NaperVic Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) What a great chapter! It was nice and long with lots of tidbits. I can't believe Brad called Quinn a Fudgepacker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And then threw soapy water at Quinn! I'll have to re-read a few more times to get the full effect, but this was a doosie! Vic the Domaholic Edited August 31, 2005 by naper_vic
Tim1001 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 omg omg omg poor Quinn and people wonder why some gays prefer the closet
Trebs Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Ok - two quick thoughts... 1) What if Brad IS also gay - and mainly pissed at Quinn that he's got someone else? The "fudgepacker" comment may be partially directed at himself... it would explain some of his recent actions. 2) If so - what happens when Marissa finds out that BOTH of her ex-boyfriends play for the other team?
viv Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Ok, let me just say this... WOW!!! Unreal how many times I will be shocked that AGAIN I have been surprised by Dom and his amazing stories. I will say that the thought did occur to me that Brad was gay, but I am thinking now that he is just worried about his own reputation... that when everyone finds out about Quinn, they will assume he is gay as well. I don't know... As for Bree, I hope that she sees the picture of Quinn and Jude kissing in the journal, and sees true love and backs off a bit... again the romantic in me... But, yay for Quinn for finally opening up and for still being there for Bree even when he is worried about his own stuff... just shows you even with all his hangups, he is still a sweet guy who Jude sees something good in... Thanks Dom, Vivian
Tim1001 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 i honestly hope Brad is just going through some stuff and not becoming one of the people i absolutely despised growing up..if he too is gay, that would be too simple, and i dont think Dom would do that to us..plus theres the whole double dates Brad wanted to go on, where he was REALLY wanting to score, and seriously pissed at Quin for ruining it for him...
NaperVic Posted August 31, 2005 Author Posted August 31, 2005 I thought this line from Bree was interesting: "There are two things I don
Masked Monkey Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I thought this line from Bree was interesting: "There are two things I don
Bao Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) lol i agree with vic maybe that dom is foreshadowing somthing about the mom. and this chapter really scared me. it looks like a prelude to the end. T_T i reall dont want it to end *cough*sequel *cough*. and maybe brad is gay cause didnt quinn say earlier in the story that he and brad touched his cousins penis when they were younger. or was that part of his dream. O_o mar scares me. and how come no one talked about taylor. he seems like hes going to play a big part soon. O_o brad and taylor? AHAHHA that would be HOTT!!!!!! Edited August 31, 2005 by Bao
Ryandy Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I have the feelings that Quinn's mom already knew that he is gay, remember the process of tearing up Quinn's door? i think she already read Quinn's diary by then. and then in this chapter she start talking about girl to Quinn all the sudden? I think she is just pretending n giving Quinn chances to change his mind by all efforts, even by quitting her job. Who would have guess that? I hope that I am wrong bout that. this chapter is amazing and driving me crazy to know the story for the next chapter. GOOD WORK DOM, U R THE BEST
Anoni Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) Another great chapter full of all the things we love. I wonder what is happening with Brad that would have such a strong impact on him though. Especially if his mother is fine like Quinn's mom says. There has to be something else happening for him to have not slept in three days. Having your best friend come out is a big deal, but I don't think of it as one of those 'keep obsessing for 3 days, avoid him, and not sleep' things. I don't think Brad is gay. Maybe Brad always had a thing for Marissa and is mad that Quinn always had her but never wanted her. Brad's reaction really annoys me. He could have given Quinn another warning to back off or otherwise made it clear that he needed space. Quinn showed an amazing level of trust and openness in making Brad the only person he told his biggest secret to and Brad is not really thinking about that at all. Quinn is also not thinking at all about what Brad could be going through to make his life be bad at the moment. I think handing his diary to Bree was a good move since she will be able to see what he went through from his point of view. After this I think she will be a good support for Quinn in the comming chapter(s). I bet she will even play a role in getting Jude and Quinn back together after their troubles. **How could no one mention that he stood up Jude?!?** Quinn seems to have the attention span of a gold fish. One second making plans and the next forgetting everything. I am suprised no one else said anything to remind him either. Definately some rocky times coming up for those two. I just know Quinn will say the wrong things to him when they meet up next. It is finally comming time for him to reassure Jude and he is really up to a bad start. I think Quinn needs to stop being so selfish and really start thinking about how others depend on him as well. He will definately need to be doing something special to make up for it soon. I know he wouldn't have fit in earlier at any point, but I am a bit sad that Taylor is starting to evolve so late into the series. I just know Dom is going to make me like him and then everything will be over. Edited August 31, 2005 by Anoni
Lucy Kemnitzer Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Brad has been awake for a couple of days and his excessive responsibility isn't over for two more days, and Quinn has not been available to help him out, not even to make jokes and make him feel better. Brad can be excused for being pissed off and uncool. Everybody has times when they are a mess and say things they shouldn't. So -- Taylor's an orphan too, right? Does he know Quinn's dad is dead? Why hasn't he made a connection with him over this -- because he still doesn't trust Quinn? Because he clearly doesn't, and it's getting to him -- the things Quinn was saying at lunch weren't that bad, just awkward. Quinn didn't forget about his date with Jude -- he thinks about it, and thinks that Jude would agree that it's time to get things straight with Bree. I hope my suspicions about Mom are not correct: she seems really fragile, to be shedding a tear at the very mention of her husband sixteen years later.
