the hodgepodge in there mixing genres, sub-genres and tags.  "Categories" are used to describe something else int he story system and shouldn't be used in this discussion to avoid confusion.  To be clear on terms here, we are going to have Primary Genres such as Fantasy, Science Fiction, Historical, and Romance. As well as Sub-Genres such as Werewolf, Shifters, Military Sci-Fi, Alternate History, Epic Fantasy, Space Opera, Tech Noir, and many others.

We will post details in the next few weeks.

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I'm looking forward to use the new sub-genre system. I was at a loss what to choose with my new anthology story. My stories are totally drama-free. :gikkle:

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10 hours ago, Myr said:

We're still working on the full list of genres, but we'll make sure general fiction has a place.

For me, that's all I need to hear.  As I said before, I do appreciate the desire to attract the 'right' readers to our stories and for them to find what they want. Otherwise, they might end up going off somewhere else. 

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11 hours ago, Myr said:

We're still working on the full list of genres, but we'll make sure general fiction has a place.

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