Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 10, 2012 Author Posted March 10, 2012 That is true, he wouldn't do that. Which reminds me, I need to ask him how the review of the last three chapters is going. Don't want to miss next week's posting.
Bleu Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 I can confirm that John has finished reviewing Purpose. Obviously he didn't tell me anything about the plot . He is just a little sad that such a great story is coming to an end. *sigh* 1
Daddydavek Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 While I anxiously await to see if both Will and Ryan survive the maelstrom created by the lead footed FBI agent, I too will be sad to see this story come to a conclusion. 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 I can confirm that John has finished reviewing Purpose. Obviously he didn't tell me anything about the plot . He is just a little sad that such a great story is coming to an end. *sigh* While I anxiously await to see if both Will and Ryan survive the maelstrom created by the lead footed FBI agent, I too will be sad to see this story come to a conclusion. I Have mixed feelings about this ending. On the one hand, it's nice to actually finish something. Before Second Shot, I never finished one before - so this will make three if you count the Trial of Jordan Colmar. Then there is freed up time to work on new stuff. But then it's over and there are times when I go back and look at Second Shot almost as if I can 'relive' it - which is kinda like saying I miss it. So I get that this one ending makes be a bit nostagic. Oh well time marches on. Thanks to you both and to Jian especially for the help. Andy
TrevorTime Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Purpose will be the last story I post on GA for some time. Sadly, I don't have the time to write like I used to so let me say it's been fun and I hope to come back with something sooner than later. Does this mean that I have to read Second Shot over and over? Wait, I've already done that. But then it's over and there are times when I go back and look at Second Shot almost as if I can 'relive' it - which is kinda like saying I miss it. So I get that this one ending makes me a bit nostalgic. Oh well time marches on. Reliving Second Shot is what got me into trouble in the first place. I really need to find a new angsty story to latch on to.
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Does this mean that I have to read Second Shot over and over? Wait, I've already done that. Reliving Second Shot is what got me into trouble in the first place. I really need to find a new angsty story to latch on to. I'll try to write you one soon.
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 16, 2012 Author Posted March 16, 2012 Purpose Chapter 30 is alive and well and it's also posted. As mentioned before, Chapter 30 is basically the last chapter. There is a brief final journal entry and a short epilogue to tie up - or make worse - the loose ends. For those who don't want to read a spoiler, don't click on the spoiler until after you've read the chapter. I'd be interested to see what people think - is he or isn't he? I know a couple people - those who helped me edit and beta - have expressed their opinions, so I wonder if this ending will generate a few responses. Yeah not much of a spoiler, but still.
Daddydavek Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 Purpose Chapter 30 is alive and well and it's also posted. As mentioned before, Chapter 30 is basically the last chapter. There is a brief final journal entry and a short epilogue to tie up - or make worse - the loose ends. For those who don't want to read a spoiler, don't click on the spoiler until after you've read the chapter. I'd be interested to see what people think - is he or isn't he? I know a couple people - those who helped me edit and beta - have expressed their opinions, so I wonder if this ending will generate a few responses. Yeah not much of a spoiler, but still. So, now the funeral was all an elaborate charade???? 1
MJ85 Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 I suddenly remembered something that happened in one of my favorite shows a couple hours after reading this chapter. If in fact Ryan is not dead, that set-up would be very similar to something that happened in Day 4 of the show, 24. The event that I'm referring to is, the assassin Mandy had captured a CTU agent, Tony. At one point she staged it so that it looked like she was leading him to an escape car, only to act like she saw a rescue team at the scene, thus she apparently blew up the car, taking herself and Tony with it. But Jack wasn't convinced that what happened was genuine - and eventually figured out that it wasn't her and Tony in the car when it blew up. Tony would go on to be rescued. What happened in chapter 30 wouldn't be the same thing. Instead of the lead character trying to disprove the death ruse, here Will would be creating it. Still, it reminded me of that prior event. Andy...if that is in fact what you did here...then I have to say, it's brilliant. It's evil to do to your readers ...but it's brilliant. HOWEVER...If. In. Fact. That's not the case, and Ryan is dead...then that will have completely undermined the 29 chapters that came before. 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 16, 2012 Author Posted March 16, 2012 So, now the funeral was all an elaborate charade???? Dave, do you really expect me to answer that before I post the last two chapters? Nope, not telling right now. Gonna need to wait a week to ask me that.
Frostina Posted March 16, 2012 Posted March 16, 2012 There is NO way i am believing Ryan is dead! funeral or not! i'm thinking.... No autopsy... no viewing of the body... you left plenty of loopholes there Q-Man ( which i have NO doubt you did intentionally) and i intend to take those into more seriousness than the bronze coffin that was lowered into the ground (presumably full) ps: anybody else agree with me? 1
Bleu Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 There is NO way i am believing Ryan is dead! funeral or not! i'm thinking.... No autopsy... no viewing of the body... you left plenty of loopholes there Q-Man ( which i have NO doubt you did intentionally) and i intend to take those into more seriousness than the bronze coffin that was lowered into the ground (presumably full) ps: anybody else agree with me? I agree, I agree! For once I saw the holes, so I'd better be rewarded Either that or I am delusional, which could be true. 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 I agree, I agree! For once I saw the holes, so I'd better be rewarded Either that or I am delusional, which could be true. There is NO way i am believing Ryan is dead! funeral or not! i'm thinking.... No autopsy... no viewing of the body... you left plenty of loopholes there Q-Man ( which i have NO doubt you did intentionally) and i intend to take those into more seriousness than the bronze coffin that was lowered into the ground (presumably full) ps: anybody else agree with me? It's kinda hard for me to comment just yet, let me get the last two chapters posted and then I can tell you what I think. For now, I'll keep my yap shut.
