Timothy M.

Why do gay guys in the closet always forget to lock the door ? This was such a nice calm chapter until we reached the cliff hanger. I hope Corey has Andy and Keith on speed dial, he'll need them soon. And I hope he's wise enough to call them, because they'll never forgive him, if he betrays his friends by not asking for help, when he's just promised them to do so. And I've got the feeling Cj will get violent no matter what Clinton says or does. Oh well at least Clinton managed to say that he'd admit being gay to Cj, before the bastard surprised them. So Corey knows he wasn't forced into the decision by the nightmare of being caught by his socalled best friend. Whatever Clinton decides to do now, Corey will know what his potential boyfriend is: a man or a wimp. And he can work on shaping his future accordingly.

I think the shower scene was a good chance for Tony to show that he's respectful of boundaries. I also liked the way Ty explained to Ollie that he was making the situation worse, even if he meant well. Now the one thing I don't understand is why the financial group does not tell Tony about the sponsor problem. He would probably be able to find them another main sponsor, maybe even the radio if things go well. Altogether a great chapter, and I bet we're all looking forward to Ken's date with Tony. Even if the part of telling him about Alex and Ethan knowing is scary.

Awww shit what a shocker. On the other hand, his parents and Hy owes him big time for this, so they better be cool when he comes out to them. But Mikeal certainly is being a drama queen when he says he hasn't got a family anymore. Being adopted doesn't mean that they are not his parents or sisters, or that they don't love him just as much as if he'd been their biological son. It's the lying to him that's the problem, but let's face it, he's been sort of lying to them too. I hope Adam talk some sense into his boyfriend and persuade him to go back to his family. Preferably together. They'll be so relieved to see him that the introduction of 'Adam, my boyfriend' will just slide by.

Right now, I'm leaning to NO, because it would be all about Matt getting revenge on Wade and Will being frustrated about Zach. On the other hand if it ultimately helped Matt and Wade get back together, then maybe. But Will would have to find out what the whole deal with Zach is and whether they still want to be a couple in secret. At least he'd have to ask Zach if anyone was off limit (and in particular Matt), if they took a break in their relationship due to the Wally problems. (I'm pretty sure he put the agent up to this prohibition deal.) If there were no Zach relationship issues, I'd go for YES. It would be damn hot to have Will do Matt. And the drama would be sort of fun too So I don't know what to vote - except definitely NO to the threesome question, unless Zach was the one to initiate it. But I have the feeling he'd not be all that eager to share Will with other guys. I think he's possessive when in love.

All I'm going to say is that it's so sad the way Will's comment about Brad and Wade turned out to be prophetic of his own relationship with Zach "It would suck to love someone, and not be able to be with him."

Aawww damn, that's so cute. I sure would like to meet a Tyler clone. Of all your Songbook stories so far this is the one I'd really like to read a sequel to. And so nice to see a sensible and sensitive girl in a gay romance, I loved the way she stunned Liam. Speechless. Prizeless.

A true friend, a tragedy with a twist, and an unexpected savior with a sad past. This was a chapter to wrench our hearts and knot our guts. How many tissues did you use while writing it, Sasha ? The only thing I wondered about was the difference between gestation time for Kurt and Yulva. But the story forum is a better place for that question. Awesome chapter - and Henry impressed me immensely. His insights are gamma status worthy.

Hmm, who is Nami ? Well, in a way it's good that Nassau did something nasty to Kia, because then they both have something to forgive each other. And if Nassau choses to make amends by changing Jem, then Kia might not be too pissed. However, one thought popped up while reading this, no two: Does Jem really want to be changed ? - I've go the feeling he's happy the way he is, except he'll like to be immortal. What will he and Kia do ? And what do the other demon/human couples do ? I think you've mentioned things in passing, but maybe you could include a paragraph where Kiorl tells Jem about the 'jobs' of the other humans.

I was annoyed with Alex for his persistent teasing of Tony about not getting lais, but right now I'm pissed. Joking about outing someone is a shitty thing to do, and he should show more respect for Tony's opinion about the matter and how bad things could get for Ken. And even Ethan seemed to shug the issue off at the end. Oh and the same thing goes for the joke about Tony liking the eye candy. Just one silly and careless comment in public which got back to the main sponsor would end things for the Leopards and Tony.

