NightOwl88

*Hugs Ceadus* good to see you here.

lol I'm talking about the main guy in your story, I don't remember his name, i think you've only mentioned it about twice lol. I agree, maybe you will get more fans in here, I am pretty surprised that Nephy and Ceadus haven't stopped in.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOHN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the advice Ricky, I've been using salt water for a few days, under my grandmothers orders. That with my anit-bi's I'm doing very nicely. thanks for the kind words, I myself have a tendancy to re-read a good book/story several times myself. I admit I never considered making Uncle Scott gay, it just never occured to me. He comes off flamboyant because he's...well not immature but he's easy going, carefree and MAYBE a little Metro. I think if he showed up dressed like that william would shoot him...and I have plans for Scott. I can't make such a big deal about the violin and then tourch it...that would be cruel...I'll just find some other nerve to prick if need be. i can't have Annie and Willaim in conflict too much...not yet. And NO I can't have William and Scott being a ONS lol, as interesting at that sounds. Best, Nightowl.

Hey all, sorry it's taken me so long to get ehre, I've been dealing with Strep lately and it's been draining my life force. i hope you don't mind a mass reply. Sam isn't really a bitch...she's just bitchy lol. In all honesty what friendship ISN'T complicated on some level...her's and Billy's is just a little more so lol. I wanted there to be a point in the story that really showed how well Billy was doing rather then just talking about it. It will keep up...to an extent at least. Dad...The stick is the least of William's problems, in reality it would probably just make matters worse. Uncle Scott will stir things up...but we'll have to see as to what extent. Uncle Scott being gay..that's an angle I hadn't considered....I could play with that lol. I'll have more out to you as soon as I can. Hey Ricky, sorry for making you have to go backa nd re-read, I'll work on going faster. I am glad you were so saited with the chapter though. It is quite scary isn't William ISN'T the type to let someone get one over on him; we'll get back to that later. Though I promise you the violin WILL NOT be having a firey funeral. I'm sorry about your issues with Mr. Harvey, I'm happy to hear that he got the point. Hello Lin, good to see you. I am glad that you loved the chapter. Billy standing up to William was the highest point in the chapter I think, I'm glad it's been so well recieved. The boys standing up for Billy...well I had to induldge my overly protective nature there; it's something I would do. Uncle Scott...seems everyone is looking forward to that.. i do hope I won't dissapoint with that. Sam will come around...eventually. I understand about the shock, I've been there lol. I'm glad you are fan, I enjoy hearing from you. Thank you all for stopping in and giving me you're thoughts, you know how much that means to me. Best Wishes, NightOwl

Hey Altmexis, I am really glad you liked the story and that you think so highly of it, I truely appreciate it. It was my first attempt at fantasy that has actually paid off, all my others failed spectacularly.

Hmm, I should let you know that if Anthony oes back on this whole thing AGAIN I'm likely to throtle him just for kicks lol. I liked the chapter it was a pretty good one. Kieth is becoming interesting; I'm ever more curious as to what he'll be doing later in the story. I don't have much more to say right now, I'm sorta out of it. Best. Nightowl

Hello All, I just wanted to let you know all know that Indiana Sumemr Ch10 is up. I hope you all enjoy it. Feel free to let me know what you think. Link Indiana Summer Ch10 Best, Nightowl

Hello Graeme, I am glad you stopped by. I am glad that you liked the level of backround detail. I wanted to give enough history to explain the current climate of Alvar/Human society without giving a full break down. Demara, i loved her too, I think I might have had my Grandma in mind when I wrote her, she has something of a prickly disposition too. I wanted to kind of dispell the misconceptions that Merek had been raised with concerning the Alvar and I thought it would be good to use the collections as a subtle way of doing it. The gifts, while they helped with that, also were more to show that some of the Alvar didn't believe the propaganda about Humans being lieing, decietful mongrels . The Alvar, usually being very family oriented, tend to pass down grudges and prejudice through the generations. It takes a lot to break the cycle I've actually be thinking of a few Alvar Universe Stories, a few I can't mention cause they sort of tie to Outcasts but I've thought about going back and explaining the Great Division. Thanks again for dropping Graeme. Best, NightOwl

