Its Surface today the Pro 3 ... Is it worth it?

[hh5]

It can survive 4.5 ft drop on to a rug!!

 

oh duh wow??? the 12in personal laptop replacement??

gosh he was told not to drop it, oh wow

 

 

 

Last Rug Drop Test (76 ways to drop it ... duh wow)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJn-rq2acGU

 

Last Real Drop Test on stone brick lol #77 way to drop it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIafcvTqF_Q

 

 

Available

8/31/2014 on i3 n i7

6/20/2014 on i5

 

In the box

12in Surface Pro 3, Surface Pen, 36-watt power supply

 

There's no built-in GPS.

 

NO GPS (they didn't listen to what the ppl wanted)

 

Ports

Full-size USB 3.0, microSD card reader, Headphone jack, Mini DisplayPort, Cover port

 

64GB to 512GB model

28GB to 062GB OS overhead

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36GB to 450GB Available storage

 

No HD............................you can get for the money maybe w HD

512GB i7 = 1,949 ........ Lenovo Yoga 2, i7-4500U, 512gbSSD, 8GB, 13.3in = 1650

256GB i7 = 1,549 ........ Acer Aspire, i7 1,8ghz 256ssd, 13.3=1525

256GB i5 = 1,299......... Lenovo Idea Pad Yoga, i5 1.8ghz, 256gb 13.3in=1202

128GB i5 = 999   ......... Asus Transformer, 13.3in i5-4200u, 128gb 4gb=940

64GB i3 = 799     ......... Acer Iconia i3 1.9ghz 64gb ssd 11.6in=569

 

Extra 

Keyboard=130

Docking Station=199.99

36-watt power supply=79

( gosh that connector looks like it can wear out easily as well as fall out of it socket )

USB 3 gigabit Ethernet adaptor=39.99

[1] Office sold separately.

[2] System software uses significant storage space. Available storage is subject to change based on system software updates and apps usage. 1GB = 1 billion bytes. For more information, see surface.com/storage.

[3] Surface Covers sold separately

[4] Adapter required, sold separately.

[5] Up to 9 hours of battery life for video playback. Battery life for other uses will vary.

[6] Your new Surface comes with a one-year limited hardware warranty and 90 days of technical support.

 

 

 

Gosh Surface #2 write off??

 

msft is no apple n no samsung ... yet they wanna charge their prices

gosh will there be the 50% discount by this coming black friday??

 

try tweeting 

@Microsoft Surface 3 NO Built-in GPS n No free Keyboard gets no customers ... #3 write off coming very soon

Edited May 21, 2014 by hh5

[hh5]

so I chated w msft store to ask them which i7 model they are offering for the tablet

the answer - they tell me about the i5-4300U 1.6 GHz with Intel® HD Graphics 4400

duh I told them i wanted to know the i7 model ie: 4910mq

they couldn't answer my question ... they wasted 6 min of my time

 

I hit them hard w my answer .... well then this why aug 2014 is the released date but without tech answer how can customers bet on the surface

errrrk their answer ... Let me look into something else for you.

 

I guess I got an india support person ,,, that would kill the deal

 

anyway  ,,, if this chat went with a corporate client in this anonymous conditions ... we can see that MSFT could easily lose a corporate deal

 

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anyway 1949 is a lot of money

 

example for just 200 more one could get a laptop w these specs

 

HP ENVY TouchSmart 17t-j100 17.3" Quad Edition FULL HD Touch Screen EXTREME PERFORMANCE & STORAGE Notebook PC (Intel Core i7-4702MQ, 16GB DDR3L RAM, Beats Audio, 960GB SSD + 2TB Storage, 2GB NVIDIA 750M Gaming Graphics)

 

thats 8gb more memory, 2tb hd, 2gb dedicated video memory as well as 2013 haswell i7

 

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for 1800 one could get this

RAM: 8GB
Display: 17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Touch-Screen BrightView LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
Graphics: 2GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M Graphics of dedicated video memory
2288GB* Total Disk Space:
Primary: 240GB Solid State (SSD)
Secondary: 1TB (1024GB) 5400RPM Hard Drive
Third: 1TB (1024GB) 5400RPM Hard Drive

