[DomLuka] TLW 29

[Davey]

OK so its a cheap shot but im desprate.Each time we put a forum on here for a new chapter Dom puts out his new chapter. Im hoping it will work this weekend........

 

 

 

Heres hoping!

 

Love dave xxx

[Kat]

awww you got me all excited, i thought Dom updated

 

But hopefully your idea works

 

.:Kat:.

[Trebs]

"Bad, bad, bad man" - From DK

 

"Heck - if it works, woot!" - From Trebs

[Jay]

I could be wrong but I don't think that Dom has posted anything anywhere on GA since his blog entry on the 27th. I hope he's not still sick.

[Caliboy]

No, Jay, you're right. Nothing from Dom since 5/27, when he wasn't feeling well. I'm hoping everything is going great, and that Dom hasn't posted in a while only because the writing bug bit him repeatedly, causing him to write Chapters 29-35 of TLW (which he's decided to continue ad infinitum), and the next 5 or 6 chapters of TOU and DD, all of which will be posted daily over the next several weeks.

 

And, hoping he's been enjoying life and giving the s/o lots of love....

Edited June 5, 2005 by Caliboy

[Tim]

I loved this chapter. Issues are being addressed between Nicky and Owen.

 

It makes one come away with a good feeling!

[Caliboy]

"OK so its a cheap shot but im desperate.Each time we put a forum on here for a new chapter Dom puts out his new chapter. Im hoping it will work this weekend........"

 

 

It worked!!!!!!! Good job, Dave - let's try this again next week.

 

And what an incredible chapter. Looks like Owen is finally learning a few important lessons about communication, and trust. And Nicky and Lacy.....hmmm, could there be another couple in the making?

 

Great work, Dom!

 

[Davey]

Im sooo happy just now, What a great chapter. I really hoped creating the thread would tempt fate and I guess it did

 

One more chapter to go can't wait already!

[lagomorph]

Thanks, Dave! Er, and Dom, too, obviously. I needed something to break the Sunday blahs.

 

Val

[NaperVic]

What a great Chapter 29. Not only did we get a thorough explanation about Nicky, but it was nice to see that Owen was integrating the good parts of his 'old' life with his new life.

 

The entire chapter seemed very believable: from Aiden's jealousy to Nicky's straight guy ways.

 

For grins, I re-read the thread the log way Ch. 28 and it was fascinating to read some of the predictions. Several people were pretty close, but there some predictions from members who would one day be great soap opera writers .

 

Thanks Dom for a pleasant chapter to read. I'm finally at one with the idea that TLW will be ending.

 

Vic

[Caliboy]

 

I wasn't going to mention this (because I am one of the most humble people I've ever met), but now that you mention it Vic I did make some stunningly accurate predictions. Consider, for example:

 

1) Will A/O be physically intimate in TLW 29? Prediction - of course, they're 17, for heaven's sake, but we won't get as much detail this time.

 

Right! They were, right at the end! And we didn't get as much detail!

 

2) Will Nicky and Owen reconcile? Prediction - Yes, Nicky has been desparately looking for Owen ever since Owen disappeared on him, and is pissed that Owen has not attempted to contact him. Owen will end up feeling foolish. Aiden and Nicky will end up liking each other, after a rocky introduction when Aiden steps in to protect his b/f.

 

Right on! Aiden and Nicky really start to bond at the end.

 

3) Will Valentine pee on Mrs Chesely's carpet? Prediction - of course, but Dom won't tell us about this. Maybe this will become a 'loose end'.

 

Right again! She peed on the carpet, and Dom didn't tell us about it!

 

4) Will Adam pretend that O/A don't exist when he sees them in school? Prediction - No, but he won't act too friendly either. This will be a 'loose end'.

 

Right! Although this happens actually in Chapter 30.

 

5) Will we find out what Mrs Knightly talked to Aiden about last night for 45 minutes? Prediction - Yes.

 

Right again! Dom decided to put this in Chapter 30 too.

 

6) Will TLW 29.1 end with a cliffhanger? Yes, although not a major one.

 

It did!