Hey Red_A, I am glad you like the story. thanks for stopping in and giving me your thoughts, they are vastly appreciated. Hey Bugeye, thanks for coming in. I'm glad you liked the story. II was really iffy on posting it but I am glad that it's coming out good. I wrote it with the concept of belonging and family in mind. thanks for stopping in guys. Best, NightOwl

A very good story. The end was nice but it was the start that go me to be honest. I think the idea of being old, and alone is something that everyone can identify with. A very nice story.

Good chapter Young Sage. I thought it was pretty funny myself, Dude is wonderfully oblivious lol. At least he is if my assumptions are correct. I don't think its odd that the sock thing has never been mentioned by your previous male readers. Most guys don't want to discuss their masterbation habits, or really consider the subject outside of their own world. I've actually found it funny how often socks get sued though in that way. Anyhow, good chapter, best wishes, NightOwl

Hey Benji, sorry it's taken me so long to get it got busy here for a few days. You know me, i like to keep things interesting. I've siad it before but Tom might be the most well formed character I have ever written, i knew from the start exactly what would be happening with him. I think though that you have an ever better grasp of Tom's psyche then I do though, you seem to have analyzed him very well. Indeed in the world of his sketches having the tables turned on him is exactly what you say, his salvation, as well as punishment. What I haven't described, but will shortly, is his reasons for looking for help. i can't mention them here as that would ruin the surprise but I will chronicle them in the next chapter. Max...what can I say he is good, always has to be at the forefront of the line, has to catch anyone who is falling. But will that come back to bite him in the butt. i wonder.... Thanks for stopping in Benji, you (and all the rest of my friends) mean a lot me.

Very nice Nephylim, very nice. I agree with Cia, the venom pumping scene was very intense, very well done. Beautifully written, wonderfully descriptive.

Ok that was great, i mean it was odd, but it was great. I've often wondering if something like that could actually be taking place...I'm not sure how much i belive in Alien life but like they said, stranger things have happened. Good work James.

Great story Cia, thanks for sharing it with us. I loved the way tou incorperated the theme of the antho into the story, it was very well done. Sean and Jason have a very real feel to them. I enjoyed it.

*Waves at Pheonix* Loved the chapter Young Sage. I really enjoyed Anthony's classic anti-gay tirade, like I said it was classic. I hope he has a better time of it now though. His yo-yoing ws give me a headache, but I understand his frustrations. Looking forward to next friday. Best, nightOwl

Hello to all my propective readers. I hope you enjoy the story.

Other then his sketches I cannot comment on what position Tom will find himself in in the future. Yes a new character for him, though thats not my only reason to introduce him. I wouldn't want Keith anyway, he strikes me more as an aggressive, exclusive bottom. Sorry lol. I can't tell you who the character is, hell it could be Max or Josh, but you'll never get it out of me HA. You and Nephy plotting my death is MORE then enough reason for me to keep Tom from going rainbow on us...well TOO rainbow at least. i am glad that you don't see Max as a hero or something too good to be true, not because it relieves me own worries/conceptions but because its your honest opinion, I love that. One could argue though that since Max was so victimized in Chicago (it gets explained more later). Max does need Josh as much as Josh needs him, i think that is something everyone can agree on. Perhaps the imbalance is only something I percived. thanks for stopping in Young sage. Best, NightOwl

We are not them though dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We might like it lol. I'm jking, if you want to re-write it do it but keep us informed lol PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude...that is just evil. I like it lol.