Optical Drive: Blu-Ray Writer/Burner
Wireless: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 7260 & Bluetooth® Version 4.0; Intel Wireless Display Support

Keyboard: Full-size Backlit keyboard, numeric keypad, red accents
Webcam: HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual-Array Microphone
Added Security: Fingerprint Reader with HP SimplePass
Ports: 4 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Ports, HDMI, 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
Audio Enhancements: HP Beats Audio with Quad Speakers
Battery: 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
 

Warranty: Two Year HP Warranty included

 

just by scaling down to 8gb memory one can save 150 dollars and also get a two year warranty instead of MSFT one year warranty

by investing 175 dollars to get 16gb memory

 

one is only spending 25 dollars more than 1949 ... one would have something w more bang for the buck

 

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by the time surface pro 3 i7 hits sept 2014 msft will have a lot of competition for end of 3rd quarter n 4th quarter sales

many big names will come out w stuff that has this years latest i7 chip ie: 4910mq

 

intel promised the 14nm chip n that means 

by 1st\2nd quarter 2015 ... companies could put out updated products

or wait to have another fall war on tablets n laptops

Edited May 21, 2014 by hh5

[hh5]

ok it took an MVP to actually answer the question on a surface pro 3 forum

 

Processor                                  GPO                         Storage         RAM          CPU

4th Generation Intel Core i3        Intel HD 4200               64 GB         4 GB          i3-4020Y/ 1.5 GHz

4th Generation Intel Core i5        Intel HD 4400             128 GB         4 GB          i5-4300U/ 2.9 GHz

4th Generation Intel Core i5        Intel HD 4400              256 GB        8 GB          i5-4300U/ 2.9 GHz

4th Generation Intel Core i7        Intel HD 5000              256 GB        8 GB          i7-4650U/ 3.3GHz

4th Generation Intel Core i7        Intel HD 5000              512 GB        8 GB          i7-4650U/ 3.3GHz

 

 

The better comparison

 

Pros and Cons summary

Core i7-4650U

Needs less power

Drawbacks:

Smaller number of CPU cores,
Does not support as many threads,
Clocked lower,
Somewhat higher official price,
Not upgreadable or replaceable

 

Core i7-4710MQ

Has more CPU cores,
Supports more threads at once,
Clocked higher,
Lower official price,
The processor is upgreadable

Drawbacks:

Requires significantly more power

 

 

 

 

for 1949 your not getting the full i7-4710mq experience that exists in current laptops

but 4650 works for tablet low power at a large expense

you won't be able to run cpu intensive stuff like what the 4710 can handle

The 4650 might not run the best games efficiently as 4710

 

its the price of other features that has to tell you its worth 1949

ie: the pen and bringing up onenote with a click

for the laptop its extra for a pen and to find out if it works or not

 

for 1949 its uncomfortable or awkward on the lap than the laptop

but then with low power you won't burn your lap w the heat

Edited May 21, 2014 by hh5

[hh5]

The pen doesn’t have a rechargeable battery. You need a AAAA battery (the first time I’ve heard of that size) plus two wristwatch-type coin-cell batteries. And you need a small screwdriver, not included, to replace the coin-cell batteries.

 

[hh5]

>> You have to admire Microsoft's persistence

Persistence like Titanic trying sink every year like clockwork

 

That pretty much wraps it up. There was also the notable absence of a touch-optimised version of Office for Surface; and the lack of anything running Windows RT. The expectation now is that RT will be allowed to die a quiet and unmourned death as Intel improves the power efficiency of its processors, while Nokia - owned now by Microsoft of course - can make big ARM-based devices. You can probably make phone calls on them too.

 

But the Surface? It's too expensive and doesn't offer anything that you can't split out into equally useful devices for less money; and it doesn't offer anything unique through being combined. You have to admire Microsoft's persistence, but this doesn't seem to be the innovation that the market is looking for. (PS: a new blade on a fan isn't sufficient innovation to make someone buy a tablet-laptop combo.) The last time I looked in the family shower, there were separate bottles of shampoo and conditioner. Some things make better tag lines than real-world scenarios.