[dkstories] Dawn of Tears

[Tim the Traveller]

Legal or not, surely Dan is getting water logged by now?

 

Actually, I absolutely fully expected a chapter of DOR or VJ2 to appear today. The reason is simple: It's the one day I couldn't possibly read it! (I just had an eye exam, and can barely see thanks to the drops).

 

Speaking of DOT, though... I am embarrassed to admit that I thought it was Mists of Fate, which I have read. So, what does this mean? It means I have an as-yet unread dkstories story waiting for me.

 

hmmm.....I think if hes water logged, Trebs must be in there with him then

 

you checked about 12 hours early, so hopefully your eyes have recovered sufficiently to be abused some more.

 

 

And how lucky are you?!?!?! I wish I had an unread story to go still. But I still have just under half of DoT, So I'm good through about another week. Then I get to start on Dom's new one, since I'll need a Dom fix by then for sure.

[C James]

 

Legal or not, surely Dan is getting water logged by now?

 

Actually, I absolutely fully expected a chapter of DOR or VJ2 to appear today. The reason is simple: It's the one day I couldn't possibly read it! (I just had an eye exam, and can barely see thanks to the drops).

 

Speaking of DOT, though... I am embarrassed to admit that I thought it was Mists of Fate, which I have read. So, what does this mean? It means I have an as-yet unread dkstories story waiting for me.

hmmm.....I think if hes water logged, Trebs must be in there with him then

 

you checked about 12 hours early, so hopefully your eyes have recovered sufficiently to be abused some more.

And how lucky are you?!?!?! I wish I had an unread story to go still. But I still have just under half of DoT, So I'm good through about another week. Then I get to start on Dom's new one, since I'll need a Dom fix by then for sure.

Yep, Dan missed his opportunity to confound me, as I very much enjoyed the chapter!

 

Hmmm... I hope I don't get lynched for admitting this, but Dawn of Tears isn't the only DK story I haven't read yet. I've always absolutely hated any sort of "celebrity" story, and I've never liked Harry potter books (I tried reading one, once.). So, I haven't read Dan't Hairy Potter or Phone call stories. I doubt even dkstories could make me like either genra, but I recall saying that about Vampires, too, and being flat-out wrong. So, I'm going to give them a try soon.

 

I guess my new rule is: If Dan wrote it, I'll read it.

[C James]

I've just finished reading the posted chapters of Dawn of Tears, and had to make some comments.

 

I enjoyed it greatly, especially the fact that it is truly thought provoking on many levels. I won't go into details (read it yourself if you haven't already: you won't be sorry!) but talk about breaking stereotypes! The shattered wreckage of a great many resides within these chapters.

 

The main characters are very complex, with very interesting aspects to their personalities, not the least of which is a very interesting set of internal values. Some readers might find some aspects of these values to be contrary to their own, though I must say they match my own philosophies rather well. It has been said that a society has the values that it can afford, so it would hardly be realistic to expect massive societal changes to not impact individual moral values.

 

The only negative thing that I can think of to say is that I don't know how well this story would do posted chapter by chapter, in the beginning. It took me a few chapters before I was truly hooked, and I'm not sure I would have been hooked by reading just chapter one. However, that's quite possibly due more to my own reading preferences than anything else.

 

DO and DOR have long been among my favorite stories, but, I'm now thinking that DOT has surpassed them for me.

 

I sincerely hope that Dan returns to this story at some point in the future.

[dkstories]

I'm glad you've enjoyed i so far...just as an FYI, Dawn of Tears is about twice as popular as the Do Over series, based on the number of views in the archive

[C James]

I'm glad you've enjoyed i so far...just as an FYI, Dawn of Tears is about twice as popular as the Do Over series, based on the number of views in the archive

Had I heard that before I'd read it, I'd have found it hard to believe (I'm a huge fan of DO&DOR). However, now that I've read it, I think I like it even more than DO&DOR.

 

I found the religious aspects VERY thought provoking, as it's certainly not portrayed in a stereotypical light for a gay fiction story!!

 

I think one of the things I like most about your stories is how nothing is two dimensional, but instead is complex and multi-faceted. Just like real life.

