Site Administrator Graeme Posted May 14, 2008 Site Administrator Share Posted May 14, 2008 Whoa! It's Shadowgod who is the one prone to suggesting all manner of horrific things... Sweet, innocent me would never do such a thing as that! Remember, it's Shadowgod who is always unspeakably cruel to his characters. (for anyone who doubts me, recall the motorcycle in LiS!) I don't recall much bad happening to the motorcycle in LiS. Unlike Steve's car in FTL, which was run into things, stolen, and almost chopped up into little pieces (or at least painted and given a new identity). You were a lot more cruel to that car than Shadowgod was ever to the motorcycle in LiS. Link to comment
GaryK Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I don't recall much bad happening to the motorcycle in LiS. Unlike Steve's car in FTL, which was run into things, stolen, and almost chopped up into little pieces (or at least painted and given a new identity). You were a lot more cruel to that car than Shadowgod was ever to the motorcycle in LiS. You are so bad! Link to comment
FrenchCanadian Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Anything is possible! The issue here is that I can't say they are antagonists. If I did, that would be a spoiler, and the Echidna would get me. Let me guess, The scar/Jerry is actually working for someone else? even more evil than him,, Link to comment
Drewbie Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Let me guess, The scar/Jerry is actually working for someone else? even more evil than him,, He is an arms dealer, so maybe Sacha is correct. he could be working for a dictator. Link to comment
FrenchCanadian Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 He is an arms dealer, so maybe Sacha is correct. he could be working for a dictator. Could be it, indeed,, something like he's trying to get someone in power there. Link to comment
Tiger Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Even if The Scar is working for someone else, he is still a heel and has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Anyone who would work for someone like that is not a very nice person. Rather he or she is someone who lacks principles. Thus, The Scar is still one of the bad guys even if there is someone else above him who is in fact the antagonist or "principal character in opposition to the protagonist or hero of a narrative or drama." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antagonist Link to comment
Benji Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Even if The Scar is working for someone else, he is still a heel and has absolutely no redeeming qualities. Anyone who would work for someone like that is not a very nice person. Rather he or she is someone who lacks principles. Thus, The Scar is still one of the bad guys even if there is someone else above him who is in fact the antagonist or "principal character in opposition to the protagonist or hero of a narrative or drama." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antagonist ..........I wouldn't put it past the goat that Scar is working for Eric#1 Link to comment
GaryK Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 For a moment or so let's run with the theory that The Scar is working for someone else. A dictator perhaps. Why would this person want to take over Paraguay? It's a landlocked country that is surrounded by countries that have more or less good relations with the US. The only access it has to a port is via a treaty with Brazil where the Paran Link to comment
FrenchCanadian Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 For a moment or so let's run with the theory that The Scar is working for someone else. A dictator perhaps. Why would this person want to take over Paraguay? It's a landlocked country that is surrounded by countries that have more or less good relations with the US. The only access it has to a port is via a treaty with Brazil where the Paran Link to comment
Drewbie Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) Good point again sacha, Cj pointed it out on his forum of what the scar wants, he wants total power. But we know that Eric would love to ruin his plans I noticed some discussion on what The Scar is really after... I can't divulge any future details, but I can help out my mentioning a few key passages in the narration. The biggest is this one in 38: That's the core of The Scar's plan. In brief, he's offering a strategic incentive; ny taking a country, he makes himself vulnerable in a way that he isn't as just an individual controlling the bombs. He's basically giving the US a strategic rationale to give him what he wants. He's also keeping his demands reasonable, in order to get what he wants. Paraguay and power are what he wants. He'll have some elements of a nuclear program (that's why the fabrication gear was shipped to south America). Paraguay, being landlocked, offers some advantages due to central positioning. It is also already a nexis of the international arms trade (the area near Iguazu, where Branzil, Paraguay, and Argentina meet, is well known in arms dealing circles) trade. Also, the situation in the ajoining Bolivian province of Santa Cruz is an opportunity; it would give The Scar enormous leverage with Argentina and Brazil. He's basically be emulating the Venezuelan dictator Chavez in that regard (control of fuel sources parlayed into influence, plus backing terrorists in neighboring countries, etc. ). Santa Cruz region is very rich in natural gas. (BTW, I am NOT suggestion that the Santa Cruz separatists have anything to do with terrorists, merely that The Scar would be in an ideal strategic position). Basically, he wants absolute power within one country and a good strategic position regionally. He's not out to take over the planet. He craves power, so this gives him what he wants; absolute power. CJ Edited May 17, 2008 by Drewbie Link to comment
GaryK Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Sacha, I think in light of what CJ wrote you do make a good point. Especially considering this is set a few years into the future. Who knows what Paraguay might be like in a few years. With all those corrupt government and military officials all over the place thanks to The Scar's/a dictator's money I guess almost anything is possible. Link to comment
Tiger Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 We must have a meeting now! How shall we sacrifice the goat? Shall we roast the goat over an open fire or sacrifice the goat over an alter to our deity, Shadowgod? Link to comment
Benji Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 We must have a meeting now! How shall we sacrifice the goat? Shall we roast the goat over an open fire or sacrifice the goat over an alter to our deity, Shadowgod? ........I must protest, I've met Steve and his Shadowyness hasn't got an once of evil in him. Use the goats own alter instead. Link to comment
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted June 10, 2008 Site Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2008 Actually, you won't need the spit or alter. By the time I get my Talons into him, there won't be anything left. Link to comment
Benji Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Actually, you won't need the spit or alter. By the time I get my Talons into him, there won't be anything left. ......Ok, we will have Talonrider throw the goat from the cliff, sacrifice at the alter, then roast him. Link to comment
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted June 10, 2008 Site Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2008 Don't forget, we've got a walking pin cushion we can make use of also. Link to comment
Benji Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Don't forget, we've got a walking pin cushion we can make use of also. ........A walking shish ka bob tray? Link to comment
BeaStKid Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Did I mention that I have nice canines and sharp claws?? I am, after all, a Beast!! And we have a resident Tiger as well... Link to comment
Benji Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Did I mention that I have nice canines and sharp claws?? I am, after all, a Beast!! And we have a resident Tiger as well... ........It would seem everyone wants a piece of the Goat!! Link to comment
BeaStKid Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 ........It would seem everyone wants a piece of the Goat!! Of Course!! Link to comment
GaryK Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Don't forget, we've got a walking pin cushion we can make use of also. The Echidna? Link to comment
Tiger Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The Echidna? I should have added that one to the poll. Link to comment
Benji Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I should have added that one to the poll. .........Tie it in!! Link to comment
Site Moderator TalonRider Posted June 10, 2008 Site Moderator Share Posted June 10, 2008 Let's face it. Some of us are a bunch of animals. We should start our own sub-group. Like maybe the GA Animals or the GA Zoo. Link to comment
BeaStKid Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Let's face it. Some of us are a bunch of animals. We should start our own sub-group. Like maybe the GA Animals or the GA Zoo. I already have a jungle of my own... Didn't you notice it in my signature??? *Hint*The big banner in the middle */Hint* Link to comment
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