Christmas what make me like it in the end.

[scotty94]

I'm not a big fan of Christmas, but me and my twelve year old brother Jordan always have a tradition we always watch the snowman and when the song comes on we always sing along these memories are what make me enjoy Christmas, I don't know if the Americans know the song but I dont know that anyone from the UK must know it

 

here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31mjvrydaLM

 

[Thorn Wilde]

I love that song. The Snowman was brought to my attention when I was in my teens because I was a really huge fan of Nightwish, and they did a cover of Walking in the Air, on their album Oceanborn. Very pretty version:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okItHetxgy8

 

I taught myself to play it on piano some years ago... Wonder if I can still do it, I haven't tried in years.

[Bill W]

I was thinking you meant Frosty the Snowman, so I was quite surprised when I watch the video.  You must have awfully tight underwear on, if you can sing as high as the lady in the vid.  lol 

[Sasha Distan]

I love that song. The Snowman was brought to my attention when I was in my teens because I was a really huge fan of Nightwish, and they did a cover of Walking in the Air, on their album Oceanborn. Very pretty version:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okItHetxgy8

 

I taught myself to play it on piano some years ago... Wonder if I can still do it, I haven't tried in years.

 

if you can, i demand that you play it for me when i get there

[scotty94]

I was thinking you meant Frosty the Snowman, so I was quite surprised when I watch the video.  You must have awfully tight underwear on, if you can sing as high as the lady in the vid.  lol 

 it is actually a young lad that sing the song. but I'm not surprised you thought it was a lady.

Edited December 26, 2013 by scotty94

[Thorn Wilde]

I was thinking you meant Frosty the Snowman, so I was quite surprised when I watch the video.  You must have awfully tight underwear on, if you can sing as high as the lady in the vid.  lol 

 

No lady sounds like that. That particular kind of vocal quality is only ever found in boy sopranos and eunuchs.

 

if you can, i demand that you play it for me when i get there

 

Problem is, we may have to move the piano to my old room at my parents' house in order to fit you guys.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Thorn Wilde

[scotty94]

Bill W, on 26 Dec 2013 - 6:24 PM, said:

I was thinking you meant Frosty the Snowman, so I was quite surprised when I watch the video.  You must have awfully tight underwear on, if you can sing as high as the lady in the vid.  lol 

 

No lady sounds like that. That particular kind of vocal quality is only ever found in boy sopranos and eunuchs. 

 

 

the last time I could sing that high was when I was thirteen, when I tried to sing it for my school Christmas concert when I was fourteen I couldn't even start the song let alone make it sound even remotely like the original.

Edited December 26, 2013 by scotty94

[Red_A]

I was thinking you meant Frosty the Snowman, so I was quite surprised when I watch the video.  You must have awfully tight underwear on, if you can sing as high as the lady in the vid.  lol 

 The song Walking in the Air by Howard Blake was intended for a boy soprano.  And was originally sung in the filn by Peter Auty, a boy choristor at St Paul's Catheral.  It was later recording by Aled Jones, another boy soprano. The female voice [as conventional used] is not quite right and the song has to be slightly altered to fit.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Red_A

[Thorn Wilde]

The female voice [as conventional used] is not quite right and the song has to be slightly altered to fit.

 

Not quite sure I understand what you mean here. Altered how? A woman would use a different technique, yes (with many, many different techniques to choose from) but she can easily sing the same melody in the same key.

[Suvitar]

I´ve never watched the Snowman but I know the song, it´s a beautiful song and I like it. I think I first heard Nightwish´s version but I do prefer Aled Jones   

[scotty94]

I´ve never watched the Snowman but I know the song, it´s a beautiful song and I like it. I think I first heard Nightwish´s version but I do prefer Aled Jones   

 it a technically a crime not to watch the snowman it a classic 

[Red_A]

Not quite sure I understand what you mean here. Altered how? A woman would use a different technique, yes (with many, many different techniques to choose from) but she can easily sing the same melody in the same key.

