mmike1969 Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Wonderful chapter Except we can expect more drama now with either Robbie or Brad going through yet another cycle of midlife crisis when one of them finds out they are a father Or maybe would be lucky and Jeanine is expecting twins... And Matt or Wade... I think I would prefer Wade is my father... Just saying... I bet they are going to be born around Sept...
Hermetically Sealed Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Ok did anyone else get a weird feeling about the conversation between Brad and Steph, just before Darius came in? Steph is what? Bored, unhappy? He's only about 55 at this point. Is he having a mid-life crisis too? He's always been a life-of-the-party kind of guy. With just mostly JP, Isadore, and Frank in that big ole house, I could see boredom setting in, especially since JP is not big on the love den idea. Joking aside, I'm thinking this might be more important than it seems at first glance. But then again, that's why Mark is a genius. It might be important, might not, he just likes to keep us guessing. I think most of it is that the quiet life just isn't his thing, and now that most of the family has moved away, Escorial is so very quiet. Stef is probably worried that his life is going to become like one of those sedate old couples, and may be afraid of slowing down. Escorial needs some infusion of youth to bring it back to life, or Stef and JP need a change of scenery.
methodwriter85 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) The thing they have to remember, though, is that Jeanine and Tiffany are the parents here. They're the sperm donors. While I have no doubt in my mind that Jeanine and Tiffany will allow them lots of visitation and involvement, Robbie/Brad and Matt/Wade aren't really going to be parenting these kids. It'll be interesting to see how that works out- like if they get hesitant when they're presented with termination of parental status papers. As for the Stefan...good point about Escorial needing an infusion of youth. Although Matt and Wade spend time there, don't they? Edited January 18, 2011 by methodwriter85
Mark M Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 OH MY GODDDD!!!!!!! WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!!! more kids!!!.....Man this is awesome! lol. Wonder which one it will be for matt n wade though.....and i'm kinda worried cuz there 20......brad was a little older then that before will came along. And Robbie well i guess was a dad at like 19 or just out of highschool....or before even...? Well if it's before....which i think it is.......That gawd matt ain't following that route. And I wonder where Wade n Matts income will come for after there done at stanford. . Soo many interesting possibilities.
Mark Arbour Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 Wonderful chapter Except we can expect more drama now with either Robbie or Brad going through yet another cycle of midlife crisis when one of them finds out they are a father Or maybe would be lucky and Jeanine is expecting twins... And Matt or Wade... I think I would prefer Wade is my father... Just saying... I bet they are going to be born around Sept... Yeah, if they conceived in December then they'll probably be due in August/September. You rocket scientist you. I think most of it is that the quiet life just isn't his thing, and now that most of the family has moved away, Escorial is so very quiet. Stef is probably worried that his life is going to become like one of those sedate old couples, and may be afraid of slowing down. Escorial needs some infusion of youth to bring it back to life, or Stef and JP need a change of scenery. Wade and Matt are living there now. I think Stef just misses the excitement of the Hollywood scene. I suspect a visit now and then will cure him of his malaise.
centexhairysub Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I cannot imagine that Brad, Robbie, Matt, or Wade will not be in the life of any child they fathered irregardless of who the primary parent is; that just isn't in the nature for any of them. I do think that Matt and Wade would have more issues to deal with than either Brad or Robbie but that is due to more the level of maturity and where they are in life than anything else. The issue with Stef being bored is something that is more internal to his character to me; he is so afraid of aging that it maybe coming out in unexpected ways. Although I have come to really enjoy the character of Stef, I have always felt he could fall into a caricture of the aging queen always chasing the fleeting sweetness of youth but never being able to recapture it. Although Mark seems to indicate nothing will come of this, I have to wonder... I can't remember if it was here or on Mark's Yahoo group that someone brought up how Matt and Wade would afford things after college; families at that level almost always have trust established that would give a certain income to the individual, often without having access to the principal. Although neither would probably have to work, I can't imagine either of them just turning into a dilletante...
