[DomLuka] Sex Scenes?

[writeincode]

I definitely agree with Mayamys.... I am sooo curious about the way Dennis would handle sex, specifically the way Dennis would handle sex with Travis. It would not only give ud character insight but relationship details.

 

>Do they kiss after sex or just grunt and roll over?

>Foreplay or straight to the main event?

>And of course the notorious: 'who is on top?' question...

 

Need to know.

 

I also want a Dom sex scene. With all 'character detail', 'insight' etc. considerations aside we haven't had a sex scene since WT...

[Graeme]

I also want a Dom sex scene. With all 'character detail', 'insight' etc. considerations aside we haven't had a sex scene since WT...

Somehow, I don't think Dom will write a sex scene with himself in it Would you be happy with a sex scene that had a couple of his characters in it, instead?

 

Seriously, I still think it is ultimately up to him to decide what to do. I have seen a perfectly good story drop in standard because the author put in what I considered to be a gratuitous sex scene for most of one chapter. I don't think Dom would do that, so if there's a sex scene, it will be a natural part of the story and not just put in because readers ask for one.

[Conner]

Seriously, I still think it is ultimately up to him to decide what to do. I have seen a perfectly good story drop in standard because the author put in what I considered to be a gratuitous sex scene for most of one chapter. I don't think Dom would do that, so if there's a sex scene, it will be a natural part of the story and not just put in because readers ask for one.

 

Graeme, you're driving me to distraction. :wacko: The only member talking about gratuitous sex in this thread is you. Members have put forth several good arguments for a sex scene between Dennis and Travis, none of which you have addressed. I hope you are not implying that such a scene, had it appeared, would have been unnatural.

 

Your "standard" around sex scenes and quality stories seems somewhat Victorian to me.

 

Conner

[Graeme]

Graeme, you're driving me to distraction. :wacko: The only member talking about gratuitous sex in this thread is you. Members have put forth several good arguments for a sex scene between Dennis and Travis, none of which you have addressed. I hope you are not implying that such a scene, had it appeared, would have been unnatural.

It sounds like we agree in principle. I haven't addressed the arguments for the simple reason (puts on a hardhat to protect myself from the stones) I haven't read the story yet. I'm waiting for the story to be finished before I read it. I can't comment on whether such a scene would fit the story. I've been talking generically -- that a good story (the only sort Dom writes) would only have a sex scene if the author thought it helped the story along.

 

Your "standard" around sex scenes and quality stories seems somewhat Victorian to me.

Thanks, Conner. That made me smile. Since I live in Victoria, Australia, I'm glad to see that you think my views are Victorian. This is a right and proper thing, in my opinion...

[MayaMys]

I've been thinking about this for a while now and I believe that sex scenes may reveal more about the characters than Dom wants revealed at this point in the story.

 

I've been actually thinking that, too...at times it seems like Dom is doing this to us on purpose, really. I'm just hoping he doesn't forget about it...or something. When writing a story authors can make mistakes. As Graeme mentioned, putting in a sex scene when it is not necessary is a mistakes that lots of authors make. I know it is a small chance but I do fear that Dom will not give us any information; whether it'll be in order to torture us with mystery (or just plain old lack of sex as a "f**K you" to the readers on Nifty demanding sex) or just because he would forget to put one in, I don't know (I'm thinking that the former is more likely, but who knows. Dom has left things out of stories that the rest of us readers wanted to see, although those things tended to be not very important).

 

Well, I guess we will see.

 

I love knowing that so many people actually read my wall of test, by the way.

[NaperVic]

I know it is a small chance but I do fear that Dom will not give us any information; whether it'll be in order to torture us with mystery...

 

MayaMys and others,

 

I re-read the later posts in this thread and I think you have hit on something. Dom isn't giving us details about sex between Dennis & Travis because it might reveal too much about each of them at this point.

 

I know my opinion will change of Dennis and of Travis if I find out which role each played during their lovemaking. Maybe at this point Dom wants us to think that they are versatile? Or that our opinions of them should not change once someone 'tops' or 'bottoms'.

 

Take Care®,

 

Vic

[Korbin81]

Just came across the topic today and I thought I'd add my two cents. I think that ultimately the author knows best when it comes to what kind of story they want to portray, whether it has explicit, mild, or no sexual content is at their discretion and personal writing style. I prefer to read stories with plenty of sex, violence, or a combination of both (I blame my love for SF/Fantasy books); but with a plot driving the action (you can see that it's therefore very difficult to find decent stories which meet the criteria). I like lots of descriptive writing and attention to detail; it really frustrates me sometimes when an author pulls me into their story, by way of beautifully illustrating with words giving me a clear picture into their world, and then gloss over sex. I think that a story is best when all the things that life entails are included in the telling. So yeah, sex is important, because it

[AFriendlyFace]

