Now we know what to do if the muse is fickle

[Former Member]

There are two sides to mine.  One is female, the other is male.  I could write a short story about them.  My male muse is...less active.

[Aditus]

My muse is most definitely male. *glares* because he is not cooperating today although we have the day off.

[Thorn Wilde]

My muse is genderqueer, and has just started to function again!

[Sasha Distan]

My muse is genderqueer, and has just started to function again!

 

can we tempt him/her to continue to be active with snacks and cider?

[Thorn Wilde]

can we tempt him/her to continue to be active with snacks and cider?

 

S/he is being quite active enough just now, but snacks and cider may be necessary in the near future. Thankfully, my mate Robin is coming to visit from England on Saturday, and he's promised to bring Quavers.

 

(Hate that there's no gender-neutral pronoun in English... they have one in Swedish, it's awesome.)

[Former Member]

S/he is being quite active enough just now, but snacks and cider may be necessary in the near future. Thankfully, my mate Robin is coming to visit from England on Saturday, and he's promised to bring Quavers.

 

(Hate that there's no gender-neutral pronoun in English... they have one in Swedish, it's awesome.)

 

There's one in German too.  Das~

[Aditus]

I know this sounds wrong for so many reasons but the proper pronoun would be 'it' - gender-neuter lol. Of course we wouldn't use it, because an 'it' isn't normally a person , not even a mythical.

 

Das~ is a relative pronoun. In Thorn's sentence it would be 'es~'. In the German language we use 'es' (it), if the noun is gender-neuter or we don't know the gender, for example child (Kind). The problem is we have gender-specific articles, which means even 'things' like 'table' have a gender. If I would say 'der Muse or mein Muse', because my muse is male it would sound horrible wrong in German, a muse has to be female. In English it is 'the muse', much more simple.

 

I'm not quite awake, so if this sounded gibberish, tell me and I try again later.

Edited July 5, 2013 by aditus

[crazyfish]

 I don't understand the concept of a muse.  Anyway, I have no muse.  

[Thorn Wilde]

I know this sounds wrong for so many reasons but the proper pronoun would be 'it' - gender-neuter lol. Of course we wouldn't use it, because an 'it' isn't normally a person , not even a mythical.

 

Das~ is a relative pronoun. In Thorn's sentence it would be 'es~'. In the German language we use 'es' (it), if the noun is gender-neuter or we don't know the gender, for example child (Kind). The problem is we have gender-specific articles, which means even 'things' like 'table' have a gender. If I would say 'der Muse or mein Muse', because my muse is male it would sound horrible wrong in German, a muse has to be female. In English it is 'the muse', much more simple.

 

I'm not quite awake, so if this sounded gibberish, tell me and I try again later.

 

No, it made sense. Well, it did to me.

 

I should have specified. In Swedish they have a gender-neutral PERSONAL pronoun, which I really like.

[Kitt]

Well tell us what this gender non-specific personal pronoun is!   Perhaps we could start a trend, since we have people chatting here worldwide!

[Aditus]

Now that I'm awake I remember that some use 'they' when they want to use a gender-neutral personal pronoun as a subject pronoun, whether that is right or wrong I don't know. Kitt?

 

Well tell us what this gender non-specific personal pronoun is!   Perhaps we could start a trend, since we have people chatting here worldwide!

[Thorn Wilde]

'They' is fairly accepted, but as it's adapted from a plural it feels very impersonal. It works when you don't know what gender a person is, but it's not a very good alternative to the genderqueer. 

 

The Swedish word is 'hen', taken from the Finnish 'hän', as an alternative to 'han' meaning he and 'hon' meaning she. It wouldn't work in English, of course, since 'hen' already has a meaning and it is decidedly female.

Edited July 5, 2013 by Thorn Wilde

[Kitt]

oh my no!  I can see people being equated with a chicken!

[Sasha Distan]

*is only associated with chicken in the carnivorous sense*

 

my muse got scared away by the bad-porn we found while doing research. i am tempting him back with promises of cute and squishy sex scenes.

[Aditus]

Awww give him a cuddle from mine; his mood is decidedly better today. I revised two chapters of RRS and started to write the final chapter of my WIP.

[Thorn Wilde]

My muse is being moody again. S/he is upset with me for writing a really horrifying scene for one of the Hubris stories last night...

Edited July 5, 2013 by Thorn Wilde

[Kitt]

Since I am not a writer anyway perhaps I am better off without a muse. The seem like flightly things to me. Temperamental even.

[Tomas]

Since I am not a writer anyway perhaps I am better off without a muse. The seem like flightly things to me. Temperamental even.

Not flighty, but moody and temperamental yes. Ofttimes times sneaky and down right nasty. Other times warm, cuddly and cooperative. But then aren't we all.

[Former Member]

Though I can downright hate my muses sometimes, I would never want to be without them.  I think my brain would be too quiet if I didn't have either one or both of them sitting up there. *shudders* I never want my head to be quiet.

[Sasha Distan]

i would give my back teeth for my characters to shut up sometimes. the reason i wrote Bad Stereotypes so quickly was because Bay just kept on jabbering at me. he drove me and the muse a bit nuts to be honest

[Aditus]

Yeah next question: What do we do if the muse gets overexcited? Give him/her a beer? Go to the gym? Read other writer's work?

Edited July 6, 2013 by aditus

[Thorn Wilde]

I don't have that problem. If my muse gets super-productive I just enjoy it while it lats and write like my life depends on it.

[Kitt]

Ummmm...... Take notes as fast as you can, then go back and elaborate when s/he finally winds down and rests?

[Former Member]

What Thorn said.  Bask in the rare times when it wants to do something.

[Sasha Distan]

if he gets too bad i give him cider xxx