How can u attract a straight guy and make him fall for you?

[methodwriter85]

See, in the Nifty stories, though, it's always that the straight guy turns gay, falls for you, then you two move in together and adopt children while getting married in some state that accepts gay marriage. So that's where the Nifty Gay Man's Cinderella Effect failed you. LOL.

[Tara00]

Like some of them have said here, straight guys do fall for other guys occasionally (mainly in stories)

But the thing is, you can not choose that straight guy. You can't first fall for a straight guy and then expect him to like you back. It could happen naturally but the chances are so slim that they are near to non-existing.

 

And baby, there are so many good gay guys, don't pine over a lost cause. <-- my opinion.

[Jwolf]

See, in the Nifty stories, though, it's always that the straight guy turns gay, falls for you, then you two move in together and adopt children while getting married in some state that accepts gay marriage. So that's where the Nifty Gay Man's Cinderella Effect failed you. LOL.

 

Don't think it was for lack of trying! Lol.

 

Also, I agree above. There are a plethora of eligible gay men to fall for. Have your pick.

[Abersloth]

And baby, there are so many good gay guys, don't pine over a lost cause. <-- my opinion.

 

You can not fathom how untrue that can be at certain ages. Gay teenagers = trainwreck. Just look at me! I'm pretty much the worst thing that hell ever vomited on to the face of this planet.

[TetRefine]

You can not fathom how untrue that can be at certain ages. Gay teenagers = trainwreck. Just look at me! I'm pretty much the worst thing that hell ever vomited on to the face of this planet.

 

Well, just because you're a trainwreck doesn't mean they all are, or even most are. I know several gay teenagers who aren't trainwrecks, including my boyfriend.

[Abersloth]

Well, just because you're a trainwreck doesn't mean they all are, or even most are. I know several gay teenagers who aren't trainwrecks, including my boyfriend.

 

[Tara00]

Haha TetRefine, I'm sure your boyfriend is a fine guy. But Nathan, you aren't any trainwreck either.

[Abersloth]

Haha TetRefine, I'm sure your boyfriend is a fine guy. But Nathan, you aren't any trainwreck either.

 

I was joking. However, my point still stands. Depending on geography and social climate, gay men can be few and far between, and the good ones can be even more sparse. If you look at the gay community in Eugene, it's basically just a bunch of creeps who look for kinky hookups on craigslist, punctuated by vacuous waste-of-oxygen gossips on the prowl for a trophy boyfriend.

[Dannsar]

Oh lordy, can some Mod or other please lock this thread cos it's just got vacuous now. This sort of daft talk can do nothing but damage. The original poster was looking for some advice, but this has now descended into stupidity.

[Tara00]

Oh lordy, can some Mod or other please lock this thread cos it's just got vacuous now. This sort of daft talk can do nothing but damage. The original poster was looking for some advice, but this has now descended into stupidity.

 

Umm..we don't get to decide if the talk is indeed daft like you put it. These are just opinions we are all giving so let's not comment if we find it stupid. No one forces us to comment in places we don't want to. And as far as others want to do it, it's their call. But I agree with you that experiences are subjective and arguments over them are best if avoided. I think we should all stop at this.

[Dannsar]

Umm ... I'll decide what I think is daft, thank you. And nobody's trying to restrict commentary on the subject. I'm just trying to restrict silly commentary off topic, on what can be a very emotionally difficult experience for some people. And it needs to be remembered that while no one needs to comment, as you say, that is ignoring the fact that someone with self esteem issues on top of emotional turbulence might come along and read stuff that characterises particular sections of the community as, for instance, trainwrecks.

 

See, that's the problem. Talking nonsense into the ether is often assumed to be saying stuff that affects nobody else. It's just one's opinion. It's almost as if it were talking into a vacuum where it loses potential consequence because of the semantic desert. But it's not. And ironically, that makes it vacuous. It also makes it somewhat hazardous, if not plain dangerous. Maybe you've been lucky in your life and never had to question your sexuality on the basis of the potential opprobrium of the rest of society. Maybe you've never had to worry about losing your friends be cause of who you are intrinsically. Maybe you've never had to worry about being bullied because of what turns you on. Maybe you've never had to contemplate suicide because you're terrified of the consequences of being different. I don't know. You're clearly not one of the many kids who do actually end their lives every year because they are mercilessly taunted by other thickwits who call them 'trainwreck' and other much worse stuff.