Just came across the topic today and I thought I'd add my two cents. I think that ultimately the author knows best when it comes to what kind of story they want to portray, whether it has explicit, mild, or no sexual content is at their discretion and personal writing style. I prefer to read stories with plenty of sex, violence, or a combination of both (I blame my love for SF/Fantasy books); but with a plot driving the action (you can see that it's therefore very difficult to find decent stories which meet the criteria). I like lots of descriptive writing and attention to detail; it really frustrates me sometimes when an author pulls me into their story, by way of beautifully illustrating with words giving me a clear picture into their world, and then gloss over sex. I think that a story is best when all the things that life entails are included in the telling. So yeah, sex is important, because it

[glomph]

I think that a story is best when all the things that life entails are included in the telling. So yeah, sex is important, because it

[Menzoberranzen]

Chapter 25 of "The Ordinary Us" is really amazing writing. Dom's most detailed sex scene is near the end and in all of its details it brings the story to its ... er, conclusion. [i really had to struggle not to type "climax," but it certainly is that in a very rich sense.]

 

Somehow, I find it inconceivable that someone would skip that scene, or at least very sad if someone really managed to.

 

 

As one of those who skips sex scenes, I feel compelled to respond.

 

By skip, I mean skim, so when I notice a scene (such as the aforementioned one) that has great significance to the plot, I will stop and read it thoroughly. However when the sex is just sex, with no particular relevance to the advancement of the plot (such as many of the sex scenes in TLW) then I feel comfortable skimming quickly over it.

 

Yes, sex is part of life, but so are lots of things that I don't particularly want to read about. I wouldn't, for example, read a detailed scene about someone's sojurn in the bathroom after taking a laxative (not, of course, that I mean to imply sex is disgusting :wacko: Just that not everything that is part of 'life' needs to be written about.)

 

Menzo

[MikeL]

As one of those who skips sex scenes, I feel compelled to respond.

 

By skip, I mean skim, so when I notice a scene (such as the aforementioned one) that has great significance to the plot, I will stop and read it thoroughly. However when the sex is just sex, with no particular relevance to the advancement of the plot (such as many of the sex scenes in TLW) then I feel comfortable skimming quickly over it.

 

Yes, sex is part of life, but so are lots of things that I don't particularly want to read about. I wouldn't, for example, read a detailed scene about someone's sojurn in the bathroom after taking a laxative (not, of course, that I mean to imply sex is disgusting :wacko: Just that not everything that is part of 'life' needs to be written about.)

 

Menzo

 

Menzo,

 

Your case is well stated. I would agree that some descriptions of sex in stories are laid out in excessive detail (ad infinitum, ad nauseum). I have never found that in any of Dom's stories. Skim at your own risk.

Edited August 13, 2007 by MikeL

[writeincode]

Somehow, I don't think Dom will write a sex scene with himself in it Would you be happy with a sex scene that had a couple of his characters in it, instead?

Darn! I guess I could settle for some character action... although I will still remain somewhat disappointed.

 

Just came across the topic today and I thought I'd add my two cents. I think that ultimately the author knows best when it comes to what kind of story they want to portray, whether it has explicit, mild, or no sexual content is at their discretion and personal writing style. I prefer to read stories with plenty of sex, violence, or a combination of both (I blame my love for SF/Fantasy books); but with a plot driving the action (you can see that it's therefore very difficult to find decent stories which meet the criteria). I like lots of descriptive writing and attention to detail; it really frustrates me sometimes when an author pulls me into their story, by way of beautifully illustrating with words giving me a clear picture into their world, and then gloss over sex. I think that a story is best when all the things that life entails are included in the telling. So yeah, sex is important, because it’s part of life. Honestly it shocked the pants off me to learn that people actually skipped over sex senses, which I always look forward to. I guess if all you read are stories that play up the regular vanilla "place the nail over a hard surface and pond until flat scenario" I will admit to it gets a little stale after the uptenth time, but with a creative mind behind the pen (and a little kink), sex scenes have the potential to be exceptionally entertaining, as well as address pivotal plot points. Now I guess you all think I'm a super perv, but I'm perfectly happy if a story skips out on explicit and gives the reader tantalizing sensuality instead. I also don't think that a good story means sex has to be in every chapter. DD is a decent example of what makes an intriguing read without becoming a smutty romance novel (no offence to smut ). I guess I'm one of those hated Nifty readers that ruin good clean wholesome fun for everyone, but years ago that's how I came across Dom's stories and became a rampant fan. I absolutely loved TOSOM and it didn't have any sex......... but it had violence, so maybe I'm not as objective as I thought.

Well said! I sooo don't see you as abnormally perverted because aren't we all a little perverted? (Perhaps not Graeme with his sad Melbournian Victorianism, possibly brought on by a lack of beautiful beaches and an overall deficiency of the splendor experienced by Sydney-Siders... [no hard feelings])

 

Yes, sex is part of life, but so are lots of things that I don't particularly want to read about. I wouldn't, for example, read a detailed scene about someone's sojurn in the bathroom after taking a laxative (not, of course, that I mean to imply sex is disgusting :wacko: Just that not everything that is part of 'life' needs to be written about.)

