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August C S R Discussion Day: Treading Water By Headstall


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August is coming to a close, and with it summer for the northern hemisphere--the last hurrah for many families having those family/friend barbecues and spending time together. But not all families get to do that--which is exactly what we see in Headstall's Treading Water. Did you have a chance to read it yet? If you didn't, well be careful of spoilers in the comments but you can still enjoy my interview with Headstall.

 

Who do you like best: Tom, Jerry, or Huckleberry Hound?
Huckleberry Hound, without a doubt. I loved his ‘voice’ and with him we also got Yogi and Boo Boo, Pixie and Dixie, and Mr. Jinx. Even back then, as a kid, I loved that these cartoons were presented as fleshed out stories.

 

If you had 30 minutes of free time, what would you do?
That’s easy. Write, read, give a friend a call, or ride my bicycle.

 

If you were writing a book about your life, what would the title be?
Ironically, “Treading Water” would fit nicely, but so would “The Long and Winding Road.”

 

Is there a literary character (in the whole universe of fiction) that you’ve read who you really identified with?
One character? No. But there are many characters I’ve related to because I see bits of me in them or their experiences. A number of my own characters have traits of mine, but I don’t think I’d ever want to see all of myself in one character, or my entire life in a story. That would be a hard read to get through.

 

Is there anything you find particularly challenging in your writing?
That’s a good question. I could be flippant and say time and typing, because those are real challenges for me. The world’s worst typist here, but I’m getting better, and that helps with the time factor. It used to be such tough slogging at the beginning… tedious and frustrating. The first time I used a word processor (Wordpad) was the day I wrote my first ever chapter for “Cards on the Table.” Anyway, I guess my more appropriate answer is that nothing stands out in particular. I love the overall challenge of writing. It’s hard work, but is so rewarding when people respond to it.

 

On a personal level, I thrive on the challenge I give myself to improve. There are so many ways to say the same thing, with only the slightest nuanced differences, and I want to get to the point where I feel I mostly choose the best option… the one that most fits the voice, or paragraph, or the sentences and content around it. Actually, maybe my biggest challenge is keeping it short. J

 

What’s the best part of being an author?
Of course, the response and feedback from readers. But for me personally, I have always been creative. My original outlet was art, and I was one of a small group picked for an experimental five-year scholastic art program at the beginning of high school. Life got in the way, and my creative side took a back seat for a long time. There was an empty space where it used to be, and writing… being an author… has filled that back up. It makes me feel blessed.

 

Did the scene relating to the title, or the actual title, come to you first?
I don’t know why, but the titles have always come to me first, for every story. I should say though, I hear voices. J The story percolates in my head to some degree, and even lines of dialogue pop out of nowhere, but before I write anything I have the title.

 

There’s a lot of general contractor re-design elements in Treading Water. Did that come from life experience or research?
Life experience. I have completely rebuilt two houses all by myself, including large additions, and I have the same designer gene Craig has.

 

Do you have a favorite scene of the story?
Yikes. Toughest question of all. I loved the garage scene because it set the tone, and I loved the pond scene for the emotion and tension of it, and then there’s the diner scene and the freedom of it, but for some reason, the scene when Jared wakes up thinking he’s alone, and runs down the stairs in a panic is one that has always resonated with me. I think it’s the vulnerability he shows that makes it stand out to this day. That was only one, right? J

 

Do you have any sneak peeks or future stories you can share with readers?
Crap. My head is so full. I’ve had a lot of requests for Jeremy’s (from CotT) story, and it’s all pretty much written in my head (probably not at all what people are expecting). And then there’s the one about two horse trainers. Yes, I have its title already, but I can’t tell you. There’s also one about a man struggling to hold onto his farm, and another about a man who might or might not be swept downriver in an early spring storm. The most ambitious one floating around in my head takes place on another planet, but after “Morningstar,” it might be too much to take on. Did I mention the vampire with a difference? Yeah, he’s in there too. I also have a story for the ‘Blindsided’ anthology. My main goal though, is to get back to “Cards” and bring it to its close after I finish up “Morningstar.” That’s it… a partial look inside a very crowded head. Cheers.

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Do you have a favorite scene of the story?

Yikes. Toughest question of all. I loved the garage scene because it set the tone, and I loved the pond scene for the emotion and tension of it, and then there’s the diner scene and the freedom of it, but for some reason, the scene when Jared wakes up thinking he’s alone, and runs down the stairs in a panic is one that has always resonated with me. I think it’s the vulnerability he shows that makes it stand out to this day. That was only one, right? J

 

I really enjoyed all of the scenes you've described, but I think my favourite was Craig's confrontation with Carley.  For so many years he'd allowed her to get her way and take the lead, and in that moment he not only stood up for himself, but for the man he loves as well... it also allowed him to take another step out of the grief that consumed him for so long.  It showed amazing growth and strength in his character.  

