Daddydavek Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 I'm wondering if anyone knows what Caroline's indiscretion was? She entertained Treadwell's troops? 1
impunity Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 I'm wondering if anyone knows what Caroline's indiscretion was? Well, presumably Caroline does. 1
ricky Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 I'm wondering if anyone knows what Caroline's indiscretion was? I guess that means my crystal gazing was off the Mark? Pardon the pun. I thought it was pretty good actually. 1
JimCarter Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) I'm wondering if anyone knows what Caroline's indiscretion was? Maybe Cavendish caught Treadwell giving it to Caroline up the ass and she screamed now I see what George sees in butt sex! Edited June 9, 2014 by JimCarter 1
JimCarter Posted June 14, 2014 Posted June 14, 2014 Come on guys, someone must have some idea as to why Caroline is risking her relationship with George and won't talk to him about it. Hell, he forgave her for having another man's baby, what can be so bad? 1
ricky Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 It's not the event that has George so vexed. It's that she will not confide in George. So far there has been nothing kept between them. And I again think she made a pass at him and he could not perform because he too enjoys men. I think he made her give her word of silence. So she has, at great cost kept her word. I think George will find out from Treadway and will understand her position. Especially as he studies Treadway's position over him while driving home his point! It shall be a wonderful trip delivering the Elgins to their new post. I think George COULD have been more oblidging however. He could have hired a barge to drag behind them that he could construct a palace of sorts for this crazy wench. I think her husband might of been favorably amused at the idea. 1
mmike1969 Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Caroline is now a lesbian after having sex with Treadwell. That's my guess 2
Westie Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Come on guys, someone must have some idea as to why Caroline is risking her relationship with George and won't talk to him about it. Hell, he forgave her for having another man's baby, what can be so bad? I think the question is better phrased, "what can be so bad to a man like Granger", because of course, there is a difference to how you or I might react :-) 2
Westie Posted June 15, 2014 Posted June 15, 2014 Those reading the CAP story might have noticed one small amount of crossover.... 2
B1ue Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I think the question is better phrased, "what can be so bad to a man like Granger", because of course, there is a difference to how you or I might react :-) She found employment at a middle-class hat shop near Picadilly Circus in order to relieve her boredom? 1
ricky Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Perhaps she lost a sum to Treadway on the tables at her newly invested casino and the payback he demanded was a posting to Granger's ship! Now how could she tell George that! 1
Timothy M. Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I'm wondering if anyone knows what Caroline's indiscretion was? My guess is she let slip that George likes to be intimate with men. Maybe intentionally because she hopes Treadwell will keep him happy at sea. Afterwards she may have regretted as she realised her husband might be furious. I expect to be completely wrong, I usually am when it comes to figuring out Mark's complicated schemes Edited June 16, 2014 by Timothy M. 2
Westie Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 She found employment at a middle-class hat shop near Picadilly Circus in order to relieve her boredom? Only if she can time travel to 1819 :-) when Piccadilly Circus came into being.... Perhaps a haberdashery at Chelsea? :-) 1
ricky Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Only if she can time travel to 1819 :-) when Piccadilly Circus came into being.... Perhaps a haberdashery at Chelsea? :-) Well the Grangers have ALWAYS been ahead of their times. Look at the baths, the stove in his great room, the iron water storage tanks, the boat davits. So why not a hat shop in Piccadilly? Perhaps she was responsible for the circus. Oh YE of little faith. A Masterful Mark could write that in easily. 1
Mark Arbour Posted June 16, 2014 Author Posted June 16, 2014 She found employment at a middle-class hat shop near Picadilly Circus in order to relieve her boredom? I think that would horrify Granger's mother more than George. 1
ricky Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I think that would horrify Granger's mother more than George. Oh I don't know. Every woman likes a beautiful hat and a good deal. lol And Caroline has always been a bit of a rebel.
JimCarter Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Perhaps she lost a sum to Treadway on the tables at her newly invested casino and the payback he demanded was a posting to Granger's ship! Now how could she tell George that! It has to be something uncommon and it seems that she is sure George won't find out from other sources. I'm thinking something to do with money, but I doubt it is gambling. Maybe it has something to do with the reason Treadway was out of favor with the army. This is driving me nuts. Edited June 17, 2014 by JimCarter
Mark Arbour Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 It has to be something uncommon and it seems that she is sure George won't find out from other sources. I'm thinking something to do with money, but I doubt it is gambling. Maybe it has something to do with the reason Treadway was out of favor with the army. This is driving me nuts. Hang in there Jim. Chapter 12 is locked and loaded for Friday, and then you'll have your answer. 1
JimCarter Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hang in there Jim. Chapter 12 is locked and loaded for Friday, and then you'll have your answer. Thanks Mark.
ricky Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 If its ready then fire! I'll be in transit to Berlin on friday.Buenos Aires sucked BTW.
Timothy M. Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Ah so this was the secret Caroline was too embarrassed to reveal. I guess it's not only in modern times that straight women are turned on by the idea of gay sex Oh well at least George had a great time during his bath with Treadwell. Hope they become friends and George forgives his wife. 1
Daddydavek Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I think that George will follow through with discussing this with his father for advice. His father may not be so forgiving as he is certainly 'old school'. If this should get out beyond a few servants gossip and it likely will, it will have to be dealt with and the mores of the time were a bit harsh.... 1
Brumguy Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Mark, in the Story Note introduction to this fantastic story you describe a Guinea being worth 25-30 shillings. This surprised me as I have always known Guineas to be worth 21 shillings. So I did the unthinkable and did some historic research (yet again). I found the official site of the Royal Mint, which is the body that produces British coins. --- www.royalmint.com/our-coins/ranges/guinea I quote the relevant part about the value of the guinea " ..... Its actual value fluctuated until finally stabilising, in 1717, at 21 shillings, a monetary unit used up decimalisation in 1971." The last Guinea was actually minted in 1813. 1
impunity Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 (edited) I quote the relevant part about the value of the guinea " ..... Its actual value fluctuated until finally stabilising, in 1717, at 21 shillings, a monetary unit used up decimalisation in 1971." It always astonishes me that a guinea (21 shillings) was equivalent to 1 pound and 1 shilling. What an impractical unit of currency! (Not that there was anything practical about predecimalization British currency.) Apparently the guinea was a better class of currency than the pound. According to this website http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/moneyold.htm, "A guinea was considered a more gentlemanly amount than £1. You paid tradesmen, such as a carpenter, in pounds but gentlemen, such as an artist, in guineas." Edited June 20, 2014 by impunity 1
ricky Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I think that George will follow through with discussing this with his father for advice. His father may not be so forgiving as he is certainly 'old school'. If this should get out beyond a few servants gossip and it likely will, it will have to be dealt with and the mores of the time were a bit harsh.... I disagree. Such a conversation might bring out certain members of the brotherhood. Namely Cavendish! I think that unless this bears fruit it will be largely forgotten except for the confrontation with Caroline. Something that can now be done. If there is to be a little Freddie then things might get a little heated. But I can not see George getting vexed with Cavendish. He loves him too much. I think that Freddie Granger and Treadway might have to try a bit of three way fun when he returns. This does not explain what happened to Arthur though. Has he lost interest in his sweed? Is the madness upon him again?
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