Oh fuck. Tay you idiot haven't you heard of lube and using your fingers first ! But I guess this is what happens when you've had to wait too long to complete your mating. Guess they're back to square one (or worse) Grabbing hold of the leg of a freaked out wolf really not a good idea - I'd say Tay's learnt nothing from past snapping encounters with Kurt. And even the two pregnant women caught on to the fact that it was a bad idea to call Kurt 'pup' in public. And more interestingly to the potential split away of a separate pack.

I love this story just as much as first Timber Pack book and almost everything else you've written. And I'm totally in on the 'lørdagsslik' concept that Puppilull mentioned after ch 5. But one thing does annoy me: How come most of these male wolves seem to think with their dicks or other primitive parts of their bodies ? Why didn't Colton ask the other gay Alpha about possible punishments for keeping mates apart ? Obviusly the whole mate concept is almost sacred for Lycans, since this argument was enough to excuse both Colton and Curtis from biting and turning humans. An offense that otherwise carries high penalties. And the Forest Alpha even acknowledged Parker, because mate trumphs male apparently. Now Derek doesn't believe that, but even he might have to bow to the pressure of the Council. And if Colton (or Parker) asked them in a way that could be understood as if it was a female wolf being kept from her mate in their pack, I bet they would act. And then it would be too late, when it came out that it was really Jed claiming Buzz. In any case, Colton (and Jed) may be too macho or not clever enough to think of that, but I bet Parker isn't. And where is Trey in all of this ? He could talk to his dad and ask him as one beta to another how to deal with such matters. Anyway, I'm sure you'll do things your own way and it'll be awesome too. And I completely agree with Mitch, Buzz needs to run away. After all he said it himself: over my dead body - and he's just watched Derek have a gay wolf executed for submitting. Another thing I bet the Council won't condone if they knew (not because they care about a gay uy, but because it's a danger in relation to keeping Lycans secret).

Matt has every right to feel sad and angry about the Wade and Brad thing, and I'm not going to say that any of the things he feels are wrong. If he now wants to say that it's extra wrong beacuse Brad was sort of his stepdad (even if it wasn't an issue before), then fine. It's all emotions with Matt, so it's doesn't have to be logical. And if he wants to see it as a betrayal similar to to what he did to Will by fucking Tony, that's fine too, because it meant that he FINALLY realized how much he'd hurt Will and actually felt really sorry about it. However, I think he needs to blame and hate Brad for this thing, because if he blames Wade too much that might get in the way of them getting back together. And subconciously Matt want to avoid that, even if his love for Wade has been damaged (same as it was the first time Brad had sex with Wade). In any case considering how much Matt hurt Will, plus Wade and the rest of the people who cares about him by pushing them away for ages and refusing to get help, then he almost deserves every bit of pain he feels right now. Almost... But Matt still has so many problems it's scary. Mainly because he does not seem to realize it. He seems to prefer blaming other people for his problems, and while that is a very human trait, it's dangerous when you're around Wade and JP, who can see right through BS like that and who themselves are totally opposite in that they're more likely to blame themselves and to do everything possible to control their own behavior and act in a rational and correct yet compassionate manner. Matt never seems to stop to think matters through, he just reacts to his emotions (punching Brad and Fucking Wade's sister are perfect examples). And while he is partly excused for not being completely with it in this chapter due to painkillers (though taking more pills than he was supposed to was yet another unintelligent thing to do, especially for a guy who's had kidney troubles before), I'm fairly sure he'd have gotten things just as muddled without them. And sadly Matt's inability to act in a calm way and think logically about matters, even when they are highly emotional, is probably one of the main deal breakers with Wade. I'm thinking of the remark Brad made in ch 8: “You know, I’ve always wondered if it wouldn’t be possible to have both. To have a guy who was a blast, who liked to get a little freaky, but at the same time, was a stable and solid partner,” I mused. “That’s the pipe dream,” he said philosophically. Wade is the one saying it's a dream because he knows he can't be with Brad in the long run and that Matt is not able to provide him with that (or at least not right now). And there are so many examples of Matt not getting it right intellectually. Forget the illogical comparisons to previous situations, if even Will makes that mistake, we can't blame Matt for doing the same (and actually Brad buys into the idea too). No, the main example I noticed in this case is Matt saying how Brad "doesn’t really give a shit about me and what I think". And right after that we have Brad thinking: "I felt incredibly guilty for hurting Matt" and saying that if Wade hadn't been linked to Matt he'd have 'fought to keep the romantic connection'. So Brad does care about Matt - even if he was utterly furious with him and wanted to hurt him, when Matt fucked Will over with Tony. So Matt is still very much a boy and not a man, intellectually, and while I hope he'll be able to make the journey from one stage to another, and actually become the brilliant person that he has potential for, I worry that he's too fucked up (and partly by events which were not his fault, of course) for it to happen. But we all know Mark can make miracles happen in relation to having people develop character. So I'll keep my fingers crossed and stay with the story.

