HMS Belvidera

[Tiger]

I, for one, am enjoying the slightly slower posting pace.

 

I thought you liked having lots of work to do.

[Mark M]

Well the slower posting pace i wonder how many days it'll be?? Saturday was chapter 1, and now were at tuesday going on wednesday for chapter 2....although i want details i want more chapters...im in such a toss up in whether to harass mark to post another chapter or console him on posting slow for the details.....what 2 do?

[Tiger]

Well the slower posting pace i wonder how many days it'll be?? Saturday was chapter 1, and now were at tuesday going on wednesday for chapter 2....although i want details i want more chapters...im in such a toss up in whether to harass mark to post another chapter or console him on posting slow for the details.....what 2 do?

 

I think part of the problem is that people are too spoiled. Some authors will post once a week with large amounts of time between series while others will occasionally update. If people weren't so spoiled, they'd realize that two or three chapters a week is f**king awesome.

[Mark Arbour]

I, for one, am enjoying the slightly slower posting pace.

 

 

How come when you say that, no one gives you a gazillion negative rep points?

 

Well the slower posting pace i wonder how many days it'll be?? Saturday was chapter 1, and now were at tuesday going on wednesday for chapter 2....although i want details i want more chapters...im in such a toss up in whether to harass mark to post another chapter or console him on posting slow for the details.....what 2 do?

 

 

Probably next up will be another chapter of Bloodlines. I've got Belvidera off on a direction, but I want some time to consider whether it's where I want it to go. Hence the slower posting pace. Still, Chapter 2 should be up on or around Friday.

 

I think part of the problem is that people are too spoiled. Some authors will post once a week with large amounts of time between series while others will occasionally update. If people weren't so spoiled, they'd realize that two or three chapters a week is f**king awesome.

 

 

Thanks Tiger. Part of the problem is that I'm busy. It's the end of the semester, I'm in the middle of finals, and managing three separate proposals through what feels like a million committees. I love you guys, but real life always has to have priority.

 

 

[sat8997]

How come when you say that, no one gives you a gazillion negative rep points?

 

Hello!!

 

<------------- *points left*

 

Duh! Goddess...

[Mark M]

Yes real life does have priorety, mark i am afraid i have no idea what you do for a living??? It almost seems like G.A is your life....Not that, that is a bad thing. Facebook and G.A are my life in a nutshell.....school i wish was just not part of my life. Plus i'm in finals....so i may or may not have time to even Check on G.A till late everyday and even then i cant chat on G.A Chat

 

 

[Enric]

mark i am afraid i have no idea what you do for a living??? It almost seems like G.A is your life

 

 

actually, Mark just gave a lot of identifying information.

He obviously works as teacher, presumably at college level. He *might* have his own occupation as background to JP's professional life. And JP actually is his 'first' protagonist character here, as I gathered it.

[Tiger]

He says he's a college professor, though not of history. He doesn't say what subject, and I've never asked. I wonder what.

[Mark Arbour]

He says he's a college professor, though not of history. He doesn't say what subject, and I've never asked. I wonder what.

 

Finance and Economics. Because you asked.

[Tiger]

Finance and Economics. Because you asked.

 

The one branch where liberals are a minority. How ironic.

[Enric]

Finance and Economics. Because you asked.

 

oh.

we have here a marketing professor, a total gay....

born in about 1970.

his first name is equivalent to 'Henric', but of course he is widely known as aunt Henrietta.

[Mark M]

Lol well best of luck wrapping up the semester guys!! Ima go hurt someone get thrown in jail so finals can SUCK IT! So if u here about a stupid canadian....it's probably be avoiding finals.

[KJames]

Finance and Economics. Because you asked.

 

I sort of had the feeling that might have been your field...you have now, what, 6 people in the story who are or were very good at economic planning? Just with characters that have been integrated into the story. Then there are all the people who work for Stef in his financial enterprise, not on the real estate side, but the investing/capital funding stuff...

Edited December 10, 2009 by kjames

[amBIguoustwo]

Finance and Economics. Because you asked.

 

Another reason why I like you! A good finance and economics teacher is a great thing. I was blessed at Syracuse as an undergraduate to discover a great finance professor and a great economics professor. I took anything and everything they taught. One course I ended up building the demand function for education in the United States using regression analysis. In another course, he had me do an oral final exam (stop it you guys, I don't me that kind of oral exam) by the doctoral candidates who had just defended their dissertations. Very intense, but a great experience. Cool stuff.

