Tiger Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 I was just thinking about the whole issue with Brian. Obviously, Brian is downright evil. It leads me to wonder whether or not JP should have him dealt with once and for all. Also, how would everyone react to him doing so? After all, Brian is still family even if he is evil. What should JP do or not do? My thought is that he should have Brian taken care of. Perhaps there could be an explosion that looks like an accident that takes out Alex, her son, and Brian. It's been a while since JP has resorted to such, but I'm sure he's considering it by now.
Caedus Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 (edited) A single suppressed gunshot to the head/chest would do it. It would be way more climatic if JP killed him himself. JP may of changed over the decades, but his sense of responsibility is the same and the fact that Brian makes it even more important that he handle this himself. How shocking would it be that when the drama and tension reaches it's peak that JP comes out of nowhere and takes care of business with his own hands? I don't know what happened with Brian that made him so crazy. In the beginning it seemed like he was a younger, southern version of JP. I know his relationship with Cody kinda messed him up, but that doesn't explain the shift.... Anyways, if anyones gonna kill Brian, it would probably be best for it to be JP. Edited October 8, 2010 by Caedus
mmike1969 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 You would think that someone outside the family would get suspicious with the dead bodies that trail this family... If JP does not take care of the problem, I think the wicked step-mom just might take care of Brian when the stock market crashes and takes the family fortune away... Just saying.
Mark Arbour Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 That's an interesting idea, but you have to dive into JP's psyche. Do you really see him having a family member knocked off? He still, even now, grapples with the guilt he carries over Jeff, and not doing enough to help him.
methodwriter85 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 That's an interesting idea, but you have to dive into JP's psyche. Do you really see him having a family member knocked off? He still, even now, grapples with the guilt he carries over Jeff, and not doing enough to help him. This is one of those moments where I REALLY wished Adam had the time to post. I would love to see Adam's reaction to that line. Personally, I can't see JP doing it. And I'm still thinking Brian is not totally evil. He's a villain, yes, but I don't think he's gotten to the point of no-return like Neil did. He'd cut total contact with him and disown him, but he wouldn't actually have him killed.
Tiger Posted October 8, 2010 Author Posted October 8, 2010 That's an interesting idea, but you have to dive into JP's psyche. Do you really see him having a family member knocked off? He still, even now, grapples with the guilt he carries over Jeff, and not doing enough to help him. Didn't he basically decide that Brian was no longer part of the family?
Canuk Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I realise that in certain parts of the world "taking people out" or "whacking" them is still an option, however I would hope that JP is able to come up with a far more intelligent response to this man's villianry.... I think punishments where people have the rest of their lives to reflect on the decisions they made is a FAR better result than a simple period to said life.....
methodwriter85 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 The other interesting quirk about this...aside from being his brother, Brian is supposed to be an exact replica of JP at that age. I think JP can't be objective about Brian because he sees himself there. Another interesting thing- wasn't the orginial set-up about CAP the fact that JP was actually a bit of a sociopath? It'd be interesting if it turns out that Brian is basically a JP who just never learned to play by the rules the way a successful socipath can.
Tiger Posted October 9, 2010 Author Posted October 9, 2010 The other interesting quirk about this...aside from being his brother, Brian is supposed to be an exact replica of JP at that age. I think JP can't be objective about Brian because he sees himself there. Another interesting thing- wasn't the orginial set-up about CAP the fact that JP was actually a bit of a sociopath? It'd be interesting if it turns out that Brian is basically a JP who just never learned to play by the rules the way a successful socipath can. Well, sociopaths have this tendency to kill people without remorse, at least the ones who become fixated with murder in any way...
rjo Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Maybe have Brian kidnapped and spend the rest of his life with Aaron. I think Aunt Alex punishing him would be much more fun.
