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LOL glad you "fell off the wagon" so speak

hey Nick! I'm excited to hear that chapter 37 is out, I'm going to whip up something to eat then read it . So obviously I don't know what you've done yet, but whatever it is don't worry about it. EVERYONE'S done bad/mean/stupid stuff before, but if I had to guess I'd say you've probably done alot less mean stuff than most people. Besides it's the present and the future which matter most, and I'd bet you do/will do many really nice things for lots of people, including James. Anyway I can't wait to read the next chapter (So I'd better hurry up and get some dinner), take care. Kevin

Hmm well it wasn't really that dirty of a trick, and it had nothing to do with being gay, but when we were kids (probably about 12 and 10), my cousin was pestering me like crazy to find her more batteries for her cd player. Finally I just got fed up and said: "Batteries? You don't need those, just use some torn up shreds of paper, I'll show you how later." Then I left the house for awhile. Apparently while I was gone she asked EVERYONE she could find if they knew how to get the paper to work in the cd player, and as soon as she saw me she brought me a sheet of paper and her cd player and demanded "SHOW ME!" And let's see, a few years ago I had this strange phobia of cheese graters (.....don't ask I'm weird. I'm over it BTW, in fact there's even one in my sink RIGHT NOW ). Anyway I was visiting a good friend of mine and when I opened her drawer and saw one (after nearly passing out ), I finally mustered up enough courage to hide it in a little used cabinet behind seldom used things. Hey, I thought I was acting in her best interest to protect her! Anyway she didn't find it for months and never realized it was me UNTIL she found it, then it clicked.

LOL yep, I take full responsibility. And I think you're right, or was it me? eh, I think we're right can't really tell what's going to happen in this story based on the other two. Welcome Wynter! And yes everyone should read TLW! I agree!

Actually I agree with you Jota, and was about to say "Rory isn't as bad as Quinn!". I wouldn't go quite so far as to say I liked Rory as a protagonist. Now Owen I liked! Rory's doing quite a bit better though, and I never found him as annoying as Quinn. I think what I didn't like about Quinn was the way he didn't trust/treated Bree, Brad and Mar. And even how hesitant he was around Jude, Taylor, and Trina at first. Plus talk about handling his "self-discovery" badly! I think for the most part Rory handles his problems better than poor Quinn, but yeah I guess perhaps that is a result of Quinn being uncomfortable with his sexuality. Which of course would get him a little more sympathy from me. Even though my attitude is mostly "hmm, guess I like that" when it comes to preferences, sexual or otherwise. I mean growing up I knew some people who couldn't admit to liking a certain song, article of clothing, food, or even person if the thing in question came from a different style/culture etc. I mean really just get over it and go enjoy it, as long as it isn't bad for you or anyone else (gotta throw in my disclaimer ). Take care all, Kevin Edit: None of my buisness of course, and I'd never encourage someone to come out before they were ready. But purely on the issue of having a relationship. Don't letcha self miss out on something great just because it might take a little getting used to. If you unilaterally prefer men to women, you deserve a great guy to be with. To quote Joe from The Human Condition by JFinn: Anyway did not mean to meddle, just my opinion, and of course I don't know your circumstances as well as you do.

Yeah, seriously Slaveboy, you might consider picking it up again. Rory's doing better with Eddie, and I've honestly thought 18 was better than all the rest before it, and 19 was better still, and 20 better still. Anyway, check it out.

LOLOL Matt, on the bright side (if you can call it that) 21 won't be out for a bit. lol you can look at this as a trial run for getting over the addiction! LOL It might destroy his phone bill though hehehe and for the record I'm not addicted myself. In fact I come in here everyday, check for updates constantly, and follow the forum meticulously,,,,,,and still no sign of addiction yet :king:

I agree, It's always just seemed like Luke and Rory were a certainty in the end. Though I have entertained the idea of Luke/Aaron or Luke/Seth, or even Seth/Rory, And each of these possibilities holds certain appeal, realistically I think it's always going to have to be Luke/Rory. Matt, you posted! and I agree with ya too.