Mark Arbour Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 I cannot imagine that Brad, Robbie, Matt, or Wade will not be in the life of any child they fathered irregardless of who the primary parent is; that just isn't in the nature for any of them. I do think that Matt and Wade would have more issues to deal with than either Brad or Robbie but that is due to more the level of maturity and where they are in life than anything else. The issue with Stef being bored is something that is more internal to his character to me; he is so afraid of aging that it maybe coming out in unexpected ways. Although I have come to really enjoy the character of Stef, I have always felt he could fall into a caricture of the aging queen always chasing the fleeting sweetness of youth but never being able to recapture it. Although Mark seems to indicate nothing will come of this, I have to wonder... I can't remember if it was here or on Mark's Yahoo group that someone brought up how Matt and Wade would afford things after college; families at that level almost always have trust established that would give a certain income to the individual, often without having access to the principal. Although neither would probably have to work, I can't imagine either of them just turning into a dilletante... Great comments all. I don't see Brad, Robbie, Matt, or Wade simply acknowledging that they're mere sperm donors and taking a back seat. There will be a few other reasons why this probably won't happen in upcoming chapters. I think that Stef is enjoying his life, but that doesn't mean he can't get bored from time to time. He has a relationship with JP that is really ideal for him: JP is his foundation, his rock, while he basically has as much freedom as he wants. You're right that most kids from families like Matt's and Wade's have trust funds, and several of the characters in this story have already been noted to have had them (including Matt). Wade would definitely have money set aside for him. Guys like them, especially Wade, aren't likely to end up as lazy bums.
methodwriter85 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Great comments all. I don't see Brad, Robbie, Matt, or Wade simply acknowledging that they're mere sperm donors and taking a back seat. There will be a few other reasons why this probably won't happen in upcoming chapters. I'm not saying they won't be in the lives of whatever kids come out of this, but c'mon...I don't think Tiffany and Jeanine expect or intended for the biological fathers to have an active role in parenting here. The parents are Tiffany and Jeanine here. I think they would understand and respect that.
Ivy Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I could see Wade attending law school after Stanford, whereas Matt seems more like the type to jump straight into the workforce. I'm not sure if Wade has any intentions of entering politics at some point, but a law degree wouldn't hurt if that was the case as its a route many politicians take. As long as neither of them goes to work for Enron whatever they do is fine with me.
Mark Arbour Posted January 18, 2011 Author Posted January 18, 2011 I could see Wade attending law school after Stanford, whereas Matt seems more like the type to jump straight into the workforce. I'm not sure if Wade has any intentions of entering politics at some point, but a law degree wouldn't hurt if that was the case as its a route many politicians take. As long as neither of them goes to work for Enron whatever they do is fine with me. LOL. Enron. Now there's an idea. Maybe Brian can end up as Ken Lay's bitch.
methodwriter85 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Maybe Matt could wind up working for Bear Stearns after he finishes his MBA circa 2004-2005? That could make an '08 story even more interesting. Matt working as a rising investment banker in New York City while making the commute every weekend to see Wade in DC, who's campaigning for Obama. Working at Enron seems a little too soon for Matt- he'd be just out of undergrad in spring '02. Even with connections he'd still end up in the mail room- so maybe he could be a rising player in Bear Stearns in '05-'08 instead? Edited January 18, 2011 by methodwriter85
PrivateTim Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Maybe Matt could wind up working for Bear Stearns after he finishes his MBA circa 2004-2005? That could make an '08 story even more interesting. Matt working as a rising investment banker in New York City while making the commute every weekend to see Wade in DC, who's campaigning for Obama. Working at Enron seems a little too soon for Matt- he'd be just out of undergrad in spring '02. Even with connections he'd still end up in the mail room- so maybe he could be a rising player in Bear Stearns in '05-'08 instead? Matt is more likely to wind up at International Creative Management (ICM) or Creative Artists Agency (CAA) than old school energy or investment banking. He could also land a job at Dreamworks as an assistant to Geffen or Katezenberg. If he wanted to go into the financial world, he'd more likely wind up at a Silicon Valley capital venture company or an old line SF company like Sutro or Dodge & Cox. He wouldn't want to go back east, why would he?? And no way Wade is for Obama, he is a Hillary person all the way.
methodwriter85 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) Well, if Wade becomes a lobbyist or something in D.C. after graduation, I was thinking that Matt being in New York City would make having a long-distance relationship easier than if Matt stayed in California. It's not like Matt would exactly be hurting for work for most of the next decade if he were in New York. I think Wade would start with Hilary, but then he'd jump for Obama when Hilary starts looking less likely. Although being that Wade is from a Southern family, I could see Wade being really attracted to the idea of working for a black candidate as a subconcious means to atone for his family uses slaves to grow their tobacco empire way back. Edited January 18, 2011 by methodwriter85
Caedus Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 While were speculating here maybe we should consider that Matt and Wade end up breaking up after college? It doesn't have to be because they found other partners or something, perhaps their careers took them to different parts of the country ( or globe ) and they end it? I mean it's not as if it's guaranteed that those two will make it in the long run (10+ years) and even if they managed to do so, they could easily break up after they graduate...