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I really enjoyed all of the scenes you've described, but I think my favourite was Craig's confrontation with Carley.  For so many years he'd allowed her to get her way and take the lead, and in that moment he not only stood up for himself, but for the man he loves as well... it also allowed him to take another step out of the grief that consumed him for so long.  It showed amazing growth and strength in his character.  

I'm glad you liked that one, Lit. It was exactly as you described... a real watershed moment. Thank you for bringing it up. The scenes with Carly put me through the wringer... his first confrontation with her was ugly, and we saw how black her heart truly was as she hit below the belt, so the next one had the reward you speak of. I can see that being many readers' favorite... :hug:

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I loved the entire story...well, maybe not Carly's horrid behaviour...but what I appreciated most was the communication between Craig and Jared.

 

They listened to each other with both being of strong enough character that they could see past the idea that men are supposed to do things for themselves  -getting help with your troubles is not emasculating. 

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Thanks, Reader. That was a lesson most important for Jared to learn. Every time he opened up, he got stronger. I think it was a little easier for Craig because of having started a life with Harlan, and he knew the importance of communicating. You've brought to mind the scene when they are driving that gets a little heavy (Bailey's room and fish curtains :) ), but before that, the scene in the kitchen about the business, and Craig's role in it, illustrates the importance of Jared opening up, and how it wasn't easy for him. I think we saw Jared make a big step there. I would also include the roadside(Tarzan) scene as another illustration of that communication. :hug:

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Its always good to hear/know about our favorite author. And this is one of my favorite stories and I loved every part of it, other than that cruel si(ni)ster. :angry:

 

That means a lot to read, ha Gary. Congratulations. And Nice interview... ;):thumbup:

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Jared is probably one of my favorite characters from Gary. :) I simply love seeing his journey and growth as a person throughout Treading Water.

 

 

What really clinched it for me was witnessing the love he had for Bailey, even when he found out he wasn't Bailey's biological father, he never stopped thinking of her as his daughter. It just goes to show, that blood doesn't make a family, it's just love.

 

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Yes, Emi, that was a lot of 'mean' to read :(  . It was a lot of 'mean' to write too :) . I'm so pleased to hear it is one of your favorite stories, and thanks for liking the interview... they were great questions by Cia! This story is really special to me. It started out as my entry for the 'Crossing the Line" anthology, but morphed into something that wouldn't be contained. I loved writing it, and I'm very happy with how it all came together. Thank you, my friend for your lovely comments... :hug:

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LOL, Drew, you might want to do a spoiler hide with the last part of that comment.

 

One of the things I admire most about Gary's stories are the perfect titles for chapters and the chapter notes. Do they also come before the writing?

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Thanks, Drew. As I touched on in the interview, there is a vulnerability to Jared he never lost despite the unfair hand he got dealt. He took it all in stride, and put his head down, forging ahead... but he was closing in on his breaking point. That ability to hang in there and still be who he was at his core... well, it speaks to me in a profound way. I'm glad his character does to you too, Drew. I think, although Craig wasn't sure what his reaction would be when he told him, he had no doubt Jared's feelings for Bails wouldn't change. He is and will always be Bailey's daddy, proving as you say, family is about love, not blood. He'd had suspicions right from the beginning about the condom, and yet he did what pleased his grandpa, and when he first saw the photo of Ronnie, it didn't affect how he felt or who he was. That's Jared. Thanks, Drew, for caring about him and this story... :hug:

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LOL, Drew, you might want to do a spoiler hide with the last part of that comment.

 

One of the things I admire most about Gary's stories are the perfect titles for chapters and the chapter notes. Do they also come before the writing?

No, they never do, Tim. They sometimes come during the writing of the chapter, but mostly, they come at the end, after the chapter reveals itself. Most of them come easy, but not always, particularly when I have choices occur to me. If I have trouble coming up with one, I read through the chapter again, and by the end, I have it  :)  Thanks for asking, buddy....

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Loved every chapter of this story and the happy ending for Jared and Craig.  :hug:

Good develloped characters. Even that evil manipulative twin sister character.

For without her there would not be this fine story.

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Loved every chapter of this story and the happy ending for Jared and Craig.  :hug:

Good develloped characters. Even that evil manipulative twin sister character.

For without her there would not be this fine story.

Thank you, NDG. Those characters came alive in my head and bumped all the others down the line, so I'm glad you thought them well developed. Believe it or not, Carly is based on a real person, and yeah, without her there would have been no story. Thank you for taking the time to make the lovely comments... cheers... :hug:

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Something else I like about your characters, Gary, is that while they may be emotional and romantic and even a bit slow to figure things out :lol: , they are also intelligent and use their minds to deal with matters of the heart. Even when they do things which make us :facepalm: it is still believable and logical story-wise, and you never drag it out into absurdity. They actually communicate rather than constantly second-guessing what the other part is thinking.

