[Andrew_Q_Gordon] The Trial of Jordan Colmar

[MJ85]

Hehe, like I said, anything else that comes out of it will just be gravy! (Or maybe it should be the icing on the cake - would that be a better metaphor? )

[Andrew Q Gordon]

Hehe, like I said, anything else that comes out of it will just be gravy! (Or maybe it should be the icing on the cake - would that be a better metaphor? )

 

MJ.

 

Sorry I missed this, been a bit of a hectic time for us. Either metaphor works for me, I like food.

 

[Andrew Q Gordon]

With the Anthology going live today, I've decided to wait a few days to post chapter four. Now go read the Anthology.

[Benji]

...................You are an evil man, I saw this post up, and thought oh boy, a new chapter!!

[Conner]

Me too.

[Andrew Q Gordon]

Fine, I'll post it later today, just for you two

 

Feel better? Please?

[Benji]

..............Returns Andy semi-hero status!! Edited September 18, 2011 by Benji

[Andrew Q Gordon]

Bowing to the extreme pressure from B-man and Conner - I've post Chapter 4: The Defense.

 

https://www.gayauthors.org/story/Quonus10/thetrialofjordancolmar/4

 

As I mention in the story - it's a bit of the defense case before we go to closing arguments in Chapter 5

[wildone]

I decided to have a nap when I checked and saw no new chapter

 

Imagine my surprise when I woke up an hour later

 

Dreams do come true

[Benji]

.... The expediency of this trial is warranted yet a bit un-furfilling, you scarped through Jordan's testimony and totally disregarded the last testimony of Mr. Portman, The gaps are full, the trial moves dead ahead without those gaps filled. Otherwise a great chapter!

[Andrew Q Gordon]

I decided to have a nap when I checked and saw no new chapter

 

Imagine my surprise when I woke up an hour later

 

Dreams do come true

 

Haha, well hopefully this dream isn't a nightmare after you read

 

Thanks Steve.

 

 

.... The expediency of this trial is warranted yet a bit un-furfilling, you scarped through Jordan's testimony and totally disregarded the last testimony of Mr. Portman, The gaps are full, the trial moves dead ahead without those gaps filled. Otherwise a great chapter!

 

You bring up the hardest part of this Benji - The two areas you mention would be anticlimactic - in my mind at least. Especially Jordan's. I once had a fairly big case where the defendant took the stand and just flat out lied. Problem was other than the officer's testimony, I didn't have anything to counter his testimony. So I didn't ask a single question on cross. Shocked the court, my supervisor, the jury and the defense. Basically, I knew he'd been coached well and he was going to stick to his story - lie that it was for all to see. But going over his testimony or trying to find a whole in his testimony would have only given the defense a chance to argue - 'look at how he was on cross, never wavered, never changed his story, you know why? Cause he's telling the truth.' And in fact the defense attorney griped to me afterwards using pretty much those words. My argument was look, he's lying, he has every reason to make up a story and the officers have none. Jury convicted fairly quickly, they didn't believe him. My point is that I think going over the testimony too much more would be boring, at lot of you did such and such right? Yes. And you were doing X Y Z correct? Yes. if there weren't any new facts - like the Coach Williams bit, it wasn't worth getting into. But I know that folks were salivating to see Jordan on the stand - would be boring in my mind - hence Martin thinking Rankin was trying to bore him to sleep so he couldn't cross Jordan.

[Daddydavek]

 

Haha, well hopefully this dream isn't a nightmare after you read

 

Thanks Steve.