LOL so that's "twipping". Well yes I suppose I do twip a lot here. But I don't think I do that much in most other contexts. Anyway thanks for the info and take care

OK so I just got back from a Christmas party, this one hosted by (and attended by) different people from work. Anyway it was pretty fun, but not as much fun as the first one. The first one was more everyone I'm close with, and was in a familiar setting. This was with more "friendly acquaintances" and I'd actually never been to the girl's apartment before. Anyway when I got there I only knew like two people, and to make matters worse most of the guys there seemed like your typical redneck southerners. There were two cute guys there at that time though. One of them was an exboyfriend of one of the hostesses (and one of the reddest necked of all, but still pleasant to behold). Anyway he was actually pretty nice, just obviously not really the tolerant type, BUT the cool thing was that I thought he was really cute, and woulda guessed him to be a little younger than me, nope 8 years older! LOL I hope I can still look early twenties when I'm 30. Anyway the other attractive one was the same girl's younger brother. Also I'm pretty sure straight, but really adorable (LOL he was the youngest there at 19, probably a little too young for me anyway ). Actually I've always found the girl attractive too, so it's no surprise she'd have a pretty brother (or be able to date good-looking guys). Anyway like I said it was slow at first, but then more people I knew showed up, including this guy who works at the same place, but never with me. Let me describe the guy (Michael). He's about 5'9'', rail thin, bleached blonde hair, pierced lip, nose, eyebrow, and several per ear, as well as 4 or 5 tattoos, deep blue eyes, and the best smile ever! He's also extremely friendly, nice, and cheerful. So as soon as I laid eyes on the guy several months ago when he came in to apply, I was instantly taken with him, after I got to know him and found out he was really cool (and saw that smile close up), I was even more interested. Unfortunately it was then that I found out he had a girlfriend (he definitely had the emo thing going and I was actually thinking he may have been gay before he mentioned just reconciling with his girlfriend.) Anyway I was of course disappointed, but I never let myself fall for straight guys, or anyone in a relationship (even a cruddy relationship, which their's isn't), I just won't go there. Anyway a couple of weeks later I met said girlfriend (Liz), and really liked her, and thought they were perfect for each other. She's pretty much the same description I gave of him only female, no tattoos (yet she's planning on getting two), and her smile, though bewitching, doesn't have quite as strong an effect on me. Anyway they're both terrific, and I'm really happy they're together because they fit so perfectly in style, personality, etc. So anyway I'm really glad when they get there, and immediately go strike up a conversation. Well after a bit Michael decides he wants a cigarette, but neither Liz nor myself smoke (actually it seems she smokes pot sometimes, but that's irrelevant) so he goes outside, and we stay and chat. So this girl's incredible, I mean I don't even know her that well and we're having this great conversation. (Yeah actually some girls can turn my head a bit, and she was definitely one of them, though again I'd never hit on someone seeing someone else) So anyway we're talking and the next thing I know she's saying "I should introduce you to my roommate, I think you'd really like him." and yeah it was obviously not a casual "you two could be friends" kinda thing, but a "you two would hit it off". So I was pretty happy, mostly because considering a gay friend of mine was trying to fix me up with a girl, I was feeling really "off the map" so to speak. But Liz, sweet, cute, perceptive Liz had me sussed. Anyway the conversation only picked up from there too; turns out her other roommate is a girl I know casually. So we were talking about her (Mallory, another cute, punkish girl) and she was like "yeah she's doing fine, she's excited because her girlfriend's about to move up here". Then she went on to talk about how she and her friends (guys and girls) used to all make out with each other when they were in high school. Which really got my mind racing considering I'm pretty sure Michael was one of the group .....Yeah yeah I know that's really promiscuous, and I'd never do anything like that, and would probably even be a little hesitant to date someone that "open", but it still put a pleasant little mental image in my head. It's interesting really while I can be attracted to any "type" of person, I find that goth/punk/emo boys are kinda over-represented (and yeah actually girls fitting that description too, to a lesser extent). Then way on the other end of the continuum I'm usually attracted to the cute, really Christian evangelical dudes (fundamentalists are a turn off, but if their just passionate about it without trying to force feed it to everyone they meet). Which of course isn't really fitting on either account, I mean I generally find both types really cool, and people of both genders from both camps have made up some of my closest friends. But I'm probably too tame for the "freaky" ones, and probably too freaky (read "gay", or "not sexually repressed") for the tame ones . Oh well I think I just dig non-conformists. For the record, I don't have any piercings or tattoos and probably won't ever get any. And while I'm a Christian, I don't like to get too mixed into the groups and things because I find too much closed-minded fundamentalism. So I probably wouldn't be very comfortable getting too far into either culture. Still they're fun to mingle with. Oh yeah so I did pretty well with the not getting drunk tonight, I had ONE beer, and a couple of small shots of this lime drink (which I think is just a friend's personal creation, I only drank it at all because I remembered it being really good from last time). Then we played "dirty Santa", I ended up with two little bottles of bubble bath in champaign shaped plastic bottles. Which is great because I actually got something similar for someone else as a Christmas present, and ever since I bought it I keep thinking "So I think I'll use some of that cool bubble bath tonight", then it hits me "oh yeah, you didn't buy any for yourself". So anyway now I have some Have an awesome day everyone! Kevin

