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Baby update - it's no longer an 'it' it's a 'she'


Andrew Q Gordon

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Yes I know it's been a bit since I last updated this - much of the good times, happy feelings were tested by the surrogate and her immaturity. I've come to the conclusion it is really just a 'it's not my money' kinda thing. She just sees us as having an endless stream of money and if she does something that causes us to have to pay more - it's no big deal.

 

So updates-

 

1) Still not insured - but she will be on June 1 - cost to insure - $260 a month with a $1500 deductible - for those of you outside the US, that means the first $1500 in medical bills comes out of our pocket. But if when she goes to the hospital or if she has a serious complication, it's covered - whew.

 

2) We are back to speaking terms with the surrogate. There are still issues but we'll figure it out.

 

3) It's a girl!!! The name isn't a secret but I'd prefer not to post it on line where it can be found by anyone - just a bit of caution is called for.

 

 

So for a few details -

 

The insurance debacle: As I said in the last post, she was getting paid in cash to avoid taxes and her lack of documented income caused her to be rejected. She of course blames the lawyer and I nearly bit my tongue in half to stop for telling her that it was really her illegal activity that created the problem. I let the agency deal with it.

 

Then she needed to get the forms in - she did it a day late and didn't qualify to be insured in May. THis was really an issue for me because we were telling her almost every day she HAD to submit the forms. She had one excuse after another. Finally I told her I was suspending all payments to her because her failure to do what was required to get insured constituted a breach of contract and we would not be reimbursing her for the costs - she got it in, but it was late :/

 

Because she was late, I ended up flying out to California this week to go with her to the doctor to arrange payment. She needs pre-natal and this was the only way I could insure she went. She does not have a credit card and they required payment at the time of service. I wanted to be certain she went and had no excuse for not going - i.e. she didn't have the money to pay them.

 

When to California - it is called the "Inland Empire." Those from California know what that is. To it looked like one great big sprawl. Lotsa flat surrounded by mountains. Somewhat cool to look at if you avoided the endless rows of houses and buildings. Nothing of note to do really. Then again it was only a day and half there with half of Wednesday taken up by the doctor appointment and spending time with the surrogate.

 

She is really quite nice in person. We get along well, so long as I ignore the fact she is needlessly costing us money. :/ But on June 1 that is over so it's behind us.

 

I feel a bit bad for here - but only a tiny bit. She quit her job - yeah the under the table one that caused us to NOT get insurance. Reason ? She was a customer service telephone support person. They asked her to may 5 hours a week of cold calls to businesses in their industry to drum up business. She - who has high school diploma didn't agree with this approach to the business and told her bosses that. She didn't want to be a telemarketer/phone sales person so she quit. Why work when Andy and Mike are sending her money every month.

 

Thus far she has - used the first two months to pay back her grandparents, take her dead beat dad to a car race, gone to a three day music festival, and saved $100 Next she plans to use the money to pay her rent, and 'save for a car' By the end of this she'll have no money and no job. But hopefully a car with which to get a job. Hopefully.

 

She was feeling us out about a second child already - no kidding right? She needs another $25K to do what she was planning to do with this money. Sigh. :mellow:

 

Maybe being out of, with a car and a few dollars in her pocket will help her start over - and maybe if we do a second - that is the hope/plan right now - she'll use the money to better herself.

 

So on to the part where everyone gets mad at me. I was kinda disappointed we are having a girl - I really was hoping for a son. Oh well, got over it and moved on but not before my mom bitched me out.

 

I get the whole - so long as it's happy and healthy and I should be happy etc, but we knew all that for the last 4 months. this was not - is she pregnant - is the baby doing well etc - [it is] this was the what sex is it. Now, unlike my mom who was bitchy - she wanted a granddaughter so i guess I rained on her parade, Mike - sage old man that he is - pointed out that, a) of all my nieces and nephews, my niece is the one I am hands down closest with and b ) I can do everything with a daughter I would do with a son. I suppose I knew that all along but he must have been ready for this because he sat me down, and got me over it.

 

B-[birth] minus 20 weeks and counting down. :)

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Not mad. I actually wished you a son on a comment on your status update instead of what Nephy wrote. Reason==> Men like the "mini-me" the same as was shown in Austin Powers. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's the truth. People that disagree are free to do so of course but I personally think women want daughters (and there's nothing wrong with that either).

