SubtleKnife Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 I'm glad you noticed the sentence regarding the identical twins , I was hoping someone would raise the question. A while ago I read somewhere that while boy/girl identical twins have occurred, they are extremely, extremely rare. (Like only 3 documented cases). I don't know the genetics behind it, but it was an interesting fact that I could put into the story. Another way to distinguish Admiral Ive from the crowd. However you're kinda right, by definition they couldn't be identical as they are of opposite sex. But they would be as identical as possible. I'm not sure if the technology in the future would enhance the chances of it occurring, but one would assume it's possible. But in Ive's case, it was natural. I'm not a geneticist, but I read a couple of those registered cases and at the present this situation is only possible as the result of (a) genetic defect(s).These sets of twins are monozygotic, which we generally call "identical twins", but thanks to a chromosomal abnormality they're not identical. Of course, in Ive's day this may very well be treatable - or even optional, I wouldn't want to tell the author what his world is like - but unless the doctors reverse the gender of one of them, at the best you could call them "monozygotic with discordant sex twins", which doesn't sound nearly as good as identical... PS don't take too long studying this, get to writing that next chapter!
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted March 11, 2009 Site Moderator Posted March 11, 2009 Don't forget, we're talking Science Fiction here, so anything could be possible.
Emulated Posted March 11, 2009 Author Posted March 11, 2009 [The return of Aunt vs Auntie!] - Reference to American Differences I'm not a geneticist, but I read a couple of those registered cases and at the present this situation is only possible as the result of (a) genetic defect(s).These sets of twins are monozygotic, which we generally call "identical twins", but thanks to a chromosomal abnormality they're not identical. Of course, in Ive's day this may very well be treatable - or even optional, I wouldn't want to tell the author what his world is like - but unless the doctors reverse the gender of one of them, at the best you could call them "monozygotic with discordant sex twins", which doesn't sound nearly as good as identical... DAMMIT!!! I didn't know that! I read the entire article but I didn't come across that... -(thanks for pointing it out though) So with that (cough)error(cough) in mind, I'd like to make the following suggestion: Ive's wife was pregnant with twins, but they decided that they would have a boy and a girl. Something which was taken care of by 24th century technology. So it was natural in the sense that he was having twins, but there were some tampering to make them of the opposite sex, yet remain identical. There ya! Problem gone. Mind you, at least I have done something that Star Trek is notorious for: The award winning continuity error! PS don't take too long studying this, get to writing that next chapter! On the contrary, perhaps I should have studied the topic a little longer . But don't worry, the next chapter will be out soon. Don't forget, we're talking Science Fiction here, so anything could be possible. That's true. After all, we all know what happened to Spock...
SubtleKnife Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 So with that (cough)error(cough) in mind, I'd like to make the following suggestion: Ive's wife was pregnant with twins, but they decided that they would have a boy and a girl. Something which was taken care of by 24th century technology. So it was natural in the sense that he was having twins, but there were some tampering to make them of the opposite sex, yet remain identical. That's what I meant when I said "Of course, in Ive's day this may very well be treatable - or even optional". And with their technology, there certainly would be a lot more similarities between the siblings than would occur naturally. There ya! Problem gone. Mind you, at least I have done something that Star Trek is notorious for: The award winning continuity error! hehehe, if it's good enough, those are forgiveable. But remember, science fiction or not, it's still the author's job to convince the readers to suspend disbelief.
Emulated Posted March 13, 2009 Author Posted March 13, 2009 hehehe, if it's good enough, those are forgiveable. But remember, science fiction or not, it's still the author's job to convince the readers to suspend disbelief. You're absolutely right. While I try my hardest to adhere to the realms of possibility, there is still a limited amount that an author can do to 'help' the reader to suspend disbelief, particularly in science fiction. Much of it has to come from the reader. They have to 'selectively' choose what to consciously ignore, or what to pursue as an error in the plot/script.
Emulated Posted March 23, 2009 Author Posted March 23, 2009 Hi! I hope you enjoyed chapter 13 of A Vulcan's Love. Thanks! Emulated
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted March 23, 2009 Site Moderator Posted March 23, 2009 I was a bit surprised that they didn't wind up getting each other the same thing by accident as gifts.