 

Bryan

Edited December 11, 2009 by amBIguoustwo

[Mark Arbour]

Another reason why I like you! A good finance and economics teacher is a great thing. I was blessed at Syracuse as an undergraduate to discover a great finance professor and a great economics professor. I took anything and everything they taught. One course I ended up building the demand function for education in the United States using regression analysis. In another course, he had me do an oral final exam (stop it you guys, I don't me that kind of oral exam) by the doctoral candidates who had just defended their dissertations. Very intense, but a great experience. Cool stuff.

 

Bryan

 

 

Oral exams. Now there's an idea. I've made it through another semester without molesting anyone. Kudos to me!

[Tiger]

Hmmmm... Friday begins in a half hour here. *Crosses fingers*

[Enric]

ch2: what a satisfaction

[Tiger]

Chapter 2 began with a most awkward scene with Calvert and Caroline. It seems that while Caroline is bitter, she is willing to compromise even knowing that her husband will be with men while he was at sea. It seems that Arthur shares Caroline's jealousy, which seems much to George's dismay even as he found this out right after having his cock buried deep in Arthur's arse. And of course we have Caroline's arrival at the ship. She seems most impressed. One would guess that Chapter 3 will find HMS Belvidera at sea once again where she belongs. Overall, good chapter, but some sex with Calvert would have been nice.

[Conner]

Chapter 2 was supreme! Simply supreme! Yes, I sound more gay when I've been thoeoughly entertained!

 

I loved the opening scene with Calvert and Caroline. Calvert is a sweetheart! caroline was most gracious. I'm sure that wasn't easy for her.

 

So it turns out Arthur was a willing participant in Caroline's plotting. I think Granger set him straight, though. Any fantasy he has of having Granger for himself needed to be dispelled.

 

I must conclude from the closing sentence of this chapter that Caroline is once again "knocked-up".

 

I thought chapter 2 would never be posted.

 

Bravo, Mark!!

[Mark Arbour]

Chapter 2 began with a most awkward scene with Calvert and Caroline. It seems that while Caroline is bitter, she is willing to compromise even knowing that her husband will be with men while he was at sea. It seems that Arthur shares Caroline's jealousy, which seems much to George's dismay even as he found this out right after having his cock buried deep in Arthur's arse. And of course we have Caroline's arrival at the ship. She seems most impressed. One would guess that Chapter 3 will find HMS Belvidera at sea once again where she belongs. Overall, good chapter, but some sex with Calvert would have been nice.

 

One could guess that. One might be wrong.

 

 

Chapter 2 was supreme! Simply supreme! Yes, I sound more gay when I've been thoeoughly entertained!

 

I loved the opening scene with Calvert and Caroline. Calvert is a sweetheart! caroline was most gracious. I'm sure that wasn't easy for her.

 

So it turns out Arthur was a willing participant in Caroline's plotting. I think Granger set him straight, though. Any fantasy he has of having Granger for himself needed to be dispelled.

 

I must conclude from the closing sentence of this chapter that Caroline is once again "knocked-up".

 

I thought chapter 2 would never be posted.

 

Bravo, Mark!!

 

Thanks Conner! I honestly didn't have her "knocked-up" yet...either in the story or in my mind...but someone as handsome as George really does need to breed.

[Mark M]

Loved the refrence to Lord devonshire. The movie-The Dutchess, who is non other then kira knightly, married him(arranged) and could not bare a male child to his estate.

 

I'm Afraid if 600,000 pounds is alot of money, how much has granger aquired???? Usualy a ship in though's days (depending on size and type) can be from 25,000-100,000 pounds very easily, of course it would be spread between everyone, but i'm sure granger gets at least 20-40% of the profits for capturing.

 

Caroline, i like her she's inteligent, i do not however, like calverts proposition and carolines easy acceptance. Religion was strong back then, soddomy seems not to be so....hated and dispised apon afterall, a man gets caught and is allowed to leave the country...not very realistic is it?

 

Anyway i am begining to worry about what arthur might do, he kind of freeks me out. Mr. Jardens(spelling?) has left to india....hmmmm i wonder what spencer has in mind for india these days?? I can only guess that bertie will be demoted or repremanded......and what ever did happen to the wilcoxes? are they run out of britian and her navey like the Earl told granger? Frankly i miss the quarrel. Granger in charge...for some reason i'm reminising of him serving and him doing a more self fulfilling job. Wierd.

 

I think granger needs in fact, to lose a ship perhaps? this good luck is rare. I'd hate for him to return to Britian with a fleet rather then just HIS ship. It would however to find a ship in BETTER condition to his, and his damaged or something and him taking this other ship and coming back with it rather than his current one which i will not spell because it's difficult and i have a walmart education(only cuz i worked there) HAHA!!