[mcgolden]

Oh Gods,

Another great story, that I must wait to see a new chapter. Well I am used to it by now.

 

Mark

[knotme]

LOL!

I still haven't started DoT. I hate being caught waiting on a story.

 

**runs from the rotten tomotoes for causing people to wait for me **

I've a new appreciation for the dribbling serial: I may waste a little time checking for updates, but that's better than blowing everything off an entire day when I got hooked on DoT. I finally managed to stop myself at Chapter 22. No self control! I have to leave ice cream in the store. Similarly, when a good story is tempting and my duties are unappealing, I guess I need the author to stop me. To a point, anticipation enriches the story. DoT has left that point in the dust. I hope my self-control holds at Chapter 22. I'll resume when Dan does.

[old bob]

Hey everybody !

As a newbie, I just "discovered" yesterday the first chapters of DoT and found again another amazing story. The way Dan write it brings you deep in his world and you can't stop the reading any more!!

 

I wonder how precise and "live" Dan can describe the daily life and the psychology of military people.

I was myself a long time on duty in Air Force and Humint up to the rank of captain. I hope it is not a secret, Dan have you anything to do with the US army, the National Guard or even the Navy? Or how did you learn so much about the thinking and behaviour of professional soldiers (I made the same observation about the military descriptions in DO and DOR). If yes, Hey comrade !!

:2hands: :ranger:

[dkstories]

US Navy from 1989-1992

[old bob]

US Navy from 1989-1992

Oh ! The gunner Davey in his first lifetime, in his small boat in the Gulf in 1991.... Was it your experience ?

If yes, I understand why you write so well and so clear (by reading, I could imagine myself on the bridge....

[dkstories]

I was a Gunner's Mate...but not assigned to small boat units...rather to a nuclear-powered cruiser featured in the original Do Over.

[old bob]

I was a Gunner's Mate...but not assigned to small boat units...rather to a nuclear-powered cruiser featured in the original Do Over.

Nice to meet you

expecting with delight ALL the following chapters of your stories

Old Bob

[old bob]

Nice to meet you

expecting with delight ALL the following chapters of your stories

Old Bob

Hey Dan ....

I took time to read all your blogs from the beginning (2004) . You are a great author ! I found it even more interesting as your stories, more humour and understatement .....Please go on, at your time and your rythm.

That's real life.

Just another technical question : in DoT, I cannt open chapter 28, chapter 27 comes twice instead, the same with chapter 30. I tried with different browsers (Netscape, Firefox, even Explorer) without success. Can you help me ?

[Trebs]

Hey Dan ....

I took time to read all your blogs from the beginning (2004) . You are a great author ! I found it even more interesting as your stories, more humour and understatement .....Please go on, at your time and your rythm.

That's real life.

Just another technical question : in DoT, I cannt open chapter 28, chapter 27 comes twice instead, the same with chapter 30. I tried with different browsers (Netscape, Firefox, even Explorer) without success. Can you help me ?

Actually, ignore the prefaces to the chapters and you'll see 28 (after the italicized intro) is a different chapter than 27... And 30 says it is 29 at the top, but the chapter itself is different.

 

I know Dan has plans to clean up a lot of things like this - as well as continue the story. But he's been focusing on Do It Right and Service, as well as an overwhelming workload recently (plus - he has a really needy partner that whines a lot).

[old bob]

Actually, ignore the prefaces to the chapters and you'll see 28 (after the italicized intro) is a different chapter than 27... And 30 says it is 29 at the top, but the chapter itself is different.

 

I know Dan has plans to clean up a lot of things like this - as well as continue the story. But he's been focusing on Do It Right and Service, as well as an overwhelming workload recently (plus - he has a really needy partner that whines a lot).

Hey Trebs...

THX for the tip.

Dont whine ! Take your time both....I can wait

[dkstories]

Ya know, I think I should delegate Trebs to get all those things cleaned up

[C James]

Ya know, I think I should delegate Trebs to get all those things cleaned up

Nah, do it democratically, and elect him while he's out of the room....

 

Hmmmm, would posting "phone call" be one of his duties? I've heard good things about that, and am looking forward to reading it.

[EMoe57]

...would posting "phone call" be one of his duties?