I know exactly what you mean i hate when they go into the i-can't-believe-someone-actually-typed-that-i-think-i'm-going-to-be-ill descriptions... *gag/shudder*

You're analogy was quite apt considering that i actually began reading one story and promptly closed the window when a graphic description of an enema began. (it made me feel kind of ill to write that just now.)

Edited August 14, 2007 by writeincode

[AFriendlyFace]

As one of those who skips sex scenes, I feel compelled to respond.

 

By skip, I mean skim, so when I notice a scene (such as the aforementioned one) that has great significance to the plot, I will stop and read it thoroughly. However when the sex is just sex, with no particular relevance to the advancement of the plot (such as many of the sex scenes in TLW) then I feel comfortable skimming quickly over it.

 

Yes, sex is part of life, but so are lots of things that I don't particularly want to read about. I wouldn't, for example, read a detailed scene about someone's sojurn in the bathroom after taking a laxative (not, of course, that I mean to imply sex is disgusting :wacko: Just that not everything that is part of 'life' needs to be written about.)

 

Menzo

So what if the laxative-induced poo scene were extremely relevant to the plot of a story?

 

...sorry that's just a crappy scenario no matter how you look at it.

[writeincode]

The possibility of a graphic bowel movement scenario is still not really a good excuse for skipping/skimming over sex scenes, especially Dom's, which are simply the best. Would you avoid sex altogether just in case, by the off chance, the other person had a weird urination/excretion/asphyxiation/blood/other fetish? I think (hope) not. You have to dive in and be prepared for the worst but at the same time assume it will be the best- such are Dom's (non-graphic, non-laxative-induced) sex scenes. [*raises non-alcoholic drink* Here's to horrible analogies]

 

Omg I just scrolled the page up and saw that Menzo skipped/skimmed over TLW sex scenes... I think my heartbeat just became irregular. Please tell me you didn't skim the tent scene. Please.

 

...sorry that's just a crappy scenario no matter how you look at it.

That was a really shitty pun.

Edited August 17, 2007 by writeincode

[lakini]

lol... ANYway... well said writeincode and maya, i totally agree...

 

As for the reasons for the lack of sex/intimacy scenes... Unlike most of Dom's other stories, which were about highschool students & tended to focus on one relationship developing between two characters, ITFB is more broad in its focus, and is about "a bunch of people trying to sort out their lives" [Dom]. I was thinking maybe that could be one of the reasons Dom decided not to go into more detail on the Dennis/Travis relationship? (Does that make sense?)

[Menzoberranzen]

So what if the laxative-induced poo scene were extremely relevant to the plot of a story?

 

Then I would most likely lose interest in the plot, and therefore cease reading the story.

[Conner]

...

As for the reasons for the lack of sex/intimacy scenes... Unlike most of Dom's other stories, which were about highschool students & tended to focus on one relationship developing between two characters, ITFB is more broad in its focus, and is about "a bunch of people trying to sort out their lives" [Dom]. I was thinking maybe that could be one of the reasons Dom decided not to go into more detail on the Dennis/Travis relationship? (Does that make sense?) (emphsis added)

 

Of course it makes sense. But as you rightly point out, it's one of many possible reasons. There's certainly no simple answer. I believe what comes out onto the page for Dom, or any other author for that matter, is the summation of who they are as persons and, more specifically, as writers. To use a microbiology expression, the reasons are TNTC - too numerous to count. It could be that one reason is Dom knows we're all going to talk about it here in his forums.

 

One issue that I believe comes into play here at GA for all authors (again, there will be exceptions) is the fact that there is a large contingent of gay teens, including a bunch more who hang out as guests. I'm not by any means suggesting that this makes all our authors prudish about including sex scenes. It's just something else that comes into play. Authors writing about teens may well want to put the emphasis on issues like self -acceptance, coming out and building relationships. I believe I would've given my right nut to have had access to a place like GA when I was a teen.

 

Conner

[Graeme]

I believe I would've given my right nut to have had access to a place like GA when I was a teen.

Ditto

[a.cheng]

I believe I would've given my right nut to have had access to a place like GA when I was a teen.

 

Ditto

 

I guess I'm lucky to be in a time, where trying to figure out who you are easier with so many types of resources and people that are totally out there to help out. It makes it just a tad bit easier, but still it doesn't solve everything though.. These stories on GA kind of puts things into view and shows many scenarios and possible outcomes with their good and the bad and everything else that happens. I think that it's great that I found this site, other than the stories, which are out of this world and are great on those awful Vancouver days ; it's full of info and stuff that answers questions and just plain helpful. I can't tell if I'm rambling on a bit or what not, but anyways it