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Kavrik, even many girls I've talked to admitted they'd prefer sons over daughters LOL. To be quite honest I rarely if ever have heard couples say they firmly would like a daughter over a son. YAY BOYS

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P.S. Really curious to know her name...

 

I hear that it's "Isabélla Maria Louisa Bonita de Surrogato y Miké con Santa Quoñus Consuella Washington Dé Cé para Andy la Lastname"

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@ Mike and YB - Actually my mom, his mom, Mike, my sister - basically everyone BUT me, wanted a girl. It's not that I didn't want a daughter, just that I wanted a son. Am already over that and when she is born she is gonna be a spoiled little child whose other daddy has fashion sense so she'll be fine - I have a shot and a scowl :P

 

@ Antya - um you know their names, and if you don't email me and I'll tell ya.

 

@YB - good lord, you're trying to kill my kid with a name like that? :blink: her head is going to explode trying to learn how to spell her name. LOL

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Okay so all the females wanted a daughter. And Mike, if I may be so presumptuous, is I suspect the "bottom" in your relationship? So that classifies him as taking on the "female" role in a M/M relationship so it makes sense he would want a daughter.

 

Of course if I'm wrong in that then I'm completely wrong. But you definitely don't strike me as a bottom Andy. Way too alpha male for that.

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Andy I don't think it's bad that you wanted a son. I mean, I have a definite preference, and have had it since way before I was married :P Of course, you know you'll love the kid no mater what :)

 

 

I've been in LA for 6 yrs and I've never been to the Inland Empire. Sounds like I'm not missing much.

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meh girls are girls and boys are boys... they both have their perks. At least this way you never have to put up with anyone saying to you, are you sure two gay men should be raising a boy? For some reason it's perfectly fine for gay men to raise girls.

 

I'm honestly glad all the parts are there. Thats really all that is important. Counting down with you.

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The one and only thing important thing is that the baby is healthy and will receive loving and stable family to grow up in.

 

You will be blessed to have her as she will be to have you guys as dads.

 

Congrats :hug:

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Babe, you can want a son all you like, and it's perfectly okay that you do btw, BUT you wait until you have that three year old on your knee kissing your cheek and calling you Daddy... and then the first day at school when she looks back at you with the shy smile and trembling lip... and when she starts high school and gets the lecture about boys... and when she brings the first boy home for you to brow beat... and when you take a photo of her at prom... and walk down the aisle with her on your arm...

 

You are going to be the proudest dad in the world and you are going to have a beautiful little girl who is going to grow into a beautiful young woman knowing she is loved and cherished and has the best dads in the world.

 

Mind you I would try to find a foster family for the years between 13 and 18 so you can have respite care on the days when a) she hates you or B) you are so pissed with her you want to hit a wall or c) she's suck an obnoxious little brat you are just SO embarassed to be seen in pulic with her. Better make that permanently then :) Look after your hair now :)

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I know that it took a LOT of emotional and financial hardship over these past months for you guys to get this far.

 

Andy. I'm betting that you and your heart partner are going to sit back in 20 or 40(?) years with grandkids on your laps and just---wonder--"What if we had given up?"

 

I am SO with you two on this energy that you guys are putting into this!

 

Hugs to you and Mike!

 

Dave

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@Kavrik:....Really?? LOL

 

Andy, that's awesome to find out your getting a baby girl! Sorry to hear about the surrogate problems, though this does make me curious about the screening process for surrogates....:Does research:

 

Again congrats for your upcoming summer baby! :)

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Okay so all the females wanted a daughter. And Mike, if I may be so presumptuous, is I suspect the "bottom" in your relationship? So that classifies him as taking on the "female" role in a M/M relationship so it makes sense he would want a daughter.

 

Of course if I'm wrong in that then I'm completely wrong. But you definitely don't strike me as a bottom Andy. Way too alpha male for that.

 

 

Mike you get your own 'special' reply. I am not divulging that - especially since this is not about my bedroom antic :P But nice try. :lol:

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@Sara - thanks - now if mom will understand that having a preference doesn't mean I don't or won't love her. She is still trying to convince me I am wrong. - Mom is rather opinionated :P As for the IE - no you are not missing much at all.

