Comicality Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 It's a real tragedy that something so simple as being who you are is such a tragic and terrifying confession for some teenagers out there. But Grant did it. And I respect and admire that. Tears and all. So congrats to him, and to anyone who finds the courage to go through with something like this. (( Hugs )) To you all... http://youtu.be/8OfGu8upB4A 4
Bill W Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 It was so touching, yet so painful to watch. I'm just glad he added the note at the end saying it didn't go as badly as he'd expected. 1
Lisa Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 I just think it's horrible that there are parents out there who would stop loving their child/kick them out/beat them up, etc. if they found out their child was gay. As a parent, I cannot understand why another parent would do something like this. Your child is the same child he/she was five minutes before he told you. What changed? No kid should be so distraught over coming out to anyone, especially their parents, who are supposed to love them unconditionally. I think Grant is very brave for writing the letter to his mom, and also for posting the video on YouTube, where all his friends might have seen it by now. =) And he's also a cutie-patootie. lol 1
Comicality Posted October 17, 2013 Author Posted October 17, 2013 Agreed. It really just breaks my heart to see people have to go through stuff like this. You know? It shouldn't be something that they need to add to their list of troubles in life. It's like, "Just leave me the hell ALONE!!!", you know? Why can't people do that? What's the big deal? 2
Lisa Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I totally agree, Comsie. I don't know why people have to 'come out'. Why do these poor teenagers and adults have to add this type of stress to their lives? Why can't they just show up with a boyfriend or girlfriend and be done with it? Why do ignorant parents think it's b/c they did something wrong or they think that their kid is getting them back for something. It's ridiculous. Why can't these kids just be? Just let them live their lives. Life is so stressful as it is, and these poor kids have to weigh the pros and cons of coming out to their family and friends. It's heartbreaking. Why can't these family and friends just love them for who they are, not for who they love? Who cares who they love? As long as they're happy. I just don't get it. Why do parents have kids if they're not planning on loving them unconditionally? How can a parent even THINK of kicking their own child, their own flesh and blood, out of the house b/c of something the child has no control over? It's uncomprehendable to me. Anyway, I could go on and on and on, but it's late and I'd bore you. lol But yeah, Grant was very brave and I hope that his YouTube video didn't cause any undue stresses on him. 1
Comicality Posted October 22, 2013 Author Posted October 22, 2013 From what I've seen online (And that hasn't been much), but I think things went okay with him telling his parents. But I just don't understand why this has to be such on ordeal. It shouldn't be. It's not just about sex, it's about LOVE. You know? Slightly unrelated, but I talked about a certain topic on the Shack board last month...where boys were coming out on YouTube, and some of them were as young as ten or eleven years old! Now...on one hand, I thought that was a bit young to determine their sexuality, as I didn't even think hormones were a factor yet at that age. How could they know? BUT...when I think back to when I was in the 5th or 6th grade....maybe even YOUNGER...I knew. I just did. I liked boys. even if it wasn't a sexual thing yet, I just knew. Imagine how revolutionary it would be to prove that being gay wasn't just about sex, you know? If it was just an embedded attraction that meant more than choosing to 'get off'. Anyway, I'm glad that Grant is doing well. And for celebs like Troye Sivan who came out online and are still doing well...I'm happy to see things like this becoming more acceptable in this day and age. It will take some time, but eventually, the ignorance will melt away, and the homophobes will be in such a severe minority that they won't matter anymore. That's my wish, anyway. 2
Comicality Posted October 22, 2013 Author Posted October 22, 2013 Some of the videos in question... http://www.voy.com/15900/2/51432.html 1
Ray169 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) After coming out to my family they disowned me and asked me to pack and leave home. I had moved in with my new boy friend and his family, they are so awesome and very supportive of Luke and me. When we turned 18 we moved into a place of our own, and we are very happy together. The Videos are great. Ray. Edited January 9, 2015 by Ray169 1
Lisa Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 After coming out to my family they disowned me and asked me to pack and leave home. I had moved in with my new boy friend and his family, they are so awesome and very supportive of Luke and me. When we turned 18 we moved into a place of our own, and we are very happy together. The Videos are great. Ray. I'm so glad you had somewhere to go, Ray. There are so many kids who are kicked out and they wind up living in the streets, which is a horrible place for anyone to call 'home'. I know it happens and I know it's reality, but it still astounds me that "parents", they're not even parents, they're egg and sperm donors, would treat their own flesh and blood like that over something that is totally out of the son/daughter's control. Parents are supposed to love their children unconditionally; if you're not going to love your kid no matter what, then you shouldn't be a parent. I'm so sorry this happened to you, but thank God your b/f's parents let you stay there. I hope your "parents" are regretting what they did to you. 2
Ray169 Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 I really don't know they cut off all contact, changed their phone numbers, and moved to who knows where? they even went as far to have a funeral for me. I wonder who or what is in the coffin ?
Ron Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 I really don't know they cut off all contact, changed their phone numbers, and moved to who knows where? they even went as far to have a funeral for me. I wonder who or what is in the coffin ? I often view fiction that includes this type of scenario with a critical eye. Viewing these fictional depictions as somewhat fantastical. Your reality has now trumped some of those fictions. I'm sorry. I know I had no hand in your situation but I'm sorry anyway. 1
Lisa Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Ray, you just gave me chills. They had a funeral for you. I think I'm gonna cry. They never deserved you. They should have never had children. I wish I could hunt them down and torture them. I'm sorry for them that they missed out on knowing their son but I'm more sorry for you b/c you had to go through that. You're better off without them. You have Luke and his parents, that's all you need. 2
Ray169 Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Thanks Ron & Lisa, Yes I have a new family and Luke their wonderful Son treats me like A VIP, we share a special gift hearing each other's thoughts his family has the same gift, it is fun when we do our thing(sex) in bed or where ever we choose, it is strange I know and read in some peoples stories that gift is used in the writings, but we know what gift we have is real. 1
JamesSavik Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 I am the anti-bully. I won't stand for it. If I see it, I will not ignore it.It's not boys will be boys or kids being kids. Those are excuses for people without the moral courage to say NO MORE.There is nothing wrong with YOU. There is something wrong with THEM. 2
MrM Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Ray....they have thrown away an invaluable treasure in you. They have failed you and they have failed God. We are familiar with the 5th Commandment, Honour you Father and your Mother. But, as with every one of the Commandments there is a flip side that is inferred. St. Paul identified this in his letter to the Colossians: Colossians 3:2121 Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged.it's a softball kind of statement for what it's intent means. This meaning that it is incumbent upon parents to love their children as much as God loves them. Endlessly, unconditionally, and never ever throwing them away. Do not grieve your children and waste the greatest gift two parents could ever be given. To do so is to deny their own flesh and worse, to throw back in God's face what He has entrusted them with. It is a sin. so....if their 'killing' you in their hearts was religiously motivated, then they must understand that it is they who have sinned against God and against you. They have failed in their greatest duty and it is they who require forgiveness and repentance. Not you. God Bless You, Sweetheart. I'm glad that you and Luke have found happiness together. This too is a great gift. 4
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