Eh, Right many hoa's are shit, hoa in the neighborhood that I live in doesn't bitch about the neighbors and isn't strict, most that I heard of it's the older ones, that has nothing else better to do. And we never have to go to those meetings is it a requirement? There is some parts that are good about hoa's that aren't a pain, and should be able to approve most things, least in the experience that I have. I did have a friend though that got fined for leaving something out, that's ridiculous.