 

@Lugh - Honestly, that was always a fear of mine with a son - not just dipsticks saying that to us or behind our backs but for kids at school saying to a boy - 'you're dads' are fags so are you' or word to that effect. But seeing the ultrasound AND knowing it's a girl has made it feel that much more real. Woo Hoo, for once I can't wait for summer to end :P

 

@Maria I just feel bad that she is stuck with us as dads - mike is never planning to let her date LOL

 

@Nephy - LOL that is all I can say - my sister has volunteered to take the 'cute' years and return her when she is 13. I told her she had it backwards :P You just reaffirmed my position :)

 

@Dave - Giving up was actually a possibility when the surrogate was not getting pregnant and the cost went way up. But we are past that and we are set up for when we want - if we want - to have a sibling. But you're right, that sentiment - what if - 10, 20 years from now, forced us to dig down and make the sacrifice because we knew it would haunt us later. Thanks for your words - and the hug :)

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@Kavrik:....Really?? LOL

 

Andy, that's awesome to find out your getting a baby girl! Sorry to hear about the surrogate problems, though this does make me curious about the screening process for surrogates....:Does research:

 

Again congrats for your upcoming summer baby! :)

 

C - where you been?? Haven't 'talked' to you in ages? School kicked your butt this semester? Nice to see you back no matter.

 

There is only so much screening you can do - she passed a psychological exam, the screening processes, the personal interviews etc. Quitting her job to go work under the table was something I don't think they could screen out. Her 'it's everyone's fault but mine' attitude, that probably could have been caught with a better screening I guess. But all in all we are lucky - I've been hearing much worse stories about how things go with surrogates and intended parents so I am biting my tongue and being happy :)

 

Can't wait to show off the baby pictures - damn I'm "that" parent already LOL.

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Can't wait to show off the baby pictures - damn I'm "that" parent already LOL.

 

 

I can imagine high school and graduation pictures already

BTW, have you thought about what you'd like her to major in yet? Or where she should get her doctorate?

 

Oh wait, you're not Asian

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Ooh, name her Cadence! My niece has that name. It's such a rare, non-trendy name at all. I mean, have you ever run into little girls named Cadence?

 

 

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I can imagine high school and graduation pictures already

BTW, have you thought about what you'd like her to major in yet? Or where she should get her doctorate?

 

Oh wait, you're not Asian

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You crack me up. :)

 

I'm italian and he is English, Dutch, Scottish and Kryptonian or something. And he already picked out a few colleges, Swarthmore being at the top, and St. John's in Annapolis is another. **Rolls eyes and wonders where the money for either is coming from***

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Ooh, name her Cadence! My niece has that name. It's such a rare, non-trendy name at all. I mean, have you ever run into little girls named Cadence?

 

 

 

Mike's grandmother's name was Gertrude - don't see many of them either but I am not going to name her that :P

 

Not that I am equating Cadence with Gert or Gertrude, just pointing out that being unique is not always a good thing ^_^

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I'm italian

**Rolls eyes and wonders where the money for either is coming from***

 

Bake sales of course.

Those biscottis are delish.

 

 

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I KNEW IT!!!!!!!

 

I told you time and time again that she was going to be a girl!!! AND WHO DIDN'T BELIEVE ME!!!!

 

 

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now I'm going to read the blog now :P

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No one else has brought it up.... but I would really like to be a fly (or Bee) on the wall when you and Mike has to have the whole puberty talk with her :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

 

Maybe if you and Mike decide you want another kid, how about a different surrogate? This one sounds kinda bitchy

 

Good Luck :D

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I can NOT believe I missed this blog!! :hug: Congrats on a healthy baby. Just know, you're not alone on the gender thing. Having that tech say my 2nd was a boy was a shock (I'd always seen 2 girls for some reason, not one of each) and Josh was upset a bit too. He was a bit nostalgic for the little girl he always thought we were having too. He even pointed out a little white dress and said, awww we'll never have something cute like that in our house again. So I think all parents feel that way to some extent. My sister was shocked, sad, and upset when she had a boy after 3 ultrasounds said a girl. Things happen, but you learn who they are and love them just the same as you thought you did that ideal baby in your head once you have that baby in your arms.

 

I am glad that you got resolved what you needed to, sorry it's costing you more though. Sounds like you are entertaining the idea of a second down the line. I hope you get the chance if you want it. Also, don't pity an adult woman who makes bad choice after bad choice. There comes a time w hen she'll have to pay for the poor decisions she has made and it sounds like it will be after she has little baby *you won't tell us :(* girl. JK, I totally understand. You reap what you sow, as they say.

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Just wishing you and your partner the best of luck. I'm so happy for both of you.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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