Thanks Viv! It's quite a relief, and I mailed off all the packages I had to today. I hope you're almost done with your shopping as well! Take care LOL Kitty, that's the exact same thing a friend of mine said when I mentioned the dream. Thanks Andronicus! I'm definitely planning to try to turn it into something. I'm really glad I wrote down the gist of it before I forgot, already I know I've forgotten some of the more interesting details, but I hope I can re-create some other good ones. Anyway Thanks LOL Vic, To be honest with you I really think that's where all this was coming from. I can't think of anything else my subconscience could have used to dig up this stuff. Anyway have an awesome day you guys!

Hey Green, I just read the rest of the story. Sounds like the poor kid does have quite a few issues. I agree with James, he needs help, it was good of you to suggest your therapist. Let's hope he decides he wants to change. On another note, I hope you did something awesome and sweet to make it up to poor Chaz. I feel sorry for him being stuck in the middle like that, especially when he behaved correctly. Anyway I hope everything works out, have an awesome day. Kevin

Hey slaveboy, Congrats on being out on break! I'm going to be playing Dirty Santa tonight at a Christmas party! What a coincedence. It's awesome that you were able to get along with the team cap. WTG. And yeah chances are he is straight, one question though? What's "TWIP" Anyway have a great break and take care. Kevin (who may or may not Twip )

So let's see, I got home from work yesterday and went straight to sleep (yeah it was like 4pm), and I slept until about midnight, then I lounged around in bed for about an hour. It was awesome, I love being in bed and not being asleep. I usually fall asleep pretty fast, and I usually stay asleep until I HAVE to get up, so it's always really nice to just chill. Anyway, all that aside, something useful actually happened too. I had this really weird (kinda creepy) dream. It was about these three guys. Two of them hated each other, and the 3rd guy was somehow mixed up with both of them, I can't remember, he was either one of them's friend and the other's brother, or maybe one of them's bf and the other's friend/brother, I'm really not sure, but somehow he was mixed up with both. Anyway, so they had this dramatic showdown and the first guy tried to kill the second one, but the other guy got away.....ALMOST. He then ran into the third guy, who ended up distracting him until the other guy could kill him. Anyway so it was kinda like the third guy "woke up" in the dream, and it was as though he was dreaming about what had happened. Anyway he woke up to the sound of this little child saying something like "stay calm, and tell me why you did it" (meaning the betrayal which caused the other guy's death). So anyway the guy sits up in bed and turns around and there's the little boy sitting on his headboards. So the kid keeps repeating stuff like that, asking for an explination for why the guy betrayed his friend, and all the while he's like hopping around the bed, just out of the other guys reach. So finally the boy's standing on the side of the bed, and the guy's really upset and frustrated so he lunges at the kid and tries to grab his arm, but the kid ducks underneath of the bed. Well when the guy turns around the kid like stands up (still under the bed), and his head and shoulders come through the mattress and stuff, only it's not him at all, it's the dead guy. So really all along it was the dead guy haunting the guy who betrayed him and got him killed. Anyway it was a really weird dream, and unfortunately the characters didn't even have names or anything, and I"m not sure of their relationships or motives. BUT I thought it was pretty interesting and fairly original. SO I think I might see if I can't revise it a little, go into more detail, and right a short story about it. I was thinking this would still be right at the beginning, and the story would be about the guy being haunted and WHY he betrayed the other guy and got him killed. Yeah I know it's not great, but I'm getting really desperate to have SOME kind of story done by the deadline, so I think I'm going to use it. Anyway I would talk about my day etc. But I'm really trying to get out of the habit of making insanely long posts, so I won't. But basicially I finally got my Christmas presents wrapped and my cards sent. Tomorrow evening I'm going to another work Christmas party (held by different people this time), and I'm planning to not drink at all. Then Thursday we're exchanging gifts at work, I'm really excited because from the hints everyone's given me it's stuff I really want, and I can't wait to see if everyone likes what I got them, I think they will . Oh and you guys remember my coworker whom I have a "complicated" history with, the one who took my shift for me awhile back (not Amber, her name's Kim). Well anyway I finally found out why she was all up in my buisness awhile back (2 or 3 months ago) about some stuff. It turns out she thought I was depressed and not handling it well. I wasn't depressed, I was just ticked off at her and kinda "sulky" where she was concerned, and in all fairness I got the impression SHE was the one dealing with some stuff (which I now know is also true). Anyway before it was bugging me because she kept asking intrusive questions, then telling me she didn't like stuff, but not telling me why. I just thought she was being nosey, and it probably just ticked me off more (and made it seem worse to her). I wish she'd just told me then that she was concerned, I'd have found that sweet, but then we were at each other's throats alot then, so I guess it wouldn''t have been easy. Anyway seems like we are over all that now. One final thing, my subject title reminds me of, it's a funny scene from Friends Chandler is talking about how he hates his job and doesn't have any aspirations to do anything else. So he says something to the effect of: "I hate not knowing what I want to do with my life, you guys all have it together, you have a dream, I don't have a dream." Then Ross says: "Ah, the lesser known I don't have a dream speach." Anyway I just always found that particularly funny. Have an awesome day everyone and take care. Kevin (Yeah I know this still ended up being a long post, but I really did cut a bunch lol)

