JamesSavik Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Reading and editing my own work and reading published authors, I have noticed that sometimes we fall into and overuse sometimes awkward phrasing. For instance, in one of my favorite authors books, everybody scowls: She scowled at him. The hot dog vendor scowled. I scowled. The cat scowled. In another authors books, everyone must be telepaths as all they seem to do is look a question at each other. This is something we are all apt to do and a place where an editor can be invaluable. Can you identify the use (and overuse) of these little verbal faux pas? What are some of the best of these and, the worst? 2 Link to comment
Site Administrator Myr Posted October 7, 2020 Site Administrator Share Posted October 7, 2020 This will set @Cia off. I know I get an proverbial earful during editing as I have a tendency to assign non-verbal actions instead of using 'he said' (or avoiding that altogether). I haven't used scowl, but I've used every sort of action word and a few made up ones. "Ouch!" he grumped. 1 2 1 Link to comment
Valkyrie Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I've read stories where the characters do so much head shaking, I'm surprised they still have it attached to their shoulders! I tend to repeat a lot of actions like nodding or crossing arms, then have to edit them out. I rely on @aditus to catch the ones I miss. And I've told Addy he's not allowed to use the word "suddenly" anymore. 2 2 Link to comment
Site Administrator Myr Posted October 7, 2020 Site Administrator Share Posted October 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Myr said: This will set @Cia off. I know I get an proverbial earful during editing as I have a tendency to assign non-verbal actions instead of using 'he said' (or avoiding that altogether). I haven't used scowl, but I've used every sort of action word and a few made up ones. "Ouch!" he grumped. "Well, I should say not as much as my Who/That thing.," I scowled. 1 2 Link to comment
Site Administrator Popular Post Cia Posted October 7, 2020 Site Administrator Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2020 People are not objects. I am not a 'that'. I always see it and envision a snooty lady making a snarky comment about a person with a lip curl, no matter who is talking or the person being referenced. LOL And yes, I get irked when dialogue is described with vocalizations or actions that cannot possibly be actually done at the same time a person is speaking. I "see" what I am reading, so it jars me out of the visualization. Another pet peeve that does that? Independent body movements like "his arms fell" or "his eyes shot over". Um, no. People move their arms and your gaze goes places while your eyes stay firmly in your head, thank you. Or how about "I thought about" or "I considered" as phrases when writing a story in first person limited? No, I'm sorry, if an author is writing in first person then they are literally sharing the story from that character's point of view and people don't think to themselves "I thought about" or "I considered" in their own head. Using those phrases is author voice, which isn't great author craft. It's better to have the character think about the whatever or consider the two options. "I thought about how hot he looked in those jeans." is a no. "He looked great in those jeans" is a yes. "I considered if I should take a chance or wait for a better opportunity to come my way." is a no but "Should I take a chance or maybe I should wait for something better to come along?" is a yes. This, however, is one of the sneakiest and hardest author voice mistakes to avoid, imo. 4 2 Link to comment
Aditus Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Valkyrie said: And I've told Addy he's not allowed to use the word "suddenly" anymore. Every 'suddenly' is all of a sudden consciously chosen now, nods vigorously. And I stopped the eye-rolling. 2 1 Link to comment
Site Administrator Cia Posted October 8, 2020 Site Administrator Share Posted October 8, 2020 I should have mentioned all those were mistakes I had to unlearn making while writing, and even I sometimes fight author voice, btw... not just what annoys me now, regardless of what @Myr says of how I flay him while editing. 😈 I'm always my most critical editor first. 2 1 Link to comment
JayT Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 People do not shake their head yes. They nod yes and shake their head for no. Also, I feel nauseated because a nauseous smell made me that way. I'm not nauseous, that would imply that I'm giving off a foul odor and making others nauseated. 1 2 1 Link to comment
Talo Segura Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 18 hours ago, JayT said: People do not shake their head yes Unless they happen to be Indian, not the native American kind, but the Pakistan and India kind, who shake there head in agreement. But yes, you are right, most of the world nods yes and are not nauseous, nauseating perhaps! 🤣 Link to comment
BigBen Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 There's one series of stories where the author's favorite facial expression is a smirk. His characters smirk even in situations where an arrogant, obnoxious smile is wholly out of kilter with the emotional tone of the scene. It makes me wonder if the word the author was really looking for in most cases was "grimace." Link to comment
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