PrivateTim Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Well, if Wade becomes a lobbyist or something in D.C. after graduation, I was thinking that Matt being in New York City would make having a long-distance relationship easier than if Matt stayed in California. It's not like Matt would exactly be hurting for work for most of the next decade if he were in New York. I think Wade would start with Hilary, but then he'd jump for Obama when Hilary starts looking less likely. Although being that Wade is from a Southern family, I could see Wade being really attracted to the idea of working for a black candidate as a subconcious means to atone for his family uses slaves to grow their tobacco empire way back. Wade hates WDC and if he goes to law school it will be Stanford or Hastings and he'd wind up at MoFo or if Matt landed at ICM, CAA or Dreamworks, Wade would be at O'Melveny. They are Californians now and aren't heading back to the snow and ice.
methodwriter85 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 D.C., with a humid subtropical climate, is the land of snow & ice? Huh? Their winters get maybe a foot of snow each year. I think you're thinking of Minnesota there, buddy. *wink*
Mark Arbour Posted January 19, 2011 Author Posted January 19, 2011 D.C., with a humid subtropical climate, is the land of snow & ice? Huh? Their winters get maybe a foot of snow each year. I think you're thinking of Minnesota there, buddy. *wink* If you live in the Bay Area, a foot of snow might as well be Minnesota.
Mark Arbour Posted January 19, 2011 Author Posted January 19, 2011 Matt is more likely to wind up at International Creative Management (ICM) or Creative Artists Agency (CAA) than old school energy or investment banking. He could also land a job at Dreamworks as an assistant to Geffen or Katezenberg. If he wanted to go into the financial world, he'd more likely wind up at a Silicon Valley capital venture company or an old line SF company like Sutro or Dodge & Cox. He wouldn't want to go back east, why would he?? And no way Wade is for Obama, he is a Hillary person all the way. Good points. You see Matt following in Robbie's footsteps, evidently. So far his main interest has been in Brad and Stef's world, but that could change. The highlighted line cracked me up. I see Wade supporting Hillary until Hillary called it quits, then I see him going through that period of angst and frustration that Hilary supporters went through before he moves firmly into the Obama camp. I'm pretty sure Brian is a Republican. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
PrivateTim Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 Good points. You see Matt following in Robbie's footsteps, evidently. So far his main interest has been in Brad and Stef's world, but that could change. The highlighted line cracked me up. I see Wade supporting Hillary until Hillary called it quits, then I see him going through that period of angst and frustration that Hilary supporters went through before he moves firmly into the Obama camp. I'm pretty sure Brian is a Republican. (Sorry, couldn't resist) Ah hell no, Brian is a LeRoucher! 1
PrivateTim Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 D.C., with a humid subtropical climate, is the land of snow & ice? Huh? Their winters get maybe a foot of snow each year. I think you're thinking of Minnesota there, buddy. *wink* Washington DC December 2010 Bay Area December 1
methodwriter85 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Still, the winters aren't that long, you're not subjected to subzero temperatures, and when March rolls around, you get the beauty of cherry tree blossoms... Anyway, whether or not Wade moves back to DC to pursue politics, he's still pretty much a part of the family. And it's not like these people don't have private jets so as to facilitate their continental lifestyles. Edited January 19, 2011 by methodwriter85
B1ue Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 I don't think you understand how traumatic even mild East Coast winters are for us Californians. We had 80 degree temps this last week. I have a tan once again. One thing that I never quite got is if Matt moved back east to be near Wade, why would he live in a different city, where he wouldn't go home every night. I know the high profile, high important jobs are in NYC, but it's not like DC is a barren wasteland for the financial market. Well, now it might be, but there are jobs in venture capitalism everywhere, which seems to be his idea of a good time.
methodwriter85 Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Good point. I guess I just didn't think of NYC and D.C. being that much of a commute, especially considering how they're linked by trains. Although eh, like someone said, they could be broken up by then. But Wade really is part of that family, regardless of whether or not he winds up married to Matt. Although I'm not even sure they'd get "married"- they don't seem like the "let's get married and raise a family" type like Brad and Robbie were. And sometimes it worries me how I talk about these characters like they're real people. LOL. Edited January 20, 2011 by methodwriter85
Mark Arbour Posted January 20, 2011 Author Posted January 20, 2011 And sometimes it worries me how I talk about these characters like they're real people. LOL. Yeah, sometimes it worries me too. Just kidding. Keep on thinking!
gjtravel2a Posted January 20, 2011 Posted January 20, 2011 Yeah, sometimes it worries me too. Just kidding. Keep on thinking! Oy Veh, are you saying they're not???
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