I agree.  But the other take on it is that safety is an illusion we have to maintain or the terrorists win.

There's mention of some sort of civilian medical and self defense training against terrorist attacks now. It sounds like a good idea. You don't need a gun to fight a gun holder, or stop bleeding from a gunshot or knife wound.

Personally, I think the current policy of "see something, say something" needs to be adjusted to "see something, do something". We're all capable of bravery or at least helping the wounded stay alive during these incidents with some basic medical aid. During the 9/11 attacks, Flight 93's passenger showed us that it was better to try and stop suicidal terrorists, at least you can save others if not yourselves. I am not saying the other flight passengers were cowardly, because they did not know what would happen or the suicidal nature of these attacks like flight 93's passenger learned from their example.

The governments can only do so much; it will take ordinary people to act as the last line of defense in this world conflict that has been escalating for the last two decades.

Cool-headed military professionalism and training saved the day for those passengers but it was pure chance that those off-duty US marines were not just on that train but in the same carriage, and the bravery and actions of the passengers who also intervened may not have been enough to prevent another terrorist massacre.

What about the train crew? They locked themselves behind a steel door and left the passengers to their fate.

Will this happen again? Yes. Consider this

Daily air passengers through London Heathrow: 200,000+

Security: every passenger robustly checked

Daily train passengers through London Underground: 4,000,000+

Security: no passengers checked

Initial reports of what actually happened and who did what were unclear - this timeline may help

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11818934/France-train-attack-Moroccan-terrorist-Ayoub-El-Khazzani-linked-to-Isis-live.html

Cool-headed military professionalism and training saved the day for those passengers but it was pure chance that those off-duty US marines were not just on that train but in the same carriage, and the bravery and actions of the passengers who also intervened may not have been enough to prevent another terrorist massacre.

 

What about the train crew? They locked themselves behind a steel door and left the passengers to their fate.

 

Will this happen again? Yes. Consider this

 

Daily air passengers through London Heathrow: 200,000+

Security: every passenger robustly checked

 

Daily train passengers through London Underground: 4,000,000+

Security: no passengers checked

 

Initial reports of what actually happened and who did what were unclear - this timeline may help

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11818934/France-train-attack-Moroccan-terrorist-Ayoub-El-Khazzani-linked-to-Isis-live.html

Zombie, sound like you support some kind of security check on train terminals and training for train crews Am I rubbing off on you after so many years that we have exchanged blows?

Military training is great, but medical training is what saved the life of the Frenchman. I think we have to consider some more basic medical training for civilians to stop bleeding and administer small first aid. That kind of stuff will be more important as terrorism continues between life and death of its victims

Basic medical training for everyone is a great idea anyway. However, the only reason it was able to be used to save the Frenchman here was because the terrorist had been successfully overpowered. Had he succeeded it would have been no use to a carriage full of dead passengers. The problem with trains is they are walk on / walk off rapid transport systems for moving millions. Airline solutions and controls just won't work. But there has to be a better way than the train crew barricading themselves behind steel doors until the shooting stops...