 

Anyway Enjoyed the Chapter, and it's lengthy glory! Can't wait for the next.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~Mark M~~~~~

 

P.S: Dutchess...good political movie!

[Mark Arbour]

Loved the refrence to Lord devonshire. The movie-The Dutchess, who is non other then kira knightly, married him(arranged) and could not bare a male child to his estate.

 

I'm Afraid if 600,000 pounds is alot of money, how much has granger aquired???? Usualy a ship in though's days (depending on size and type) can be from 25,000-100,000 pounds very easily, of course it would be spread between everyone, but i'm sure granger gets at least 20-40% of the profits for capturing.

 

Caroline, i like her she's inteligent, i do not however, like calverts proposition and carolines easy acceptance. Religion was strong back then, soddomy seems not to be so....hated and dispised apon afterall, a man gets caught and is allowed to leave the country...not very realistic is it?

 

Anyway i am begining to worry about what arthur might do, he kind of freeks me out. Mr. Jardens(spelling?) has left to india....hmmmm i wonder what spencer has in mind for india these days?? I can only guess that bertie will be demoted or repremanded......and what ever did happen to the wilcoxes? are they run out of britian and her navey like the Earl told granger? Frankly i miss the quarrel. Granger in charge...for some reason i'm reminising of him serving and him doing a more self fulfilling job. Wierd.

 

I think granger needs in fact, to lose a ship perhaps? this good luck is rare. I'd hate for him to return to Britian with a fleet rather then just HIS ship. It would however to find a ship in BETTER condition to his, and his damaged or something and him taking this other ship and coming back with it rather than his current one which i will not spell because it's difficult and i have a walmart education(only cuz i worked there) HAHA!!

 

Anyway Enjoyed the Chapter, and it's lengthy glory! Can't wait for the next.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~Mark M~~~~~

 

P.S: Dutchess...good political movie!

 

Well that's a long post with a lot of questions. I love it. I'll answer a few (I'm tired).

 

I don't think Caroline's reaction to Granger's side interests is all that unrealistic. Sharon's the one to ask. I channel her when I think of Caroline Granger. I wonder if she's that randy?

 

Prize ships in those days were sold at auction. For a merchant prize, the cargo was often worth more than the ship. The Captain got a percentage of the prize value. The Belvidera, to build and equip, probably cost about 15,000 pounds. Here's an excerpt from the Wiki entry on Prize Money (It's correct):

 

 

The following scheme for distribution of prize money was used for much of the Napoleonic wars, the heyday of prize warfare. Allocation was by eighths. Two eighths of the prize money went to the captain, generally propelling him upwards in political and financial circles. One eighth of the money went to the admiral who signed the ship's written orders (unless the orders came directly from the Admiralty in London, in which case this eighth also went to the captain). One eighth was divided among the the lieutenants, sailing master, and captain of marines if any. One eighth was divided among the wardroom warrant officers (surgeon, purser, and chaplain), standing warrant officers (carpenter, boatswain, andgunner), lieutenant of marines, and the master's mates. One eighth was divided among the junior warrant and petty officers, their mates, sergeants of marines, captain's clerk, surgeon's mates, and midshipmen. The final two eighths were divided among the crew, with able and specialist seamen receiving larger shares than ordinary seamen, landsmen, and boys.^[1]

 

As complex as this scheme was, it was replaced by one of even greater complexity in the reforms of 1808. In this process, the admiral (if there was one) received one third of the captain's share, the captain received two eighths, the wardroom officers one eighth, the standing warrant officers received one eighth and the remaining half was distributed among the rest of the crew, based on their ranks, not evenly.^[2]

 

 

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Perhaps the greatest amount of prize money awarded was for the capture of the Spanish frigate Hermione on May 31, 1762 by the British frigate Active and sloop Favourite. The two captains, Sawyer and Pownall, received about

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To give you an idea of what they were paid. This does not include various deduction see Historical Maritime Society from whence the following come from.

 

 

Printed below are the rates of pay for a sixth rate such as the TRINCOMALEE in 1815. These are paid per lunar month.

 

Captain -

[Mark Arbour]

To give you an idea of what they were paid. This does not include various deduction see Historical Maritime Society from whence the following come from.

 

 

Printed below are the rates of pay for a sixth rate such as the TRINCOMALEE in 1815. These are paid per lunar month.

 

Captain -

[Tiger]

Interesting info! Those are significantly higher than those that were in place in 1795-6. After "The Great Mutiny" of 1797, pay went up a lot (for the seamen). If I drum up some of the other numbers, I'll let you know.

 

I'm looking forward to it.