 

7) Will the Dennis/Reilly relationship be resolved in TLW29? Prediction - No, this will be another 'loose end'.

 

Righto!

 

8) Will Owen get a green bean casserole for his birthday? Prediction - this will be another loose end.

 

Yep!

 

9) Will there be any intersection between TLW and the other 2 Dom Epics (TOU, DD)? Prediction - Yes.

 

I meant in the future of course, so another gold star!

 

 

Can I read Dom's mind, or what? I'll make some more predictions for the next chapter if Dave promises to start the TLW-30 thread later in the week, just to make sure Dom does post the chapter before next weekend.

 

:king:

[Tim]

For grins, I re-read the thread  the log way Ch. 28 and it was fascinating to read some of the predictions.  Several people were pretty close, but there some predictions from members who would one day be great soap opera writers  .

 

 

 

Vic

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Idle minds will wander!

 

I knew that many of my prediction were way out there. But, I did that for a reason!

[NaperVic]

I'll make some more predictions for the next chapter if Dave promises to start the TLW-30 thread later in the week, just to make sure Dom does post the chapter before next weekend.

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Sanctions! Sanctions for the next person who titles a thread with a chapter number that hasn't actually been posted!!!!! :2hands: :mace:

 

Maybe as punishment, we can prevent that person (read JC or DaveScott) from reading the chapter for 48 hours after it does finally get posted

[Rocketcnj]

Im sooo happy just now, What a great chapter. I really hoped creating the thread would tempt fate and I guess it did

 

One more chapter to go can't wait already!

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Dave...thanks for bringing us good luck:) You are the best! BTW if anyone reads Dom's blog he thought he had posted TLW Ch 29 a week ago but was ill and didn't realize he hadn't...he said life and work and such got to him.......add to that and meds and being sick....and the poor guy realized he didn't do it and thought he had...how many times have we all done that...but Dave, your good works and post brought us good luck and an amazing chapter....so you get my major respect and admiration..your efforts worked. However, before I get flamed for associating wanting good karma to produce a chapter I will say that I am glad all of your and our DomaLuka good thoughts and good karma sent to Dom for his healthy recovery and for all of us wanting him well and in hopes for Ch 29 being posted soon worked!!!

 

Hey, positive vibes and energy..its all good:)

 

Rainbow Hugs and Hershey Kisses and Rainbow Jelly Beans and per Dom's blog he has new stories waiting for us too......after he wraps up Ch 30....which appears to be the last chapter for TOU..but I am happy since he has planned new works..I know that is cross threading but its the good vibes of Ch 29 that are making me smile....and Matt also said he is working on his stories. Meg said after her graduation we can see another chapter of Flames on Ice...so all in all...a major Rainbow Festival of DomaLuka pride in honor of Gay Pride this month..yipeee all the way around!!

 

Michael

Edited June 6, 2005 by Rocketcnj

[Masked Monkey]

Sanctions! Sanctions for the next person who titles a thread with a chapter number that hasn't actually been posted!!!!! :2hands: :mace:

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As Emperor, such transgressions (unless comitted by high-ranking Imperial officials) would be dealt with swiftly through overwhelming public humiliation, and perhaps a visit from Andy .

 

Snow Dog

[lurker]

Sanctions! Sanctions for the next person who titles a thread with a chapter number that hasn't actually been posted!!!!! :2hands: :mace:

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As Emperor, such transgressions (unless comitted by high-ranking Imperial officials) would be dealt with swiftly through overwhelming public humiliation, and perhaps a visit from Andy .

 

Snow Dog

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Uhm, that's FUTURE Emperor - well, at least in some future timeline. The Senate has not been disbanded yet.

 

Sheesh. Give the guy a birthday, and he starts making all these assumptions...

[Masked Monkey]

As Emperor, such transgressions (unless comitted by high-ranking Imperial officials) would be dealt with swiftly through overwhelming public humiliation, and perhaps a visit from Andy .

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Uhm, that's FUTURE Emperor - well, at least in some future timeline. The Senate has not been disbanded yet.

 

Sheesh. Give the guy a birthday, and he starts making all these assumptions...