pep Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Another great chapter full of all the things we love. **How could no one mention that he stood up Jude?!?** Quinn seems to have the attention span of a gold fish. One second making plans and the next forgetting everything. I am suprised no one else said anything to remind him either. Definately some rocky times coming up for those two. I just know Quinn will say the wrong things to him when they meet up next. It is finally comming time for him to reassure Jude and he is really up to a bad start. I think Quinn needs to stop being so selfish and really start thinking about how others depend on him as well. He will definately need to be doing something special to make up for it soon. I have to agree with lucy. Quinn didn't forget his date with Jude at first, since he was gonna call him about the talk with Bree. But seeing Brad and wanting to talk to him for so long, he went over the moment he saw fit to do so. In the event that happend, Brad beeing mad and throwing the water at him, I don't think it is difficult to forget some things. I think he was shocked at these actions and he found a way to ventilate them in restarting his diary. In doing so, he completly lost track of time until Bree came to call him for dinner. I think Jude will understand, but it will depend on the way Dom will let Quinn explain this to Jude.
TheZot Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 So -- Taylor's an orphan too, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doubt it. Don't forget, he tried to commit suicide at some point -- my bet is that he's got the sort of parents one wants to leave dead in a ditch.
TheZot Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I can't believe Brad called Quinn a Fudgepacker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And then threw soapy water at Quinn! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Makes sense, really. Brad's under a lot of stress, what with his mother's troublesome pregnancy and his best friend going insane for the past month or so, then said best friend (one who's ben more than a little homophobic in the past) drops a pretty big bomb. I'm not surprised he's pissed. Hell, even if he's just fine with Quinn's being gay he's got good reason to be really mad. And all things considered even if he's fine with Quinn being gay he may well still not be fine with Quinn because of the deceit. One of those "I'm fine with you being gay, I just don't like you very much any more" things.
Conner Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 That was quite the chapter. I'm really proud of Quinn. He's now much more engaged in dealing with his orientation. He's finally in the driver's seat. I liked his closing comment to Myers in the opening scene, "You can
Ryushi Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Ok - two quick thoughts... 1) What if Brad IS also gay - and mainly pissed at Quinn that he's got someone else? The "fudgepacker" comment may be partially directed at himself... it would explain some of his recent actions. 2) If so - what happens when Marissa finds out that BOTH of her ex-boyfriends play for the other team? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would honestly make my day. I like Marissa and all, but she reminds me far too much a few certain girls I happen do know. And such a situation would not only explain Brad's explosive fits, but make us Brad-lovers very happy.
Anoni Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I think Jude will understand, but it will depend on the way Dom will let Quinn explain this to Jude. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry if it sounded like I thought Quinn didn't show up on purpose. This is what I think wont happen though. Jude would be understanding of Quinn needing time to sort out himself logically, but I doubt Quinn will be able to explain that to him.
sat8997 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 [sorry if it sounded like I thought Quinn didn't show up on purpose. This is what I think wont happen though. Jude would be understanding of Quinn needing time to sort out himself logically, but I doubt Quinn will be able to explain that to him. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sure he will. Quinn might not be the 'Great Communicator' but he's always been able to talk with Jude. Sharon
Mark Arbour Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Ok - two quick thoughts... 1) What if Brad IS also gay - and mainly pissed at Quinn that he's got someone else?
Bao Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 lol i agree with mark about every one being gay. but still brad and taylor..... lol any ways.
Masked Monkey Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I don't want Brad to be gay simply because I can enjoy the fantasy of the str8 best friend threesome that I was deprived of in TLW. :king: Snow Dog
fatboyfat Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I thought this line from Bree was interesting: "There are two things I don’t understand here, Quinn. I mean, the fact that you thought I could figure out you were gay just because Jude was is... stupid. I mean, you talk about me telling mom, but you’re the one who’s always been most like her when it comes to this kind of stuff. So, I don’t understand how you could have had those beliefs all this time and then turn out...gay. And the second thing... I don’t understand why you’d think that you couldn’t tell me." So Bree was under the impression that Quinn 'had those beliefs all this time and then turn out...gay.'. That appears to mean that Quinn has been homophobic or made homophobic comments in the past and was generally negative towards gays. Vic the Domaholic <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When I was in denial about my sexuality I made lots of homophobic comments, and used the word gay as a general cuss word - like when something broke or didn't work properly I would say "that's gay". In fact I did it so much, that I know I passed the habit onto two of my flatmates... something I very much regret now that I have to face coming out to them. I stopped using the word in that fashion around when I came out to myself, but they are still using it. I'm led to believe that this sort of thing is very common with deep in the closet gays, and you know there's always people who say that the worst homophobes are really gay men in denial! Cheers, Neil
Bao Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 i was never in a closet and i still use gay as a cuss word. whens the next TOU chapter out lol.
Bender Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I never had problems with my sexuality because my parents always taught me to think for myself and never let anyone tell me my opinions are wrong. I must say that I am very proud of Quinn because he is slowly but surely removing his head from his ass. Now if only Brad would do the same. -psychic psychopath (I can't think of anything to follow my name this time!)
Masked Monkey Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 I never had problems with my sexuality because my parents always taught me to think for myself and never let anyone tell me my opinions are wrong. I must say that I am very proud of Quinn because he is slowly but surely removing his head from his ass. Now if only Brad would do the same. -psychic psychopath (I can't think of anything to follow my name this time!) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like the way this kid thinks :king: Snow Dog P.S. Never let them tell you that you are crazy because you don't agree with them. Make sure that they know the real reasons they should call you crazy.
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