Even your teens are amazingly mature and level-headed and I love that. :heart:

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Yes, Emi, that was a lot of 'mean' to read :(  . It was a lot of 'mean' to write too :) .

 

Oops! :blushing: Fixed it!

 

 

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Even your teens are amazingly mature and level-headed and I love that. :heart:

Most of the time. :P Then again it isn't really a surprise to see Nate being immature (in a good way) when he's with Michael... I swear those two turn into little kids when they are in the same room. :lol:

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Something else I like about your characters, Gary, is that while they may be emotional and romantic and even a bit slow to figure things out :lol: , they are also intelligent and use their minds to deal with matters of the heart. Even when they do things which make us :facepalm: it is still believable and logical story-wise, and you never drag it out into absurdity. They actually communicate rather than constantly second-guessing what the other part is thinking.

Even your teens are amazingly mature and level-headed and I love that. :heart:

It's so nice to hear you say that, Tim. I try never to do drama for drama's sake. It frustrates me as a reader, so I never want to write it. My characters may not act the way we want sometimes, but they always behave the way I believe their character would (Yes, I especially think that about Tobyn's behavior  :)  ). As a writer, you know these characters are real people to us, and for me, when they step out of that character, I can't accept it. I KNOW them, and I'll weather any storm to keep them true to what I believe them to be. And that applies to my younger characters as well. Thank you for this... It means a lot... :hug:

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Most of the time. :P Then again it isn't really a surprise to see Nate being immature (in a good way) when he's with Michael... I swear those two turn into little kids when they are in the same room. :lol:

Yes, I love it when I can write Nate full of life and fun. Especially after what he went through. And Michael? Well, he really is a great big kid, isn't he? I love that man's sense of humor. Josh, though, is a young character who showed his immaturity in how he acted, but it was an understandable course for him to initially take. He's growing up fast too... because he has to... thanks, buddy, for bringing Nate up... :hug:

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Loved Treading Water!  

 

So, do the chapter titles come after, or is that also something you know going in? 

 

The chapter Touching Bottom was for me very moving. Jared totally opened up to Craig and they kept themselves be vulnerable and honest with each other, in a way they hadn't before. So honest in fact that Craig had a little Freudian slip..(something about bottoms) lol... 

Anyway, chapter too represented what I love about your writing. You allow your men, mature, smart, warts and all, to be in touch with their feelings and they communicate, and it does not diminish them at all..  So refreshing. (Should we send them to visit Kellar &Tobyn) 

 

Im looking forward to seeing every one of those pieces inside your head come alive on the page.. 

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So, do the chapter titles come after, or is that also something you know going in? 

 

So honest in fact that Craig had a little Freudian slip..(something about bottoms) lol... 

 

Hey Def, we had the same question about chapter titles, so check out Gary's reply to me.

LOL, I loved that Freudian slip too. :D

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Loved Treading Water!  

 

So, do the chapter titles come after, or is that also something you know going in? 

 

The chapter Touching Bottom was for me very moving. Jared totally opened up to Craig and they kept themselves be vulnerable and honest with each other, in a way they hadn't before. So honest in fact that Craig had a little Freudian slip..(something about bottoms) lol... 

Anyway, chapter too represented what I love about your writing. You allow your men, mature, smart, warts and all, to be in touch with their feelings and they communicate, and it does not diminish them at all..  So refreshing. (Should we send them to visit Kellar &Tobyn) 

 

Im looking forward to seeing every one of those pieces inside your head come alive on the page.. 

Thank you, Def! No, as I said to Tim, they come after the chapter is written... sometimes during, but mostly after.

I'm pleased at how you feel about the Touching Bottom chapter. The honesty of it was beautiful for me to write. These are men who are both treading water, and they need each other, and the courage they display had me emotional more than a few times. Lol... the Freudian slip... yeah, that was fun... for all of us but Craig... but even then, it made Jared laugh so it was worth it to him. I appreciate what you say about my characters. Men who slide into roles they THINK they should play don't interest me. I like men who are real... who aren't afraid to feel. I'm so glad you find that refreshing, Def. As far as Tobyn and Kellar, new chapter coming up, and, well... you'll see hehe. And there are a lot more people in my head than I admitted to... I doubt I will live long enough to tell ALL their stories, but I'll try... thanks for this, my friend... :hug:

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Missed the fun as usual.

 

But, I had to drop in and say, I love all Gary's stories, and cannot wait to see what else his intriguing imagination comes up with in the future. :hug:

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