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 22, 2012 Author Posted March 22, 2012 Last chapter of Purpose has been posted. Yes I know it is very short, but it is summed up the end as I saw the story. There is an equally brief epilogue coming Sunday to close up two loose ends that I see still are open - there might be a lot more, but these are the only two I'm tying up. So with that, so endth the story. Thanks to everyone who read and especially to those who commented. Andy
MJ85 Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 So...wait, does this mean that Will was really a "personality" like Gar was all along? And why leave Gar behind? Unless...unless Gar represents the part of him that didn't know the full scope of what was going on... 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 22, 2012 Author Posted March 22, 2012 So...wait, does this mean that Will was really a "personality" like Gar was all along? And why leave Gar behind? Unless...unless Gar represents the part of him that didn't know the full scope of what was going on... Interesting idea that Will i.e. William Morgan III was just a personality, but no, he was real. It mean he is going to start over with a new name and new life and William Morgan is n't going to be part of that. As for Gar, well, why leave it behind? He used that persona to hide from himself. Will never would have accepted killing thousands of people. He'd have gone mad. But after what happened with Ryan, he decided that he couldn't hide behind a made up persona. He needed to accept what he was and what that meant and to deal with it without hiding. Gar was good at being unemotional, detached, business like. He also made Will forget his feelings for David and when Will realized that he realized he gave up too much 'just to cope' So time to start fresh, no more hiding, no more pretending, no more avoiding reality.
Daddydavek Posted March 22, 2012 Posted March 22, 2012 In my review of chapter 31 I highlighted what I perceive as the ultimate insight Gar/Will experienced from his long life of possession. "But I can't pretend I'm still the same person IT found forty years ago. Will, Gar, Ryan, they're all gone. Time for something new, someone new. Thanks to Ryan, I understand better what I am and what I need to do. All future hosts will know. Ryan's legacy to the future." Purpose is story about a moribund shell of a person possessed by an alien entity with a ghoulish need to feed, clothed in revenge with a veneer of justice. That person is shaken from his shell by another and in his attempt to renew his own life loses the one he cared for, in part due to his own shortcomings. Fortunately, the loss of Ryan was not in vain and it appears the possessed Will has found his own internal purpose in life and will move on; albeit still possessed by the alien IT. Interestingly complex story. While I await the epilogue, the story feels complete. 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 22, 2012 Author Posted March 22, 2012 Dave, That review sums up a lot about the story very well. Thank yo. Will's shortcomings certainly contributed to what happened, but he also managed to show Ryan what it mean to be loved as well. I always saw it that they saved each other thanks - unwittingly - to the two Purposes. The story IS complete. The epilogue is just to show the beginning of 'Will's' new life.
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 Purpose is now complete - thanks to everyone who read and commented, you were a motivation to keep going and see this to the end. Purpose: Epilogue I left the ending as I did to generate a debate - who is Will talking to at the end? You tell me. I know who I think it is, but I'm curious to see what everyone else thinks. Maybe after a time, I'll let folks know my thoughts, but I want to know what others think before I do that. Comment away, ask questions, but I won't give you a straight answer to who the passenger is, at least not for a time. Andy
Daddydavek Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 My question isn't whom he rode off with, but am I correct in assuming the other IT was along? 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 My question isn't whom he rode off with, but am I correct in assuming the other IT was along? You are correct. Both entities are together. So both Will and his passenger are hosts.
MJ85 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 What about this? What about... In his journal entry, Will/Gar/whomever he is now talks about leaving BOTH Will and Gar behind for good. What if...what if the same thing happened with the other IT? What if, "Ryan" the personality is now gone, but in his place is a new personality in the same body? 1
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 What about this? What about... In his journal entry, Will/Gar/whomever he is now talks about leaving BOTH Will and Gar behind for good. What if...what if the same thing happened with the other IT? What if, "Ryan" the personality is now gone, but in his place is a new personality in the same body? That is of course one possibility. I mean Will is resourceful enough to pull that off I think.
K.C. Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Okay, my guess is that the passenger is Jake and that he has inherited Ryan's Purpose. I don't like the idea of it being Ryan's physical body with a new personality or a new identity. The personality and soul is what makes us who we are and to still have the carcass with another IT or personality is just ewww to me. BUT it would be nice if the Purpose in Jake retains some of Ryan's memories and feeling.
Andrew Q Gordon Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) KC Let me say that IF - and I'm not saying it is or isn't - it's Jake, he retains all of Ryan's memories but not his personality. Also if it were Ryan, it would be him, not a new body etc, just an new alias. I will say I think I left enough clues as to who it is - people just need to go back and read the last five chapters carefully to find em Edited March 26, 2012 by Quonus10
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