But the whole point here is that the real problem with Wade and Brad being together originally was that they got too deeply involved and it was a danger to Wade's relationship with Matt. Exactly what has happened again. So as Tim says, it's perfectly reasonable to compare the Wade/Brad situation now to the previous time they had sex. Rather than to compare it to the Matt/Tony or Sam/Jake issues. And the last time Wade was with Brad, Matt didn't freak out because Brad was family and therefore off limit, nor did Will. That's what has both Tims puzzled

Benny and everyone else REALLY need to stop treating Yuri like a child. He may have trouble recalling / remembering things and he has huge problems with stressful situations (many people talking etc). But he knows how he feels and what he wants, and in fact I think the way he is now (living in the present and focusing on his immediate needs) is actually better in relation to Benny and the whole issue with Tiger clans. How about Benny stop thinking of his mate as broken and focus on making Yuri happy. Little things like taking him for a walk in a garden with lovely flowers, brushing his hair, getting him nice treats to eat, letting Yuri touch him, playing simple games like throwing a frisbee or something. Just building a new relationship with Yuri rather than brooding about what he was like before and how to get the old yuri back. OK if Yuri wants to become more functional in some things (though it's not quite clear how he's dysfunctional except his innoncence in how he sees the world), then by all means they should work on that. But why don't they start listing all the things he can do and ask him what things he would like to be better at. And maybe have a separate session with Benny on whether he can live with Yuri the way he is now. I bet they could even have sex, if he lets Yuri be in charge of what to do.

Oh dear life is never easy for those two. Just when Tay was enjoying the gradually increasing intimacy with Kurt he is again confronted with the fact that their outside life in the pack is not going to continue. But at least they have a fair Alpha who will do his best to secure the best deal for all of them. And another cute smell moment for Isla.

Ahh the aftermath of all the drama is also interesting, as well as sweet when they slept together and Tay carried Kurt home. Being forced to spend so much time human and helpless must be difficult for Kurt, but in the end I think it'll make the bond with Tay stronger.

This part seems like four different chapters. First we have some interesting background on Alizia (is every other pack hidebound traditional?). Then the embarrassing mistake by Isla (oops) and the sudden mating of Deoran as submissive, which was interesting. Next a short interlude with Jene and just as you have us ready for a romantic scene between Kurt and Tay, the whole thing explodes into violence, blood and death. Deeply shocking even when I read it again. Actually I almost feel more sorry for Henry than Kurt, who though terribly hurt knows that he did the only thing he could do by fixing the threat permanently. We are reminded very forcefully that werewolves are not just special humans but also animals with quite a different take on some things. And finally you let matters settle again, even add a bit of humor in Kurt telling Tay to stop fussing, and the cute way he gets invited to sleep with his mate. By then we're exhausted too. I think this chapter may be the most intense of all.

Considering how Kurt reacted by biting his hand the first time Tay sat down next to him and petted his fur, it's shows how far he has come, that he now enjoys having his fellow enforcers touch him with praise. Poor Deoran, he certainy didn't make a good impression on Kurt.

Well done Tay. Maybe he didn't get a blow job this time, but he still got to be with Kurt in human shape. And I think every little bit counts towards wearing Kurt's resistance down. Oh and the driving lesson was hilarious.

I like that we get to see Henry Tanner as a good friend, who is concerned about Tay, but also accepting of his relationship with Kurt. And the insight into Kurt's feelings about Tay and his slow acknowledgement of what he will eventually need is riveting. Oh and I loved Isla commenting how Kurt smelled like her brother

Oh what a lovely treat on a Sunday afternoon. Sooo hot Glad Jem was rewarded for being patient, and he certainly shows a good insight in how to handle Kia. He's pushy in just the right way but also respects that Kia has issues to deal with. I still expect them to have problems for a while yet, but at least Jem knows he's made the right choice.