 

But your blasé attitude about your blessings doesn't protect those others from all that bollocks. People like me do. So if it's daft and dangerous in my opinion, I'm gonna call it. Your freedom to speak potentially damaging nonsense is gonna come way below that. No apologies will be given.

[Tara00]

Sorry. I did not see it in that light. But my telling Nathan to not consider himself a trainwreck like he put it was surely not a nonsesical talk according to me. What you have done in your post is just elaborated what Nathan has written and made the negatives of being gay even more prominent. It's true that I didn't have to face what majority of you had to. I was only trying to appease the negativity by trying to bring some semblance of thought. But I am also not aware of what Nathan has faced in his life exactly except for the fact that whenever I've talked to him, he's always come across as off to me. You telling him off like that on what he had to say felt wrong to me and I wrote what I wrote.

 

I never wanted to argue on that with you. Never thought it would come to this. If you still believe I was in the wrong, I am gracious enough to apologize.

 

Tara

[Dannsar]

Apology accepted, but the original admonition on trainwreck was not aimed at you ... after all you were being positive about it. Anyway ... enough of this ...

[Abersloth]

Sorry. I did not see it in that light. But my telling Nathan to not consider himself a trainwreck like he put it was surely not a nonsesical talk according to me. What you have done in your post is just elaborated what Nathan has written and made the negatives of being gay even more prominent. It's true that I didn't have to face what majority of you had to. I was only trying to appease the negativity by trying to bring some semblance of thought. But I am also not aware of what Nathan has faced in his life exactly except for the fact that whenever I've talked to him, he's always come across as off to me. You telling him off like that on what he had to say felt wrong to me and I wrote what I wrote.

 

I never wanted to argue on that with you. Never thought it would come to this. If you still believe I was in the wrong, I am gracious enough to apologize.

 

Tara

 

Well, for starters, I was joking about being a horrible little monster. I'm not the most pleasant person in the world (cynical, arrogant, blunt), but I'm far from being catastrophically screwed in the head.

 

Moreover, I'd like to make a clarifying point. TEENAGERS=trainwreck. I'm currently working on a laser speckle research project, which is fundamentally an exercise in non-linear chaos. That being said, the chaos that teenagers imbue in their own lives, something I remember quite well, makes my multiple scattering problem look futile and small. Remember, the OPer is college aged. The nonsense of highschool disappears at that point. Vanishes. Poof.

 

If I speak on my own experiences, you are in no position to question that. I explained very thoroughly the climate that I live in in Eugene, Oregon. Frankly, it sucks, and from what I hear, it goes with the age-territory. The need-to-breed, as it were, is a huge driving force at this age, and it seems somewhat enhanced among gay college students. I DARE you to look at the Eugene craigslist M4M section.

 

Also, what do you mean when you say "He's always come across as off to me"?

 

Dannsar, if you go back to the first page, you'll see what I consider to be a weighed, helpful response from me, which seems to have been largely ignored or forgotten in the chaos of what this thread has become.

[zland666]

Too many Nifty stories and porn sites make it out to seem like every straight guy secretly yearns to get poked up the butt.

 

 

 

LOLZ.

 

ROFL LMAO!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahaha seriously huh read too many of those kind of stories to count my toes on XD

[Mark Arbour]

Umm ... I'll decide what I think is daft, thank you. And nobody's trying to restrict commentary on the subject. I'm just trying to restrict silly commentary off topic, on what can be a very emotionally difficult experience for some people. And it needs to be remembered that while no one needs to comment, as you say, that is ignoring the fact that someone with self esteem issues on top of emotional turbulence might come along and read stuff that characterises particular sections of the community as, for instance, trainwrecks.

 

See, that's the problem. Talking nonsense into the ether is often assumed to be saying stuff that affects nobody else. It's just one's opinion. It's almost as if it were talking into a vacuum where it loses potential consequence because of the semantic desert. But it's not. And ironically, that makes it vacuous. It also makes it somewhat hazardous, if not plain dangerous. Maybe you've been lucky in your life and never had to question your sexuality on the basis of the potential opprobrium of the rest of society. Maybe you've never had to worry about losing your friends be cause of who you are intrinsically. Maybe you've never had to worry about being bullied because of what turns you on. Maybe you've never had to contemplate suicide because you're terrified of the consequences of being different. I don't know. You're clearly not one of the many kids who do actually end their lives every year because they are mercilessly taunted by other thickwits who call them 'trainwreck' and other much worse stuff.