 

 

 

 

You bring up the hardest part of this Benji - The two areas you mention would be anticlimactic - in my mind at least. Especially Jordan's. I once had a fairly big case where the defendant took the stand and just flat out lied. Problem was other than the officer's testimony, I didn't have anything to counter his testimony. So I didn't ask a single question on cross. Shocked the court, my supervisor, the jury and the defense. Basically, I knew he'd been coached well and he was going to stick to his story - lie that it was for all to see. But going over his testimony or trying to find a whole in his testimony would have only given the defense a chance to argue - 'look at how he was on cross, never wavered, never changed his story, you know why? Cause he's telling the truth.' And in fact the defense attorney griped to me afterwards using pretty much those words. My argument was look, he's lying, he has every reason to make up a story and the officers have none. Jury convicted fairly quickly, they didn't believe him. My point is that I think going over the testimony too much more would be boring, at lot of you did such and such right? Yes. And you were doing X Y Z correct? Yes. if there weren't any new facts - like the Coach Williams bit, it wasn't worth getting into. But I know that folks were salivating to see Jordan on the stand - would be boring in my mind - hence Martin thinking Rankin was trying to bore him to sleep so he couldn't cross Jordan.

 

While your point is true for the jury who is there day after day, your readers have to wait a week and sometimes miss a week and have to play catch up. A total rehash is probably not in order, a quick background summary would probably be helpful, if just to refresh our memories....

[Andrew Q Gordon]

Dave,

 

Hmm, I suppose you are right about the summary. Problem is as I've said - length. The short story is going to top 30K as it is and people are wondering where's the rest LOL

 

Then again, maybe, I'm not cut out to do court room drama stories, I find a lot of it boring so I gloss over things. You are obviously not the first to wonder where's the rest of the story. Sorry.

[Conner]

 

Haha, well hopefully this dream isn't a nightmare after you read

 

Thanks Steve.

 

 

 

 

You bring up the hardest part of this Benji - The two areas you mention would be anticlimactic - in my mind at least. Especially Jordan's. I once had a fairly big case where the defendant took the stand and just flat out lied. Problem was other than the officer's testimony, I didn't have anything to counter his testimony. So I didn't ask a single question on cross. Shocked the court, my supervisor, the jury and the defense. Basically, I knew he'd been coached well and he was going to stick to his story - lie that it was for all to see. But going over his testimony or trying to find a whole in his testimony would have only given the defense a chance to argue - 'look at how he was on cross, never wavered, never changed his story, you know why? Cause he's telling the truth.' And in fact the defense attorney griped to me afterwards using pretty much those words. My argument was look, he's lying, he has every reason to make up a story and the officers have none. Jury convicted fairly quickly, they didn't believe him. My point is that I think going over the testimony too much more would be boring, at lot of you did such and such right? Yes. And you were doing X Y Z correct? Yes. if there weren't any new facts - like the Coach Williams bit, it wasn't worth getting into. But I know that folks were salivating to see Jordan on the stand - would be boring in my mind - hence Martin thinking Rankin was trying to bore him to sleep so he couldn't cross Jordan.

 

Sure, leave it to you to bring real life considerations into this story!

 

Criminal law has always fascinated me. I find the legal arguments to be the most compelling part of this story, although I'm sure some of the subtleties whoosh right over my head. One of the burdens that the main players have to consider is how might the appellate court see the argument. I would find that exhausting.

[TrevorTime]

Now that the story is nearing the end, I have one wish (or request). I am hoping that we get to learn the fate of the five co-defendants and the length of their sentences. And if Jordan is found guilty, how much time he has coming to him.

 

(not that I plan on assaulting another gay person anytime soon; I am just curious as to how the plea bargain system works and how much time the idiot 5 can save)

[Andrew Q Gordon]

Trevor,

 

In the next chapter you will learn the fate of the some of the other five, you can extrapolate what the others got - basically they all got about the same.

 

As for Jordan - there will be an epilogue, a real epilogue this time that will deal with the aftermath of the verdict. If Jordan is guilty it will be his sentencing, if he's not guilty, it'll show how everyone deals with it.

 

Andy

[Andrew Q Gordon]

https://www.gayauthors.org/forums/story/quonus10/thetrialofjordancolmar/5

 

So, chapter 5 was written and I got it passed the editing team so I figured why not post it. Chapter 6 is in the works, with the hope it will be posted in two weeks.