Did I ever return the edited chapters to you? Did I even finish them? :wacko:

[C James]

 

Hmmmm, would posting "phone call" be one of his duties?

Did I ever return the edited chapters to you? Did I even finish them? :wacko:

 

Ahhh! Well, no, Emoe, you never did return the chapters to me... So why don't you rectify the situation and e-mail them to me right away?

 

(I know, I know, but it was worth a try! )

[EMoe57]

Well, no, Emoe, you never did return the chapters to me... So why don't you rectify the situation and e-mail them to me right away?

What, you want to edit them for DK? You tryin' to take my job? Then I'll have to get my DK fix just like everybody else! J/K!

[C James]

What, you want to edit them for DK? You tryin' to take my job? Then I'll have to get my DK fix just like everybody else! J/K!

EEEK! No, I don't think DK (or the readers) would want me editing them!! I can see the lynch mob forming up to get me already!!!

 

Besides, I've heard how unspeakably cruel DK is to you.. All that screaming emanating from Jacksonville when he sends out a new chapter, etc..

[Demetz]

I paced myself a little better, taking three days and getting sleep in between instead of just going for days doing nothing but reading, alas I am now as hooked to Dawn of Tears as I ever was with the Do Over saga, and will be quivering with anticipation of the next chapters. Loved the story, but... I just don't see the Muslim world ever managing to unite behind a Shiite leader. Many Sunnis and Shiites don't even recognize each other as being Muslim, as I've seen play out as they traded insults in the small online community I was once a part of, and the world has seen as they've traded bombs upon each other's mosques. Maybe future chapters could better explain how Khulari gained the control he did over the Sunni states....

[dkstories]

Actually, hate to say it, but that won't be something explored in the future chapters. Suffice it to say...did he really gain control or did they gain some control as well?

[Demetz]

Fair enough, I guess. I was a bit surprised that Khulari ended up bonded. I didn't get the sense from him that he would be... interested... in the process that is required for that. Kind of a bit disappointed too, he seemed like a perfect person to be set up as an enemy without having to resort to the cartoonish type of rivalry where one side is simply maniacally evil. Come to think of it, a long-term personal rival is about the only thing I see missing from the story... but then again, we've seen Henry come in and out of the story and we know he's got a brotherly relationship to Dylan... I keep waiting for the two to start a counterrevolution against whatever it is Dad Jacobs is planning and end up on opposite sides. I'm a little sad things didn't work with Jeremy and Dylan... and while I don't know what you've got planned for them I would have liked to see Jeremy take a strong supportive role with Dylan, but not get directly involved, but with him going out bonding Khulari it doesn't seem like that's what you have planned for him. You've built a heck of a web of possibilities I'll probably be thinking over for months on end.... :wacko:

[C James]

I paced myself a little better, taking three days and getting sleep in between instead of just going for days doing nothing but reading, alas I am now as hooked to Dawn of Tears as I ever was with the Do Over saga, and will be quivering with anticipation of the next chapters. Loved the story, but... I just don't see the Muslim world ever managing to unite behind a Shiite leader. Many Sunnis and Shiites don't even recognize each other as being Muslim, as I've seen play out as they traded insults in the small online community I was once a part of, and the world has seen as they've traded bombs upon each other's mosques. Maybe future chapters could better explain how Khulari gained the control he did over the Sunni states....

It's been a while since I've read DOT, so I'll have to go back and check.

 

However, you raise an interesting issue! Sunni and Shia certainly do in many cases have issues with one another. It's not a good analogy, but the best I can come up with is Protestant and Catholic in situations such as Northern Ireland.

 

The religious issue was a huge part of why the Gulf states backed Saddam in the Iran-Iraq war. They feared Iranian hegemony even more than Iraqi hegemony. There are only two nations with a Shia majority, Iran and Iraq, but Saddam's ruling party (B'aath) was Sunni.

 

However, there have indeed been instances of co-operation between Iran and Sunni extremists. Look for example at the level of co-operation between Al Qaeda and Hezbollah. (The former is Sunni, the latter Shiite, and run by Iran).

 

I don't see a new Caliphate forming any time soon, but there are occasionally degrees of cooperation between Shiite and Sunni, though IMHO, as you say, animosity is far more common.