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I'm sorry I think you missed the operative word 'would' in the above quote. Can't you tell a campaing promise when you see one?

 

:king: Snow Dog

[NaperVic]

After what happened in Chapter 29, Owen's at a great place right now. He's got his loving bf Aiden and now Nicky is back in his life. Not only did Owen suffer without having his best-friend, but apparently Nicky did too. Nicky seemed to isolate himself in highschool and was also having family troubles. Hopefully being reunited with Owen will help Nicky in his life.

 

I agree with many here that stories are so much more believable when all the characters aren't gay (although the mental image of Nicky, Owen, and Aiden having a threeway still gets me hot!). Nicky would be a great addition to Owen's new circle. Nicky and Ryan can workout together, Nicky and Lacy can date one another, and Nicky being around will keep Aiden on his toes and make him more passionate/possessive of Owen (like he did right at the end of Chapter 29).

 

I also believe that this chapter gives us some insight into Brad and Quinn's relationship in TOU. Some believed that Quinn would never say the word 'f*g' because he was closeted, but as Nicky pointed out to Owen, 'you were more homophobic than anyone I knew'. Young adolescent straight guys and their closeted best friends do say stuff like that.

 

Now I just wonder what will happen in Chapter 30 and what issues will be closed. Since this is more about Owen, will there be closure with his folks (either by them confronting each other, or just Owen coming to the realization that he doesn't need them anymore)? Will there be closure with Dennis the menace (or will that be saved for a future story)?

 

Vic the Domaholic

[Masked Monkey]

although the mental image of Nicky, Owen, and Aiden having a threeway still gets me hot!)

 

Vic the Domaholic

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This was my biggest problem throughout the entire chapter. It was frustrating because I kept wanting it to happen, but knew that it wouldn't. Maybe we can bribe Dom into giving us a 'fantasy' chapter .

 

I think Nicky has a harder time than Owen. They both thought that their best friend abandoned them, but Owen had friends and family to support him with his problems, both before and after he came out of his shell (and out of the closet). Nicky didn't have anyone. Owen had lots of holes in his heart and lots of people who wanted to fill them. Nicky had one hole in his heart and only one person could fill it. Growing up, Nicky stuck to Owen because he thought that Owen would always stick by him. In his mind, Owen was the brother that Nicky never had, and becuase Nicky is not part of the emotional 'rainbow' crowd, he was never able to tell Owen what he needed. Owen was too wrapped up in his own life to see that Nicky might exist as a person with feelings outside of his desire.

 

Unfortunately, I don't see things as coming out as happy for Nicky as for Owen. Yes, they will have each other in their lives, and next weekend Nicky will be spending a lot of time there. This will either do really good or really bad things for the Aiden/Nicky friendship (and maybe a 3-way ). I don't see Nicky moving in with Chris/Owen/Aiden, I see him having to go back to his own life, but now having Owen back in it to some extent. Nicky will be happy for his best friend, but Owen has grown up and away from Nicky, and there are some things you just can't get back.

 

As difficult as Owen's feelings of unrequited love (lust) for Nicky were, Nicky's feelings of unrequited brotherhood/kinship for Owen were just as, if not more difficult. Owen knew that Nicky would never return his feelings, Nicky always thought that Owen did and was completely lost when Owen just disappeared on him. Owen's emotional pain comes from accepting the loss of parents that he always knew wouldn't accept him. What Owen is losing is the hope that his parents will one day accept and love him for who he is, but he is surrounded by the love of friends, and family who care about him and won't leave him. Nicky lost a brother to the realization that Owen never thought of himself as Nicky's brother -- Owen has his own brothers and doesn't need Nicky that way.

 

The hole in Nicky's heart cannot be mended in one chapter (except for a 3-way), and he isn't in a place to be able to try. Nicky still can't deal with emotion, and his family situation is not going to help. To top it off, regardless of what Owen says, Nicky has to believe that Owen has a full life and doesn't really need him anymore. Owen has his brothers back, new and cool friends, and a bf that he obviously adores. Yea, Nicky will be improtant to Owen and Nicky will always be his best friend growing up, but Owen has gone on without Nicky. Nicky can't follow Owen's path and has yet to find his own .

