Jump to content

Think Before You Type


You know when I’m writing a blog it usually means that we need to discuss a direction the site is headed in or recent issues on-site.

 

First off, let me start by saying the site’s administrators and moderators are all personally very supportive of freedom of speech. The stories contained in our archive, for example, still run afoul of the laws in many countries where gay and erotic literature is deemed obscene and pornographic. But even a commitment on our part to free speech must inevitably be balanced against certain constraints necessary to keep the site online and build an inclusive community where all are welcome.

 

I’m sure most are aware of how GA is funded, but I'll review for those that are not. When Myr first started the site, he covered the costs out of his own pocket. Needless to say that was a long, long time ago. And as the site grew over the last fifteen years, and boy did it ever, GA had more and more costs. Those costs became unmanageable for one, or even five or six people to shoulder themselves. Thoughts were bounced around to do pledge drives, much like a certain Wiki organization regularly does. Luckily, in the end we were able to weigh the advantages, and the cash, that Google AdSense can provide to the site. This allowed us to continue to remain completely free by including advertising on the site rather than having pledge drives to pay the expenses. Eventually costs soared and we had to re-evaluate our funding choices again, and that’s when we came up with the Premium membership option. This still makes 98% of the site free to all members. In our opinion, this was a win-win scenario as the site remained online with the combined funding and our Premium members get to read stories that would otherwise not be available on-site.

 

As I mentioned earlier, there are constraints imposed upon the site by participating in the Google AdSense program.  Google often changes their policies and decides what content, or speech if you like, is allowed to exist on sites that carry their advertisements.  We must therefore make certain trade-offs at times and implement new policies to protect the site’s primary revenue stream so that we remain in Google’s good graces and also do what’s right for our community.

 

We had a discussion going on in a topic recently which involved some words that included, and this is my summary, racial slurs and vulgar terms. I don’t think I need to spell them out or obfuscate the words by replacing the letters with ***s. Think of words that you probably hear in everyday speech or maybe in movies. Words that most wouldn’t use in polite company. These words now have a filter on them that will not allow the post to be public unless it is approved by one of our moderators. So if you are typing up a post, and it doesn’t immediately appear, it might be because of the language within the post. I must thank the people who were involved in that topic for working with us to get their posts edited in a way that meets these standards.

 

Personally, myself, I have issues with racial slurs or racially hateful names/labels, and bigoted and sexist language. I also realize that others don’t see this speech as an issue and get upset at the idea of not being able to freely use it.  I know here at GA, we strive to be an inclusive community where our guests and members feel welcome, and some of our site’s visitors include minority groups that might feel targeted by this language. Why would we want to be a place that openly welcomes and supports members of any sexual orientation or gender expression, but in turn have racially hateful language making them feel like a minority within a minority? One member shared with me his own experience that there are some major ethnic groups that feel like ‘gay groups’ can be as alienating, if not more so, by their language and derogatory slang used to refer to them. Is this really what we want for GA? I do realize that maybe certain words are used in your circle of friends, or maybe within your family or your area of the globe, but that doesn’t justify their use on this site. If we had someone join and find a fair bit of language that they find hateful, what does that say about us as a community? Do you want them to feel unwelcome?

 

There are a few ways that we are allowing certain language which might be considered ‘real language’ by some to remain visible. In Stories, if you want to keep your characters real and you feel the only way to do that is to use language that you won’t find on Network TV, then you can do so—as long as the story is rated Mature. The Pit is also an area not open to Google AdSense so, if needed, these words will be permitted there as long as they are not being directed at others. Other than that though, we will be enforcing automatic filters going forward and not allowing certain words that I’m sure you all know to be used on our Forums. And, as always, if you are making a personal attack on someone using any language, this will be treated as a personal attack first and foremost. 

 

The next category to discuss is vulgar words. Without using the actual words or *** again, I will specify the slang use of a female’s vagina will not be allowed on-site except for the same guidelines as the racially-charged words above. I really don’t see how a conversation is made better by using this word. Once again, I realize this is only me, but in general it is not used in polite company.

 

So what exactly does this mean going forward? If a restricted word is used in a post on-site, your post will not be seen and the moderation team by alerted to your post with the following warning: 

 

image.png

 

The Site Moderation Team will contact you and review that the post made contains a word that is not acceptable on our Forums and give you a copy of the post so you can modify and re-post it should you choose.

 

If the post appears in the Pit it will be approved as long as it isn’t being used as a personal attack on someone.

 

It will be up to you to determine if you will be posting again. I’m sure you can be creative enough without trying to get around the filters to get your point across. Unfortunately, if your creativity is just hiding the word with other symbols like ***, spelling or similar words that will sound out the word, they will be blocked too.

 

There will be no warnings or punishment if you get a message of this nature for a post unless staff are forced to moderate a member’s posts repeatedly when it is clear they have been made aware of these rules. Remember, though, that Rules Lawyering is not allowed under the site rules already. Please understand that we are doing this entirely to protect not only our members who may be alienated by this language, but to protect the revenue that keeps the site online.
 
Is it really worth losing the nearly 124,000,000 words entirely over the use of a few words?

 

I encourage you to use this blog to discuss the issue now, instead of having to rehash it later. Can we just do it without the use of certain words?