Emulated Posted March 24, 2009 Author Posted March 24, 2009 I was a bit surprised that they didn't wind up getting each other the same thing by accident as gifts. I was going to have them both get bracelets, but I changed my mind and introduced a little diversity.
Emulated Posted April 6, 2009 Author Posted April 6, 2009 Heya! I hope you enjoyed chapter 14 of A Vulcan's Love. Thanks! Emulated
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted April 6, 2009 Site Moderator Posted April 6, 2009 I think I've said this before, but we have another nominee for King of the Cliffhangers for the 2009 Readers Choice Awards.
Emulated Posted April 6, 2009 Author Posted April 6, 2009 I think I've said this before, but we have another nominee for King of the Cliffhangers for the 2009 Readers Choice Awards. Thanks! You're too kind. I've done one in each story over the past month, so don't expect any more in the near future!
Nicholas J. Covington Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 So how close is the nearest wepons locker please say there is a small wepons locker in the control room, one of those hanging breifcase looking things with hand phasers and tricorders inside.
Emulated Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 So how close is the nearest wepons locker please say there is a small wepons locker in the control room, one of those hanging breifcase looking things with hand phasers and tricorders inside. How close? Now that would be telling... But as a hint, I don't recall them being that hard to find.
Emulated Posted April 20, 2009 Author Posted April 20, 2009 Hi! I hope you all enjoyed chapter 15 of A Vulcan's Love. Thanks! Emulated
Emulated Posted May 4, 2009 Author Posted May 4, 2009 Hi! I hope you all enjoyed chapter 16 of A Vulcan's Love. Thanks! Emulated
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted May 4, 2009 Site Moderator Posted May 4, 2009 I think I see a trip to Vulcan for our bonded couple.
Emulated Posted May 5, 2009 Author Posted May 5, 2009 I think I see a trip to Vulcan for our bonded couple. Perhaps...
David McLeod Posted May 5, 2009 Posted May 5, 2009 The last two chapters were a great combination of action/adventure and personal relationships. I'm looking forward to seeing what the appearance of Fleet Intelligence does to the story.
Emulated Posted May 6, 2009 Author Posted May 6, 2009 The last two chapters were a great combination of action/adventure and personal relationships. I'm looking forward to seeing what the appearance of Fleet Intelligence does to the story. Thanks, David! Now that Intelligence is actively on the scene, things are bound to heat up very soon. With the terrorists planning to kill millions, and a secret meeting with the Romulans looming on the horizon, the outlook doesn't look very promising...
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted May 6, 2009 Site Moderator Posted May 6, 2009 I'm speculating that San Fransisco is the target. It is the headquarters for Star Fleet and the Federation of Planets.
David McLeod Posted May 6, 2009 Posted May 6, 2009 It wouldn't be the first time San Francisco was targeted by the "bad guys."
Emulated Posted May 6, 2009 Author Posted May 6, 2009 I'm speculating that San Fransisco is the target. It is the headquarters for Star Fleet and the Federation of Planets. Yes, San Francisco would make a very tempting target. Many people in a small area and it's the heart of the Federation. I'm sure it's also very well protected. (That didn't stop the Breen!) It wouldn't be the first time San Francisco was targeted by the "bad guys." Very true. The surprise Breen attack during the Dominion war was one of them.
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted May 6, 2009 Site Moderator Posted May 6, 2009 Not to mention the Founders being able to get to earth. Chances are, if S.F. is the intended target, the instrument of destruction is already in place.
Emulated Posted May 6, 2009 Author Posted May 6, 2009 Not to mention the Founders being able to get to earth. Chances are, if S.F. is the intended target, the instrument of destruction is already in place. I forgot about them! Yeah, they were everywhere at one point. Hmm, that's very interesting...
David McLeod Posted May 7, 2009 Posted May 7, 2009 Chances are, if S.F. is the intended target, the instrument of destruction is already in place. Hmmm, as if this story weren't complicated enough! ( )
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