hey Nephy, its so nice to see you here. I am glad that you find the thread interesting, I'd like to continue with that lol. Tom maybe the most thought out character I have. I've fleshed most others out in my head but there is always something missing with them but Tom, at least in thought, is fully formed. I have everything he will become and will do worked up already. I would really like to see his sketches too, even though i am the one who imagined them, but alas I have no artistic talent. Its more then a suggestion, Tom WILL be getting close to a future character, but as to WHO it will be is a surprise. I can't comment on what change might go through his drawings. Maybe imbalance isn't the appropriate word, or perhaps thats just how I see it. Their personality differences are, while not complamentary, work well with eachother. You have a point though the savior doesn't ALWAYS need to save someone. That is something I have been worrying about Max seeming too good to be true, though at the moment I don't see how to rectify that. I think Josh seems more real because he DOES have more insecurities than Max, who always seems so calm and confident, people have issues, like Josh. Tom...well i admit I like Tom, but thats cause I know everything about him...well almost everything. Fay lol, i wrote too much of my cousin Katie into her, though there are some deffinate differences, such as Fay's ability to have prudence. best Wishes, NightOwl

Hello Ceadus, it's good to see you in the Topic. I hope You'll be a regular here. I'm really glad you stopped in and that you have so much to say. I am glad that you have shown such a deep interest in Tom, I've been worring about him to be honest. Tom's sketches are a big part of him, even though the talent isn't a well known fact. I sort of modled it after a mental exercise I read about once called 'Eradicating Demons', you make a representation of something that is wrong or troubling you, usually a painting or drawing and then you destroy it. You're supposed to pour your negative feelings into the work and by destroying it it helps you move past it. Only in Tom's case instead of destroying the sketches he keeps them as a way of working out his secret desires. Tom will be making more appearances later in the story after the introduction of another character in the near future and his sketch work will play a very big part of his character. Max...yes Max is a 'hero'he can't stand to see someone else hurting and he does have a natural talent for helping others. You're right though, it is both a blessing and a curse, he gets TOO involved and doesn't keep objective enough, doesn't always think things through in his rush to help. I wouldn't say that his helping people thing is what led him to Josh, Josh and Frank actually made the initial contact with Max, Max's 'heroness' came about later in the friendship; but it did/does play large role int heir friendship. I agree with you, their relationship is somewhat unbalanced, thats a character development I am working on actually lol. Josh he is indeed dependant on Max, to him Max is the only person who has ever pushed him, made him 'better'. I wrote a bit much of my former self into Josh, I had insecurity and esteem issues when i was younger, and still struggle with them from time to time. I am currently working more on Josh, his main problem is that he has nothing that defines him, nothing that he excels at; unlike the rest of the characters. I plan on Josh asserting himself more often and becoming more confident in future chapters. I just can't be specific here for ruining the story lol. I thank you so much for stopping in and giving me your thoughts, they have given me many things to think about. I hope you enjoy where I take the story and the characters in future chapters. Best, NightOwl.

Hey Yall. i know it took a bit to get this out to you but Max and Josh 17 is now up in the E-fiction section. I hope you all enjoy it. I should warn you though that this chapter contain's some disturbing imagery and themes. It includes mention and slight description of rape, sexual abusive, extreme violence and attempted suicide. These WILL NOT be common themes in the story but will make appearances, in this chapter and in others in the future, read with caution. Max and Josh CH17

The Great Tea Cup war, that's pretty funny. Though I have to admit the idea of Keith ordering around Shawn and Anthony is interesting. I loved the cliff at the end, my guess is the shirt worked well and it just crushed Anthony. If not though thats cool, it has to be something big though for him to go to Shawn. I look forward to finding out. As for Shawn seeing a shrink, thats an interesting plot point, kid has some serious issues. Best, Nightowl

WOO HOO I'm the first person to post in the thread. AWESOME!!!! I'm enjoying the story. I've never read a story about a writer who is writing a story, it's an interesting concept. Nick is...well Nick is a little full of himself but you have to be to some extent to be a writer anyway lol. At the moment I don't have much more to say at this point in time but expect me to be here more often. Best, Nightowl. P.S You should let folks know the thread is here.