 

But your blasé attitude about your blessings doesn't protect those others from all that bollocks. People like me do. So if it's daft and dangerous in my opinion, I'm gonna call it. Your freedom to speak potentially damaging nonsense is gonna come way below that. No apologies will be given.

 

It's posts like this that make me miss the "negative" button.

 

First of all, you're not a moderator, so it's not your place to "restrict" comments you consider to be off-topic. Quite frankly, a moderator would have to be militant to worry about this thread going off topic.

 

Second, you imply this is some serious, in-depth discussion. Here's the original post:

 

How can u attract a straight guy and make him fall for you?

 

I just had a friend, he's straight and i like him so much

I think I'm falling for him

It's a legitimate question. But if it was a massively emotional issue, don't you think the original poster would have elaborated a bit more? Don't you think the word "love" would have been there instead of just "like"? And did you bother to scan the thread to notice that the original poster never bothered to weigh back in and comment on the thread he started, so desperate was his need for your words of wisdom?

Instead, you decide you're in charge, and start loading crap on other members. If you look a little deeper, you may notice some latent self-esteem issues which are common to teenagers in general, and gay males in particular. If their off-topic discussion helps that in even the slightest way, that's way more important than maintaining order in your world as you see it.

[TetRefine]

It's posts like this that make me miss the "negative" button.

 

First of all, you're not a moderator, so it's not your place to "restrict" comments you consider to be off-topic. Quite frankly, a moderator would have to be militant to worry about this thread going off topic.

 

Second, you imply this is some serious, in-depth discussion. Here's the original post:

 

 

 

It's a legitimate question. But if it was a massively emotional issue, don't you think the original poster would have elaborated a bit more? Don't you think the word "love" would have been there instead of just "like"? And did you bother to scan the thread to notice that the original poster never bothered to weigh back in and comment on the thread he started, so desperate was his need for your words of wisdom?

 

Instead, you decide you're in charge, and start loading crap on other members. If you look a little deeper, you may notice some latent self-esteem issues which are common to teenagers in general, and gay males in particular. If their off-topic discussion helps that in even the slightest way, that's way more important than maintaining order in your world as you see it.

 

Haha, word. This question gets posed at least several times a year, and every time the answer is the same, SIMPLE answer. It doesn't take a 20 minute post to tell someone it ain't gonna happen and just accept it.

[Dannsar]

It's posts like this that make me miss the "negative" button.

 

First of all, you're not a moderator, so it's not your place to "restrict" comments you consider to be off-topic. Quite frankly, a moderator would have to be militant to worry about this thread going off topic.

 

Second, you imply this is some serious, in-depth discussion. Here's the original post:

 

It's a legitimate question. But if it was a massively emotional issue, don't you think the original poster would have elaborated a bit more? Don't you think the word "love" would have been there instead of just "like"? And did you bother to scan the thread to notice that the original poster never bothered to weigh back in and comment on the thread he started, so desperate was his need for your words of wisdom? [/size]

 

Instead, you decide you're in charge, and start loading crap on other members. If you look a little deeper, you may notice some latent self-esteem issues which are common to teenagers in general, and gay males in particular. If their off-topic discussion helps that in even the slightest way, that's way more important than maintaining order in your world as you see it. [/size]

 

Oh right, and who died and made you God Almighty? As I said I'm trying to restrict ... by discussion and engagement ... that, (not so) clever clogs, is different from

 

• reporting (a contributor action, not a Mod one) - which I did not do
• hiding (a Mod action) - which I could not do
• locking (a mod action)- which I could not do

 

Furthermore, you, like me, are not a mod, so it is not for me to decide, then it is alss not for you to decide what is off-topic, it is for a mod to decide. I think you've just broken your own rules by telling me what I should and shouldn't discuss, or deem to be right wrong or indifferent, by doing precisely the same yourself. Or is that too complicated for you to understand?