 

(future) Emperor Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

[Conner]

I think Nicky has a harder time than Owen.  They both thought that their best friend abandoned them, but Owen had friends and family to support him with his problems, both before and after he came out of his shell (and out of the closet).  Nicky didn't have anyone.  Owen had lots of holes in his heart and lots of people who wanted to fill them.  Nicky had one hole in his heart and only one person could fill it.  Growing up, Nicky stuck to Owen because he thought that Owen would always stick by him.  In his mind, Owen was the brother that Nicky never had, and becuase Nicky is not part of the emotional 'rainbow' crowd, he was never able to tell Owen what he needed.  Owen was too wrapped up in his own life to see that Nicky might exist as a person with feelings outside of his desire.

 

Unfortunately, I don't see things as coming out as happy for Nicky as for Owen.  Yes, they will have each other in their lives, and next weekend Nicky will be spending a lot of time there.  This will either do really good or really bad things for the Aiden/Nicky friendship (and maybe a 3-way ).  I don't see Nicky moving in with Chris/Owen/Aiden, I see him having to go back to his own life, but now having Owen back in it to some extent.  Nicky will be happy for his best friend, but Owen has grown up and away from Nicky, and there are some things you just can't get back.

 

As difficult as Owen's feelings of unrequited love (lust) for Nicky were, Nicky's feelings of unrequited brotherhood/kinship for Owen were just as, if not more difficult.  Owen knew that Nicky would never return his feelings, Nicky always thought that Owen did and was completely lost when Owen just disappeared on him.  Owen's emotional pain comes from accepting the loss of parents that he always knew wouldn't accept him. What Owen is losing is the hope that his parents will one day accept and love him for who he is, but he is surrounded by the love of friends, and family who care about him and won't leave him.  Nicky lost a brother to the realization that Owen never thought of himself as Nicky's brother -- Owen has his own brothers and doesn't need Nicky that way.

 

The hole in Nicky's heart cannot be mended in one chapter (except for a 3-way), and he isn't in a place to be able to try.  Nicky still can't deal with emotion, and his family situation is not going to help.  To top it off, regardless of what Owen says, Nicky has to believe that Owen has a full life and doesn't really need him anymore.  Owen has his brothers back, new and cool friends, and a bf that he obviously adores.  Yea, Nicky will be improtant to Owen and Nicky will always be his best friend growing up, but Owen has gone on without Nicky.  Nicky can't follow Owen's path and has yet to find his own  .

 

(future) Emperor Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

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Hey there, Snow Dog. Do I sense a soft spot (hard spot??) for the strong, silent, straight guy type?

 

I don't disagree with what you had to say, be it ever so depressing, as it is a very plausible outcome. However, being part of the Rainbow Revolution (anyone need jellybeans?), I have set my sights just a tad higher on the "...and they lived happily ever after." scale.

 

Nicky's circumstances sure did go sour following Owen's departure - no doubt about it. Owen's failure to speak with him before he left most certainly contributed to those circumstances. Nicky's punch to Owen's midsection was only half 'game' - the other half was Nicky's feelings of anger caused by his perceived abandonment. Nicky admitted he was pissed because he saw that Owen was happy

[vision]

Unfortunately, I don't see things as coming out as happy for Nicky as for Owen.  Yes, they will have each other in their lives, and next weekend Nicky will be spending a lot of time there.  This will either do really good or really bad things for the Aiden/Nicky friendship (and maybe a 3-way  ).  I don't see Nicky moving in with Chris/Owen/Aiden, I see him having to go back to his own life, but now having Owen back in it to some extent.  Nicky will be happy for his best friend, but Owen has grown up and away from Nicky, and there are some things you just can't get back

 