  • Like 13
  • Love 5

20 Comments


Recommended Comments

Puppilull

Posted

1 hour ago, Cia said:

Using **** is against the rules (and always has been, that's not a new change). Fracking isn't a swear word unless you're a scifi geek :P

 

Ok, I had no idea. I have used those stars in status updates and such. 

 

Fracking was close to the other word and I wondered if that was what was meant by changing spelling. 

  • Like 5
JayT

Posted

1 minute ago, Puppilull said:

 

Ok, I had no idea. I have used those stars in status updates and such. 

 

Fracking was close to the other word and I wondered if that was what was meant by changing spelling. 

I think they mean spelling s h 1 t and stuff like that

  • Like 3
  • Love 1
Brayon

Posted (edited)

So, just to be clear:

 

All areas of GA, outside of Stories and Private Clubs, is to be rated PG-13. (Using American Movie Ratings.)

Don't use Symbols for words.

Spicy Language is allowed in Stories, as long as it's rated Mature, and then it's Reader Caveat Emptor*.

 

2 hours ago, Cia said:

Fracking isn't a swear word unless you're a scifi geek :P

Good... No one is taking my Fracking away.... Especially seeing as it's the name of the process used to crack rocks in oil and natural gas drilling.

 

Overall, I agree with the policy and hope this helps GA flourish.

 

 

EDIT: *According to the Wiki, it should be Caveat Lector. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor#Caveat_lector

Edited by BHopper2
  • Like 5
JayT

Posted

3 minutes ago, BHopper2 said:

So, just to be clear:

 

All areas of GA, outside of Stories and Private Clubs, is to be rated PG-13. (Using American Movie Ratings.)

Don't use Symbols for words.

Spicy Language is allowed in Stories, as long as it's rated Mature, and then it's Reader Caveat Emptor.

 

Good... No one is taking my Fracking away.... Especially seeing as it's the name of the process used to crack rocks in oil and natural gas drilling.

 

Overall, I agree with the policy and hope this helps GA flourish.

 

It's also the practice of sidewise drilling when the oil and gas companies already have a drill set up but discover it's not in the correct spot and need drill 100+ feet to the right or left and use high pressure water to displace the earth between where the drill is and the pocket is so that they don't have to pay mineral rights to different people and pay to relocate the drill

  • Like 4
JayT

Posted

Just now, Puppilull said:

Being clear is good. Especially since some of us in Sweden (and other places) probably have a different tolerance level and opinion.  We've watched too many Samuel L Jackson movies to consider certain words sensitive... 

In Samuel L Jackson's first "What's in your wallet" commercial he actually said What's in your goddamn wallet

  • Like 1
  • Wow 2
FormerMember4

Posted (edited)

No problem following this. I don’t know what post you referred, nor does it matter. Racism or slurs is not welcome anywhere in my book. I don’t care the context.

Edited by BlindAmbition
  • Like 4
Wesley8890

Posted

I'd like to apologize for breaking these rules and admittedly I have pushed the limits on occasion. I know I'll be careful from now on. If I offended people I am sorry

  • Like 5
Brayon

Posted

1 minute ago, Puppilull said:

 

I sat on my hands not to write something... :gikkle:

Yeah, I spotted it after I posted. LOL. 

Essentially the same thing.

  • Like 1
Headstall

Posted

Excellent! Thank you! The only thing I have some uncertainty over is the use of the four letter word in a story. Does using it mean the story must be rated mature? I'm thinking it doesn't, but I want to be positive. In reading your post, Steve, is it the racial slurs and the truly vulgar you are talking about? I'm fine with either way. 

  • Like 3
JayT

Posted

3 minutes ago, Headstall said:

Excellent! Thank you! The only thing I have some uncertainty over is the use of the four letter word in a story. Does using it mean the story must be rated mature? I'm thinking it doesn't, but I want to be positive. In reading your post, Steve, is it the racial slurs and the truly vulgar you are talking about? I'm fine with either way. 

I think if the words are few and far between it could be rated teen....now if every 5th sentence has an f bomb in it, it should probably be mature

  • Like 3
JayT

Posted

6 minutes ago, Headstall said:

Excellent! Thank you! The only thing I have some uncertainty over is the use of the four letter word in a story. Does using it mean the story must be rated mature? I'm thinking it doesn't, but I want to be positive. In reading your post, Steve, is it the racial slurs and the truly vulgar you are talking about? I'm fine with either way. 

Think of like the difference between watching an Andrew Dice Clay movie vs watching The Birdcage.....one is definitely rated R and one is PG-13

  • Like 3
JamesSavik

Posted

As literate, creative people we should be able to say **** in all sorts of ways.

 

Romance and drama would be pretty boring if there was only one word for ****.

 

Granted, **** is a multi-function, multipurpose Swiss Army Knife of words. It can, depending on usage, be a noun, verb, adjective and even an adverb. The problem with **** is that it gets overused and loses its  potency. There is definitely a time and a place for ****. We shouldn't dilute it or wear it out with overuse.

 

Words like **** are supposed to have sharp edges. It's supposed to make you blink, raise and eyebrow or wrinkle your nose. The reason it doesn't anymore is that it has been overused to the point where it's shape edges are dulled. It is a word that is actually improved by its rarity. Seeing **** in a sentence should elicit a reaction other than -meh- or you are using it wrong.

 

If you are really good at it, you can say **** and no one will even notice at all.

 

The craft isn't about the power of ****, it's about the power of the other words and ideas in that sentence.

 

  • Like 1
  • Love 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...