I agree with Eric, from what I've read, I doubt Chaz would let this kid's advances go very far. And perhaps if you do introduce him to a few people, he'll find someone of his own, or at least more friends to hang out with.

okay, "YAY!" Enjoy your break

Yeah, I used to think the same way about my voice. But it's amazing what happens when you're around other people who sing well. When it comes right down to it, there are very few people who really can't sing. The hardest part about being in a chorus, for me, isn't the singing anymore, it's all the memorization (the VMC usually sings off-book). If I can do it, believe me, it's a cinch that you can. The reason I suggested you look into Houston's chorus is that it's an excellent way to meet a lot of gay men in a new place without going to a bar or club. There are loads of other benefits, too. And if you are adamant about your singing, every chorus has non-singing members who help put on the shows, do publicity, etc., etc. Like I've said, Kevin, sooner rather than later.... Thanks Andronicus! That's really good advice, I'll look into it. Though I really don't think I have such a great voice. Anyway thanks and take care! Kevin

Thanks Eric! I think it's the right decision too, and now that I'm moving along with it, I feel much better. Thanks for the tip about not mixing my drinks, I'll try to keep that in mind. It's tough though since it's mostly my desire to try everything that got me in trouble in the first place lol. I hope you have an awesome Christmas and a teriffic New Year too, take care Kevin

Thanks Michael! Yeah I'm pretty excited too, can't wait. I think I lucked out where the girl was concerned, he gave me her info and visa versa, but she never tried to contact me either, so I'm thinking it was really just him that was interested in getting us together lol. Not that I don't appreciate it. Actually my best friend (and the first person I ever came out to) is a lesbian, and I know quite a few of them. I wish I got to hang out more with my cousin, I do miss her. Anyway take care Kevin

Now as soon as I read that I kept thinking Rory needs to say something like "Luke, you're gorgeous and like the nicest person in the world, anyone who wouldn't be interested in you is an idiot." Then Rory actually said to himself that anyone who wouldn't be interested in Luke is an idiot! GRRR! Why couldn't he just say that to him?!? Awesome chapter, Dom! When 18 came out I thought it was the best chapter yet, then when 19 came out I thought it was. Now I'm thinking it's 20! Dom musta really hit his stride in this story! Can't wait till the next one comes out. Kevin

Hey Viv! I agree it is a great story! Also congrats on getting the lights up and somemore presents bought!

Hey Slaveboy, Well perhaps now that you know you can make an effort to get along with him better. I mean it's sometimes easier once you understand someone. Anyway good luck.

Hmmm I hadn't thought of that before. LOL guess I'd better watch it. Thanks for the tip, I'll look into the chorus thing to see if I can catch a performance. LOL no one should have to endure my singing though.

Also, he did at least come to the realization that whatever developed between Seth and Luke, he'd have to put up with it since Luke put up with him and Aaron. I was proud of him for realizing that. Of course whether or not he's actually able to do that remains to be seen. LOL when I first read that I assumed "Left (L)" and "Right ( R)", but since it could be "Luke (L)" and "Rory ( R)", that's REALLY dirty/descriptive/funny.