 

I have a question for all the faithful readers -

 

Would you rather have chapter 6 be just the closing and have the verdict in its own separate chapter? Or would you prefer I post them both together?

 

Comments please -

 

Andy

[TrevorTime]

I'd rather have the verdict in its own separate chapter. But only if we don't have to wait an additional two weeks. The suspense is killing me!

[KevinD]

What TrevorTime said!

[MJ85]

Might be better to have the closing and verdict in one chapter to wrap this up, it'd be one less thing stretching your time.

[Andrew Q Gordon]

I'd rather have the verdict in its own separate chapter. But only if we don't have to wait an additional two weeks. The suspense is killing me!

 

Well IF I split them up I wouldn't post them at the same time so two chapter will be at least 1 week apart - I won't go two if I can help it. One thing to consider, IF I do it as one chapter it might take longer to get any of it out - I do have a 4 day old to take care of right now so making it one chapter probably won't make the verdict part get posted any sooner than if I did it as two chapter - sorry, but it's just how it is right now.

 

 

What TrevorTime said!

 

What I said to Trevor

 

Seriously does it change the equation if it means you have to wait longer for the next installment if I combine the two?

Might be better to have the closing and verdict in one chapter to wrap this up, it'd be one less thing stretching your time.

 

See above - but I don't think it will make it happen all that much sooner, but who knows.

 

Thanks for the comments, I think the common theme is finish sooner

[Benji]

http://www.gayauthor...fjordancolmar/5

 

So, chapter 5 was written and I got it passed the editing team so I figured why not post it. Chapter 6 is in the works, with the hope it will be posted in two weeks.

 

I have a question for all the faithful readers -

 

Would you rather have chapter 6 be just the closing and have the verdict in its own separate chapter? Or would you prefer I post them both together?

 

Comments please -

 

Andy

 

 

......... I'd prefer to see a prolongation of a chapter, but that said I think a the closing followed by a verdict needs a closure here. 'Daddy' needs to be indicted after the verdict and then closure can be complete in this saga. The 'off shore account' needs to be

made known here.

[TrevorTime]

Here's an interesting question; more Second Shot related, but I will go ahead and put it in this forum.

 

Who is on the hook for all of Pete's medical bills? After all, he did have somewhat of a lengthy stay in the hospital. I'd say that if Jordan is convicted, then Daddy Colmar should have to pay for it. According to the SS story, he does own several strip malls. But after D.A. Pratner gets through with him, I doubt he will have much of a bank account.

[Andrew Q Gordon]

 

 

......... I'd prefer to see a prolongation of a chapter, but that said I think a the closing followed by a verdict needs a closure here. 'Daddy' needs to be indicted after the verdict and then closure can be complete in this saga. The 'off shore account' needs to be

made known here.

 

Gracious B-man you want a lot. No promises on Daddy Colmar being indicted or the off shore account fleshed out. We'll see. I've decided that I'll wait and see how long 6 get's with the closing. If it's too long, then the verdict will be a separate chapter 7.

 

 

Here's an interesting question; more Second Shot related, but I will go ahead and put it in this forum.

 

Who is on the hook for all of Pete's medical bills? After all, he did have somewhat of a lengthy stay in the hospital. I'd say that if Jordan is convicted, then Daddy Colmar should have to pay for it. According to the SS story, he does own several strip malls. But after D.A. Pratner gets through with him, I doubt he will have much of a bank account.

 

I would say that Peter probably had insurance through the school, I know I did as part of my student fees. Also, his mom is a teacher and you know how good their insurance is. And then if all else fails there is always Raymond Henry - but no Daddy Colmar is NOT liable for the actions of his adult son. Only Jordan has liability for the injury - that and the other 5 who were convicted.

[Daddydavek]

I want it all in one chapter. PLEASE! PRETTY PLEASE!

 

Oh, by the way, are you or Mike getting family leave to stay home with the newborn? Just remember

babies sleep most of the time but wake up about every 4 hours for feedings the first 3 month. At 6 months

they start taking a lot more time as they are awake more!