centexhairysub Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I really do believe that JP will have to be the one to deal with Brian. It will be something that he has to do himself. I think sometimes though there are worse things to do to someone then kill them. I think Brian has a lot of anger over the fact that his and JP's biological father abandoned him, however has anyone ever established that Bill Hendrickson actually knew about Brian? I never saw JP as a sociopath. His behaviour in the early stories never really suggested that to me. He was able to compartmentalize his life but he never really did anything or had anything done to someone without a reason, usually either protecting himself or someone that he cared about.
methodwriter85 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 (edited) I really do believe that JP will have to be the one to deal with Brian. It will be something that he has to do himself. I think sometimes though there are worse things to do to someone then kill them. I think Brian has a lot of anger over the fact that his and JP's biological father abandoned him, however has anyone ever established that Bill Hendrickson actually knew about Brian? I never saw JP as a sociopath. His behaviour in the early stories never really suggested that to me. He was able to compartmentalize his life but he never really did anything or had anything done to someone without a reason, usually either protecting himself or someone that he cared about. I think that was SUPPOSED to be the intention, but then Mark changed his mind and tried to soften up JP as the saga went on. And there are non-violent sociopaths...mainly the successful ones who learn to play by society rules. They say non-violent socipaths make great CEO's or politicians. Brian spend the rest of his life with Aaron? Aaron's in his mid-70's. I think there's maybe another ten years left in Aaron's life. Maybe. I think what would be interesting would be if JP somehow set it up that Brian got caught with drugs in customs, and had to spend the rest of his life in some Taiwanese prison or something. Edited October 9, 2010 by methodwriter85
Mark Arbour Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I think that was SUPPOSED to be the intention, but then Mark changed his mind and tried to soften up JP as the saga went on. And there are non-violent sociopaths...mainly the successful ones who learn to play by society rules. They say non-violent socipaths make great CEO's or politicians. Brian spend the rest of his life with Aaron? Aaron's in his mid-70's. I think there's maybe another ten years left in Aaron's life. Maybe. I think what would be interesting would be if JP somehow set it up that Brian got caught with drugs in customs, and had to spend the rest of his life in some Taiwanese prison or something. I don't recall changing my mind at all. One of the major themes of this whole saga has been JP's development into a person who has a soul.
methodwriter85 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Right, right. So Brian's basically a JP who has yet to develop a soul, and maybe won't ever do so. Brian's about 26 or 27 at this time of the story- the same age JP was at the start of CAP.
mmike1969 Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 (edited) There is time for Brian to gain a soul... Maybe when he lose access to the money, he might start to have one. Or maybe I should start thinking along the lines of his funeral. Is it open casket or not? Do we really need more then a few chairs at the cemetery? What kind of snacks for the party wake? Edited October 9, 2010 by mmike1969
Canuk Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I think that was SUPPOSED to be the intention, but then Mark changed his mind and tried to soften up JP as the saga went on. And there are non-violent sociopaths...mainly the successful ones who learn to play by society rules. They say non-violent socipaths make great CEO's or politicians. M'writer85, I have to disagree tho' I understand where it is possible to get the impression that JP's "softened". JP seems to be as inward focussed as ever however as he is not now the focus of the last few chapters we only seem him when he does interact, or more appropriatly he is forced to interact with others. This, to me, shows JP to be the same as ever with only the slightest of changes due to age and his expanding family. He is the same great mate, awful acquaintance and truly scary enemy he has always been.
Hermetically Sealed Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I wouldn't call JP a sociopath. He feels empathy and guilt, after all. I'd say he's more emotionally awkward. He was brought up to be reserved, but winds up associating with a large group of people who don't know the meaning of the word, it's only natural that displaying those emotions himself is uncomfortable. While we did get a bit wild once he was truly on his own, it didn't take long for him to realize that he (and Jason) was getting out of control, and he backed away. A sociopath may have understood what he was doing that was unacceptable, but wouldn't have felt anything bad about it. Personally, I can't see JP killing Brian unless he attempts to actually murder one of the family. I think he will always hope deep inside that Brian will wake up and make a change in his life, but that doesn't mean he'll save Brian from his own folly.
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