 

Furthermore, if you look at all the previous comments, up until a certain point, the thread was being treated seriously. Or are you trying to suggest to me that posts

 

• 2 Nephy +1
• 3 Cia +1
• 6 Krista +5
• 7 Marzipan +1
• 8 Dannsar +4
• 9 Mike L +2
• 13 YOU +6

all of whom treated the subject with some level of seriousness, were actually the ones who were off topic immediately, and the ones that came after with comments like alchooooool and LOLZ were on topic? The people in the first set of posts are generally regarded as serious people on here

 

Take a walk Mr Arbour. The Neg button was taken away to keep people like you from hijacking decent commentary on threads and making people suffer for decent engagement. Otherwise you should have objected in +6 post that the thread should have been in Games and HUMOUR. If you can't compute that as you say, there are latent self esteem issues with teeneagers and gay males in particular, and then simply sit back when words like 'trainwreck' start getting used and moving the thread off to less secure places, then I suggest you might want to take a course in common sense before you start 'loading crap onto' me.

 

You also mention that the OPer did not post further. Well how on earth do you know? I have watched this thread, and what happened was that as new posts started coming up in the outset, they were all +1d fairly quickly. In my experience that is the action of an OPer actually +ing, unless of course you're telling us that it was you did all of those +s? And if you didn't, you can't know that the original OPer did not.

 

Finally, you're a writer I believe, with a rep of 2650, so presumably words meean something to you ... I couldn't actually say, never having managed to read your stuff yet, but I see you're written 3.1 million of them, so it's a fairly safe bet. And yet you can dispute that a comment such as

 

How can u attract a straight guy and make him fall for you?

 

I just had a friend, he's straight and i like him so much

I think I'm falling for him

 

in a thread entitled

 

How can u attract a straight guy and make him fall for you?

actually refers to love, or the potential of it. How many times have you ever heard of someone 'falling in like' with someone else? You might only be able to concentrate on one thing at a time MR. Arbour, there are others out here who can hold several thoughts at once.

 

I couldn't care less if you're hosted or mosted, you're sure as hell pretty damned ignorant. Now, run along and play with your toys and stop greeting over spilt neg buttons. And if you want to have my opinion on neg buttons, take a look at my past statuses. And while you're about it, take a look at my sig, too. It's people like you it was designed for.

[NaperVic]

Furthermore, if you look at all the previous comments, up until a certain point, the thread was being treated seriously. Or are you trying to suggest to me that posts...

 

If I remember correctly, this thread was originally started in the 'Games & Humor' forum and then got moved to the 'Member Q & A' forum.

[Mark Arbour]

If I remember correctly, this thread was originally started in the 'Games & Humor' forum and then got moved to the 'Member Q & A' forum.

 

Ah, facts. How inconvenient they can be at times.

[Abersloth]

If I remember correctly, this thread was originally started in the 'Games & Humor' forum and then got moved to the 'Member Q & A' forum.

 

I owe you a pint. Nice catch.

 

Dannsar, don't get your panties in a bunch. Serious options have been weighed, and I think that your current line of discussion is even more off-topic than the discussion you were chastising [edit], as is this post.

[Jwolf]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say one or more people participating in this thread need to get laid this weekend.

 

Bonus points if it's by a "straight" guy".

[Dannsar]

Ha ha! Children children. I can assure you that when I answered it wasn't in there, cos I wouldn't go in there, so it must have been moved before that. Which in itself must tell you something about its nature.Therefore your somewhat soggy logic fails. Surprising that. Anyway, must off and douse my pants which are on fire. Apparently. Ouch. Now, while I'm doing that, the rest of you can run along with Arbour and play nice with his toys. I'll run off and ask the relevant people to reinstate it to Games and Humour. Or maybe even ask them to create a new forum called trash and tripe. Gawsh. Water please someone.

[Abersloth]

Ha ha! Children children. I can assure you that when I answered it wasn't in there, cos I wouldn't go in there, so it must have been moved before that. Which in itself must tell you something about its nature.Therefore your somewhat soggy logic fails. Surprising that. Anyway, must off and douse my pants which are on fire. Apparently. Ouch. Now, while I'm doing that, the rest of you can run along with Arbour and play nice with his toys. I'll run off and ask the relevant people to reinstate it to Games and Humour. Or maybe even ask them to create a new forum called trash and tripe. Gawsh. Water please someone.

 

Weren't you just campaigning for a little sensitivity and gravity? Now you're labeling this thread as "trash and tripe." Welcome to my camp, would you like a cup of boiling tar?

[Mark Arbour]

Weren't you just campaigning for a little sensitivity and gravity? Now you're labeling this thread as "trash and tripe." Welcome to my camp, would you like a cup of boiling tar?

 

That works great if you have some feathers to go with it.

 

And by the way, I have fun toys.