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Writing Tip: Grammar Rodeo #1


Renee Stevens

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Today's blog is courtesy of Cia! Ever wondered which is the correct word to use when faced with lay/lie? You're not alone and Cia has put together a very informative blog entry to help, it even includes tips and tricks for when you're really not sure. Thanks Cia for taking the time to give us Grammar Rodeo #1!

Grammar Rodeo #1


Tips and Tricks for wrangling those Pesky Word Choices!

 


Who and Whom
Okay, I hate this one, even though it’s relatively simple! Let’s make it easy: Who is used as a subject of the verb. It describes the person doing whatever the action word says is happening. Whom is the object of the verb. That means whatever the action is, it is happening to that person.

 

Examples:
Rick just knew who spilled the beans. (Who spilled the beans—so they did the action spilled the beans)
Rick has a crush on whom? (The subject he ‘has’ a crush is on the whom in this sentence)

 

Easy Tip: Substitute he and him. If he sounds better, you usually use the word who. If him sounds better, you usually use the word whom.

 

Examples:
Rick just knew he spilled the beans. or Rick just knew him spilled the beans.
Rick has a crush on he? or Rick has a crush on him?

 

Lay vs. Lie
This is another one I constantly flub, much to my dismay. Both are very similar, but, when used correctly, lay and lie indicate very different things.

 

Lay means to put an object down. That means the subject is putting the object—book, pillow, plate—down on something.

 

Lie means to be, rest, assume a horizontal position. So that means the subject’s bod is actually in that position, and not moving an object.

 

The water gets a LOT murkier when you start hitting past tense because lay becomes laid and lie becomes lay. Yep, gotta love the English language. And there’s more below, after the present and past examples, so keep reading!

 

Tip: What the subject (character) is doing is key in knowing which to use, no matter what tense you’re writing in. If the subject is moving themselves, you use lie (present) or lay (past). If the subject (character) is moving an object you use lay (present) or laid (past).

 

Examples:

 

Present tense:
I lay down the pencil beside my completed paper. (the pencil is being lay down by I)
I lie down after an exhausting homework session. (the person “I” is moving to lie down)

 

Past tense:
I laid down the pencil beside my completed paper. (The person, I, put the pencil down)
I lay down after an exhausting homework session. (The person, I, hit the sheets after the homework session)

 

There are present and past participles too, depending on ‘helping’ verbs, just to make it even more fun, but the rule still stands on what is moving into that horizontal position.

 

Examples:

 

Present Participle:
I am laying the pencil down beside my completed paper. (helping verb: am)
I was lying down after an exhausting homework session. (helping verb: was)

 

Past Participle:
I had laid down the pencil beside my completed paper. (helping verb: had)
I had lain down after an exhausting homework session. (helping verb: had)

 

Tip Chart:
Lay (moving an object) Present: Lay Past: laid Present Participle: laying Past Participle: laid
Lie (subject actually moving) Present: lie Past: lay Present Participle: lying Past Participle: lain

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This is a handy guide, Cia. Thank you. Heaven knows my sense of grammatical pedantry misses these things often enough! It's nice to have the rules clearly laid out.

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Both of those are my nemesis(es?) There's another one!

 

Seriously, though, this is really helpful. I like the he/him substitution for who/whom. I might actually figure that out someday.

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I'm going to have to bookmark this, because I have to look them up every time I encounter them either in my writing or when I'm editing.  I have them down pretty well, but always like to double-check.  :)

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Informative as always Cia.

 

The he/him is the trick I always use.

 

I hate lay/lie and try to never use them :lol:

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Cia, this is wonderful! You should do a grammar post every day! lol

 

Seriously though, I'm going to bookmark this; it's very informative. :)

 

Thanks, Cia! =)

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If people like this feature, I plan to continue to do more in short doses like this. It's easier to learn new things in small lessons, I think. Though not every day, lol, thanks for the vote of confidence, Lisa!

 

Does anyone have suggestions about what they'd like to see in upcoming Grammar Rodeo posts?

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Does anyone have suggestions about what they'd like to see in upcoming Grammar Rodeo posts?

 

The problem with this question is we can only ask you to write about mistakes we see other people do, not the ones we make. Because if we knew they were wrong we wouldn't make them.

 

did that even make sense... :unsure:

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Use of passive vs. active voice.  Comma use.  Appropriate use of em and en-dashes and ellipses.  Those are biggies I tend to run into when I edit. 

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The problem with this question is we can only ask you to write about mistakes we see other people do, not the ones we make. Because if we knew they were wrong we wouldn't make them.

 

did that even make sense... :unsure:

It does. It's really hard to see what you're doing wrong if you don't KNOW you're doing it wrong. But if you have a hard time remembering any particular rules or figuring out how to polish your work, I can address things like that.

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If people like this feature, I plan to continue to do more in short doses like this. It's easier to learn new things in small lessons, I think. Though not every day, lol, thanks for the vote of confidence, Lisa!

 

Does anyone have suggestions about what they'd like to see in upcoming Grammar Rodeo posts?

 

One that is currently driving me crazy is past/passed.  The story I'm currently reading has them both consistently used incorrectly. Most often they are used where the other should be, i.e. "He moved passed the doorway" and "He past me the phone." 

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Oh don't get me started on homophones, Efmaer. I cringe every time I see shutter instead of shudder. Or waste instead of waist, reign/rein, taught/taut... I've done a post on these in the past ;) but the difficulty with homophones is that the only way to know you're doing the wrong one is to know the words. Vocabulary is something a person either learns or they don't. I can't write much by way of tips to help figure out spelling and definitions.

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I personally don't get why homophones are so hard, especially since you can get a definition in about two seconds online. Also, mnemonics help.  Bare is something you don't want to be while wrestling a bear.

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How about a Grammar post on the difference between plural s (boys) and possessive s (boy's). And particularly the difficulty with plural possesive (boys' - is that correct?). Plus the one which I do wrong by choice: when a name ends on s, I find it so difficult to add 's - thus James' book, though it should be James's book, right?

The boy's instead of boys a mistake I see often as editor and reader, but I also find myself making it at times, and it always makes me wince when I see it at my second or third read of a text.

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wow... awsome... 

This helped a lot, especially the last one, what an annoying word :P

 

then how to know if to use . or , as punctuation after end dialog if you don't have ! or? - ?? have to say I didn't even know that you had to use any of them before today.

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wow... awsome... 

This helped a lot, especially the last one, what an annoying word :P

 

then how to know if to use . or , as punctuation after end dialog if you don't have ! or? - ?? have to say I didn't even know that you had to use any of them before today.

That's the difficulty in self-editing--when you don't know what you're doing wrong, you don't know how to fix it. There's a topic in the Writer's Corner pinned at the top that helped me finally learn dialogue punctuation, so you might check that out.

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