 

I am not an expert as I stopped when I was 13, but I always thought that the boy soprano voice was a very specialised voice being trained to project into a large empty catheral.  The ladies voices I have heard, do not have that quality, I believe because they are more natural or have been trained to use a different projection technique.  I would have thought that if a girl had the same technique trained into them, they would sound the same. The limited experience I have had of girl choirs is that they sound different and better{in the main}.  Probably better as they have a longer singing life.

[Thorn Wilde]

I am not an expert as I stopped when I was 13, but I always thought that the boy soprano voice was a very specialised voice being trained to project into a large empty catheral.  The ladies voices I have heard, do not have that quality, I believe because they are more natural or have been trained to use a different projection technique.  I would have thought that if a girl had the same technique trained into them, they would sound the same. The limited experience I have had of girl choirs is that they sound different and better{in the main}.  Probably better as they have a longer singing life.

 

A woman's voice has a tighter quality. Vocal techniques are taught pretty much the same to prepubescent girls and boys, but they still sound different. The mechanics are the same, but it's a different quality of voice. Have you seen the musical Oliver!? The film version? Oliver's singing voice was done by a girl, and though she does a very good job of mimicking the boy soprano vocal quality, it's still not completely convincing if you're well-versed in this sort of thing. (I sang Where is Love at a concert when I was 7. It's not an easy song to sing...)

 

Once people hit puberty and their voices change, they have to re-learn how to use them. This goes for both men and women. Once again, the actual physical mechanics of how to find support and breath, and how to project your voice without amplification, in the case of classical singing, are more or less the same for both genders, they just sound different.

Edited December 26, 2013 by Thorn Wilde

[Dolores Esteban]

I have been listening to this song now for two hours. I like Aled Jones Version best.

Counter tenors sing the song also, D. Kai Ma for instance.

[joann414]

Simply amazed by the responses to this topic.  I've never heard the song, but going to listen now, especially since Delores said she's been listening for two hours.  If I don't feel something magical or something, I'm going to be truly disappointed.

[joann414]

I have been listening to this song now for two hours. I like Aled Jones Version best.

Counter tenors sing the song also, D. Kai Ma for instance.

Definitely like this one better.  Lovely song and the voice of the vocalist is a pleasure to listen to

[Red_A]

Dolores Esteban, on 26 Dec 2013 - 9:10 PM, said:

I have been listening to this song now for two hours. I like Aled Jones Version best.

Counter tenors sing the song also, D. Kai Ma for instance.

Definitely like this one better.  Lovely song and the voice of the vocalist is a pleasure to listen to

 

I had not hearded this one before I like it. but the indistinct diction and extra oramentation got me.

I  like Tarja Turunen more powerful voice, definitively a trained voice and could compliment the heavy backing.

Both are definitely on my listen list.

 

This is an interesting version, which may entertain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEWcOcX_AHQ

[Red_A]

 Have you seen the musical Oliver!? The film version? Oliver's singing voice was done by a girl, and though she does a very good job of mimicking the boy soprano vocal quality, it's still not completely convincing if you're well-versed in this sort of thing. (I sang Where is Love at a concert when I was 7. It's not an easy song to sing...)

 

 

 

At 12, I was given the score for "Where is Love" and after one run thru, gave it up. You must have been very good.  We then went to London and the New Therater and saw the Musical.  Although the programme says Keith Hamshere as Oliver, I think there must be a lot of poetical License. Oliver was small and it was near perfect. 

 

4 or 5 years later when the filn came out I was at University of Bradford, it was painfully obvious that it was a girl or young sounding women. But it was Mark Lester on the credits.  Only the Provost and organist agreed with me. 

 

Personally I think it showed up most in " I'd Do Anything "  where the difference between Fagin  gang and Oliver

[scotty94]

Definitely like this one better.  Lovely song and the voice of the vocalist is a pleasure to listen to

 I'm glad you liked it, it is the top film in my Christmas watch list and I get the list out every year.