Aww, man that's awful - no I don't mean that the story is badly written or doesn't make sense, but the truth of why Ben was acting the way he did was like a fist in my guts. At some point Sharon should be told, maybe when Carl has finally found someone else, and if she starts worrying about the same problem again, cause he'll probably find the same kind of boyfriend. But I'm not sure that I agree that Ben's solution was the best. I think there is a higher risk that Carl won't dare to trust another man not to break his heart, than if he had stayed with Ben till the end and known that he loved him. I think I'd feel that way. So I dare you to write an alternate version where that happens. One where Tom tells Sharon the truth before the escort stunt and she decides to meddle in a better way. After all, she'll still get what she wants: Ben out of Carl's life and her left to comfort him and find another man for him

Things are developing nicely. I think we've all guess why 'Ken' is having problems staying in the closet: he's falling in love. It's going to be hard on both him and Tony if he admits to his feelings. Oh and the pressure to win is definitely on, but I liked Anne's reminders of the anti-discriminating rules. Wish they could be applied to sponsors as well Deon's talk with Tony had me confused, as I'd completely forgotten what his issue was. I had to go back and read the prevoius chapters to remind me. The good thing about that was that I got to experience the chat twice: once from Tony's point of view, trying to work out WTF was going on with those questions. Afterwards when I read the chaper again, I could see that Deon was trying to find out whether Tony would do the same things that Deon's father and his lover did. This actually made that part more interesting.

I don't really want to post in the CAP forums, because they scare me, but I guess I'll just run away after this Well it’s Mark’s story and characters and Mark knows a lot more about what is going on than we do. So if he says (that Will is right) that the situation with Brad and Wade is just like the situation with Matt & Tony and Jake & Sam, I have to accept it. So let’s see: We have Will who is young and infatuated (in love?) with this older guy Tony, who is deep in the closet / in denial about being gay, and treats Will like shit, but finally comes out and admits the gay part to Will’s family. Will, who by the way is traumatized by the loss of his mother and his stepfather, warns his brother Matt about fucking Tony, after Matt makes a joke about it. Matt is in a serious relationship (almost engaged to) this great guy Wade, who reluctantly has accepted that his boyfriend likes to fool around with other guys, but in this case warns him that having sex with Tony is a really bad idea. Matt (who is also in emotional turmoil from losing Robbie) decides that the warnings about doing Tony is a challenge he cannot resist, so he hooks up with him. After he is found out, he is really sorry, so he does his best to make amends and become a better person – no wait he moves in with Tony and keeps having sex with him now and then for the next six months, before finally coming to his senses. Will feels betrayed and Wade probably feels humiliated by Matt’s (and Tony’s) behavior. Now substitute Will with Matt, Tony with Brad, and Matt with Wade, and Wade with Will and look at the situation in another way: Wade is this young guy who is deeply in love with Matt, but so hurt and humiliated by his behavior that he decides to end his relationship with his boyfriend. Wade is also attracted to this older man Brad, who is not in the closet, not in a relationship (since his husband just died), and who genuinely cares about Wade. So they have sex and talk, helping each other cope with all the bad stuff in their lives. Brad fulfills the need of Wade to have someone support him and listen to him, and Wade stabilizes Brad who was in risk of going off the deep end from the loss of Robbie. Both of them worry about how their relationship would hurt people they love, mainly Will and Matt, so they manage to keep it secret for six months. Once they are discovered, they know they will have to end this and to do their best to make amends and heal the possible rifts in the family. Matt will feel betrayed and Will is furious about Wade’s and Brad’s behavior. Yep I can really see the similarity of Matt’s decision to spite fuck Tony and Wade’s decision to become seriously involved with Brad. They both got a deep emotional need fulfilled and screwed up their commitments to each other and the CAP family at the same time. Okay, now let’s explore the Sam / Jake angle: Brad was this young guy who had just gotten his first boyfriend and brought Jake home and along on a family trip. Sam, a much older man who was in a long term relationship with JP, the head of the family, let himself be seduced by Jake who turned out to be a slut who liked to have sex with other people’s partners. So naturally Brad was devastated to be betrayed both by the boy he was in love with and even more by someone from his own family. He also wished he’d never even met Jake, because then Robbie would have been his first love. Later he was furious that Matt did a similar betrayal of his son Will by fucking Tony. Mainly because this time the family did not rally behind Will as they had done with Brad (Sam got thrown out of the family, but Matt didn’t – though there were good reasons for that, which Brad knew and accepted.) Now substitute Sam with Brad, Brad with Matt, and Jake with Wade and look at the situation in another way: Matt is this young guy who has a boyfriend, Wade, and has brought him into the family of his biological father, Robbie. They are together for a long time, and at one point Wade has sex with Brad who is older and in a committed relationship with Robbie. At the same time Matt also has sex with other guys, including Carl who like Brad is a threat to Matt’s and Wade’s relationship. The couple manages to work out their problems, including why Wade was attracted to Brad and how Matt can give Wade what he needs (a man who can take charge and make him feel secure). The fact that Brad is sort of related to Matt is not such a big deal (as far as I recall), since Matt himself had sex with JP and Stef, and would probably have happily done it again after he found out who they were (but JP was wise enough to resist the temptation for Robbie’s sake). Anyway, later Wade broke up with Matt and he was so determined not to be with him again, that he started having sex with Brad, who could give him what he needed, even if it might be only temporarily. Apart from the sex they also bonded emotionally. Yep I can really see the similarity of Sam and Jake rutting in the woods shortly after having met, and Sam going on to cheat on his wife with the slutty Jake, and Brad’s decision to become seriously involved with Wade. They all got a deep emotional need fulfilled and screwed up their commitments to their partners (who had left them either physically or mentally) and the CAP family at the same time. On the current issue Mark made a point that I found crucial (in a comment to another ch 8 review): So why did Matt/Tony and Wade/Brad include sex? Couldn’t they have had just as deep a relationship without sex ? Well, we don’t know whether Matt and Tony had long talks (but Tony didn’t exactly cuddle or do pillow talk with Will after sex ) or cared for each other, but maybe they did help each other by being roommates for six months. And I guess Brad and Wade should have known better than to fuck, but the CAP family does tend to express their attachments via sex. But I agree that the sex was probably a bad idea and they knew it was wrong but still kept doing it (or at least Brad and Wade admitted to feeling bad). However, I think the real danger for a possible future of Matt and Wade as a couple (which I certainly hope for) and for a major rift in the CAP family wouldn't be the sex between Wade and Brad, but the risk of Brad and Wade falling in love and coming out as boyfriends. And if they had decided that sex would only happen if they became a committed couple that would increase the chance. With the sex being part of their temporary relationship while they were both in between partners, it becomes less of a risk. They would have parted, Matt would have grown up, Wade would tell him about being with Brad, when they started going out again after college. If Matt couldn’t forgive him that – same as Wade had to forgive Matt for Carl, Tony, etc. – well at least they were removed from the situation and Matt would be in a more stable frame of mind by then. And not injured and in the hospital which is a place he hates. Instead we’ll get lots of drama NOW – but then that’s what drives the CAP stories, so fine with me. And I have no problem with Will being right about why Brad and Wade being together is a huge issue - after all I'm fascinated by vulcanoes.