I actually think that Nicky and Owen are closer now than ever, Owen said Nicky hadn't changed, sure Owen has however he's being the real Owen now, not the closet case, and so far it seems Nicky is getting along with Owen better than ever. It's likely that Nicky is more certifable as a part in Owen's future than Aiden, after all boyfriends come and go, friends as close as they are rarely lose touch. I don't think Nicky is nearly as hurt emotionally by all this as you think, if anything he seems rather like me, lets in the good stuff and blocks out the bad, except for a little angryness. His parents and their divorce doesn't seem to have had much effect on him and he seems rather resilient. I'm actually glad to see Dom write a character that isn't so fragile

I do agree that Nicky won't be moving in with Chris, Owen and Aiden....yet. If I remember correctly Tony is going to college/university, and being a small town I'm guessing it's in town or close by, so I don't think it's hard to guess where Nicky will end up when they finish high school, after all he doesn't have that much left for him in his town, it seems the only thing he's wanted is to be around Owen. As for Nicky fitting in I think he'd have no problems at all, he likes Lacy, and Ryan, has Owen, Chris and Tony who he knows, and despite his differences with Aiden, I think he's glad Owen has him.

 

Talon

[NaperVic]

So I believe the Owen-Nicky relationship will flourish. 

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Shoot me, shoot me now.

 

I'm going to have to agree with Conner on this. Although they won't live a few houses down from each other, their friendship will grow stronger. Nicky has shown that his friendship isn't bothered by the 'gay' thing and Owen is finally able to be 100% truthful with Nicky.

 

While the friendship will flourish, there will be tension. Nicky was always Owen's first love and those feelings just can't be turned off. Sure, the regular sex that Aiden will provide will be a distraction, but the feelings will still be there (and no, Owen won't act on them knowing that Nicky is straight).

 

And while Aiden will be the 'supportive' BF, he can't help but be jealous and hate Nicky. All the interaction between Aiden and Nicky has been not so friendly. They'll be civil to each other for Owen's sake, but I don't see Aiden and Nicky hanging out alone together. There will be a begrudging respect for each other, but they are still and will always be rivals for Owen's affection/attention.

 

Vic the Domaholic

[NaperVic]

It's likely that Nicky is more certifable as a part in Owen's future than Aiden, after all boyfriends come and go, friends as close as they are rarely lose touch.

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boyfriends come and go?

 

Owen and Aiden will be together forever Talon!

 

Vic the Domaholic

[Masked Monkey]

I don't think Nicky is nearly as hurt emotionally by all this as you think, if anything he seems rather like me, lets in the good stuff and blocks out the bad, except for a little angryness. His parents and their divorce doesn't seem to have had much effect on him and he seems rather resilient. I'm actually glad to see Dom write a character that isn't so fragile 

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I agree that Mr. Luka has not shown us Nicky's 'fragile' nature, but it is obvious based on his choices. It is Owen's nature that is not fragile, granted, he may not have the wisdom and maturity to understand just how strong he is and how much others need him. Even when Owen was trying to 'isolate' himself after moving in with Tony and Chris, he still met new people and hung out with them, even if only at school. Nicky collapsed psycologically, he refused to accept that Owen wasn't there and get on with his life. He shuns anyone who says he should, and all of his experience with intimate relationships tells him that nothing lasts. Even now that he has Owen back, he really doesn't. YES, Owen has a place in his life, and Nicky will have a place in Owen's life, but it won't be the same for Nicky, not because Owen is gay, but because Nicky lost something. Nicky lost the belief that Owen felt the same way about their 'brotherhood' that he did. Once a belief is lost, it is hard (if not impossible) to get back.

 

As far as Nicky's anger, remember that anger is not an emotion, it is a response to an emotion, and it is society that connects anger to violence. Anger allows us to function without having to deal with the emotion, and violence teaches someone else not to make us feel the emotion that resulted in anger. The best gift my parents ever gave me was the lack of connection between violence and anger. I had to learn about the connection theoretically and see it in practice to really understand it.

 

(future) Emperor Snow Dog the Lukaholic Danderthal

[sat8997]

Shoot me, shoot me now.

 

I'm going to have to agree with Conner on this. 

 

Hey Vic....Where do you want that truck load of jelly beans delivered to???

 

Sharon

 

(Sorry - it was just too easy)