Ugh, my mom's boyfriend is like that, I usually end up just rapidly changing the subject whenever he gets into a spiel.

I LOVE the D&G ad even though I have absolutely NO idea what specific product they are trying to sell, and I could care less. I think it was a great ad to run.

I'll pick your mom up and take her out to lunch... and then I'll take her for a complimentary "removal of head from assectomy" that comes free with every meal with Viv...

Seriously, I know she pisses you off, and I *KNOW* it hurts you... but she's not got it all together when it comes to this subject, and one day when she says "Kids shouldnt be subjected to that..." you can tell her that I would "subject" my kids to it EVERY day for the opportunity to know that my kids know that it's okay to love who you want to love and to show that person how you feel.

Also, one of these days when she's saying that shit, which it is, and is trying to argue with you about it, and you say to her, "So, I guess what I'm hearing is that you think I'm sick and that no children should ever be subjected to me, and that I don't deserve the right to love whomever I choose to love and spend my life with? Is that really what you think of me?"

And I know the answer terrifies you, but if she says the wrong thing, she's gonna have me inher living room telling her what a total moron she is and there's room here in my house with my kids who I'd gladly subject to you daily...

I love you, Steve, and I think you're a fantastic man... and I think, she does, too. She's just afraid and confused and needs to figure out what's important and right here, and I can't think of a better man to teach her how confused and ridiculous she is.

Love,

Your Doll

If I go to hell, I'm getting there early enough to get a suite, not a seat.....so I can entertain all the 'hot' gay dudes.

7th circle, inner ring ... see you there ... particularly since the "sodomotes" get to walk around on the burning sand in "groups" ... can you say ORGY in HELL

:king: Dr. Mr. Snow "Snoopy" Dog

OH, and if I get the teaching position in CA you can live with me instead of her

Ouch...

Sorry that happened, Steve.

Ugh, I don't know what else to say except that a good retort for "the bible says so" is to demand "where". Interestingly, I find that shuts up around half of claimants. "Leviticus" is the usual answer from the rest, and that can open up some great fun

when you ask questions about some of Leviticus's more colorful pronouncements, such as it being okay to own slaves, provided they are from neighboring nations. Or that the eaters of shellfish are accursed before god? (God Hates Shrimp!). And what to do about a blind or crippled man who enters a church. If we believe Leviticus, should we stone them to death, or would a simple burning at the stake suffice?

(he does call them an abomination, after all). Remember, the only claim they can make regarding literal interpretation is that dietary laws no longer apply (dang, there goes God Hates Shrimp) but little gems like the slavery issue and the blind or crippled being abominations aren't dietary. Those who claim that Leviticus' "moral laws" still apply need to take a close look at those issues. There's also the larger issue of anyone seeking to impose their religious beliefs on others: That's always wrong, and you can always name the most famous person who has that philosophy. a man by the name of Osama Bin Laden.

It's also fun to throw in the bit from the new testament where Paul says that if you're circumcised you're Jewish.

Exposing the claimant's ignorance of the biblical laws they themselves are referring to is a wonderful opening to suggest that they should pound on the good book a little less, and instead, actually read it on occasion. (If they are going to cite it, it behoves them to at least have a clue what they're talking about).

Sorry for rambling, but I live in an area where I get confronted by "biblical claims" a LOT. Grrrr.

This probably doesn;t help you with your mother, and I wish I could think of something that would.

Best Wishes,

CJ