Nope, sorry, I still don’t think Will did anything wrong in relation to Ben. If he’d been told in a private conversation with Brad, if his dad had been genuinely upset by the experience, or if Will had tried to ‘revenge’ a perceived slight, that would be different. But since Brad joked about it at dinner and was obviously fine about the date crashing by Sean, I see no reason for Will to feel bad. (Teasing Sean about the incident would have been mean, though.) HOWEVER, I have no problem with the matter being used to pull Will down from his high and mighty attitude, and it’s a good thing it happened before he surprised Brad and Wade in bed. I was not at all surprised that Wade was Brad’s ‘exceptional’ fuck, I immediately thought of him. Easy to say now, so I’ll quickly add that I’d never have guessed that it was a regular thing or that it meant so much to both of them. But it certainly makes a lot of sense. And here is where Will needs to shut up and think instead of reacting emotionally and way over the top (though I guess he’s just acting his biological age and messed up by his own issues). Brad’s and Wade’s relationship bears very little similarity to the situation with Tony or the Sam/Jack problem. I’m not going to list all the objections I have, as this review would get too long. All I’m going to say is that Will should be pleased that two of the most important men in his life helped each other deal with some awful stuff in their lives and maybe saved each other from going crazy. They both chose to be with the one person who wouldn’t be a permanent future partner, and it would have ended when Wade went to Boston anyway. The only person here creating a drama is Will, silly boy. I hope Steff and JP (and the shrinks) will focus on the fact that Brad and Wade would have hurt more people by being obvious about their relationship and that they would not have healed without it. I feel sorry for them that ot had to end this way, but at least Brad acknowledged that it was worth it. Well done. Mark, you must just love all the different interpretations we have of this chapter