CoTT 2 House of Cards

[Headstall]

2 hours ago, clochette said:

Dear native english speaking friends (sorry Nicky though you can answer too, it'll still be interesting to know the answer for Spanish speaking people), 

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

In France kids start to decode syllabes around 5 and to decode words amd then reading fluently words around 6 years old but lately I've been reading the work of Celine Alvarez about a new, more intuitive method and it's blowing my mind! Kids start decoding words around 3!

Now I'm also wondering how Gary, Albert and Terry did to learn to read when books didn't exist yet when they were that age... 🤔

 

[Headstall]

Well, good news for me. I am not getting cataract surgery. The doc says I wouldn't benefit enough from it, but we will keep an 'eye' on it.   Had eye drops in and couldn't see much for most of the day. I'm relieved, though, and the other problem isn't serious yet. I see him again in one year.  

[Headstall]

7 hours ago, bignick said:

This is fan-fic:

Drewdo Baggins inspected the recent opened package. Curiosity was bubbling inside him. "A ring?", he asked. "Yes", confirmed Spikearagorn. "But it's too big for me", exclaimed the nervous hobbit while holding the golden artifact. "It's for me, silly", chuckled the human, thinking his companion's innocence was endearing. Drewdo looked at Spikearagorn's fingers. Then at the ring. "Your fingers are big, but not that big", he stated, wondering if his savior was making a joke. If so, he missed it. "Who said it's for a finger?, said Spikearagorn, throwing a wink to the smaller man. Drewdo immediately blushed. "Is it going to hurt?", he asked with trembling knees. "I won't lie. Yes, but only for a moment. It's going to be special.  I promise", reassured Spikearagorn. Drewdo took deep breaths to calm his racing heart. There was nothing he wouldn't do for his man. 

So, he sterilized the needle, pricked the man's earlobe, and placed the earring. Very pleased with his work, he said with a smile "me next".

The End 

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you leave fan-fic to the experts. 

 

[Drew Espinosa]

6 minutes ago, Headstall said:

 

You're definitely on the Naughty List.

[Drew Espinosa]

8 minutes ago, Headstall said:

but we will keep an 'eye' on it.

Handsome, don't you ever get tired of making dad jokes?

[Headstall]

1 minute ago, Drew Espinosa said:

Handsome, don't you ever get tired of making dad jokes?

No.   

[Drew Espinosa]

10 minutes ago, Headstall said:

No.   

[Bucket1]

3 hours ago, clochette said:

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

For me it began at 4 years old recognizing words. I could “read” some stuff before I went to school but it varied a lot with kids in my class.

[Bucket1]

26 minutes ago, Headstall said:

No.   

[Page Scrawler]

26 minutes ago, Drew Espinosa said:

Handsome, don't you ever get tired of making dad jokes?

Max said that he wants to visit Switzerland one day. I'm sure it's a great country. I mean, I don't know much about it, but I hear their flag is a big plus. 

 

[Bucket1]

31 minutes ago, Drew Espinosa said:

Handsome, don't you ever get tired of making dad jokes?

He learned them all from Christmas crackers  

[Drew Espinosa]

3 hours ago, clochette said:

Dear native english speaking friends (sorry Nicky though you can answer too, it'll still be interesting to know the answer for Spanish speaking people), 

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

I could recognize my own name written out when I was about 3 or so, but I didn't start actively reading things until I was like 5 or so.

[Drew Espinosa]

3 minutes ago, Page Scrawler said:

 but I hear their flag is a big plus. 

 

[Headstall]

3 hours ago, clochette said:

Dear native english speaking friends (sorry Nicky though you can answer too, it'll still be interesting to know the answer for Spanish speaking people), 

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

In France kids start to decode syllabes around 5 and to decode words amd then reading fluently words around 6 years old but lately I've been reading the work of Celine Alvarez about a new, more intuitive method and it's blowing my mind! Kids start decoding words around 3!

Now I'm also wondering how Gary, Albert and Terry did to learn to read when books didn't exist yet when they were that age... 🤔

Okay... wasn't going to say anything, but I was actually writing, as in actually writing, not printing, before I started school. I remember my mother talking about my aunt(who babysat us during the day) who told her I was reading as a young child, not just looking at pictures. I don't know how young I was, but it was shocking to both of them. 

I started writing on my own, and that was another shock to them. My first year at school... I was five... in a little one room schoolhouse, the teacher saw my writing in a scribbler (what we called a little book of pages) and asked me to print something on the blackboard, which was actually on the side wall of the school. I don't think she believed it was my writing. Anyway, I wrote a sentence or something on the board, but I wrote it upside down... I didn't print it... and she later told my mother something was wrong with me. Of course my mom set her straight. I taught myself to write, and being left-handed, I had my hand turned so the page was upside down... and that's what I did on the blackboard. 

I'm not saying I'm exceptional, but I was an incredibly bright child according to all my relatives. Unfortunately, an unstable family life made any smarts I had take a backseat to surviving. When we moved up to Ontario, I used to visit a bookmobile and take out four books in the morning and read them, and then take them back by four when it closed, and take out four more so I'd have something to read until the following Saturday. I was probably seven or eight then. A mean librarian lady who took over stopped me from doing that. She said it was four a week... imagine discouraging a kid from reading... evil witch. So... I think I was reading as early as three... four at the latest.

[bignick]

6 hours ago, clochette said:

 good one Nicky !  excellent! And the twist at the end... all along you had me going for another kind of ring  maybe you'll write this story another time

That was part of my plan.  Already working on part 2. 

4 hours ago, clochette said:

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

I agree with the general consensus. Between ages 5 and 6. First the syllabus, then words, then full sentences. Although I do remember learning the alphabet before 1st grade. 

[spike382]

54 minutes ago, Page Scrawler said:

Max said that he wants to visit Switzerland one day. I'm sure it's a great country. I mean, I don't know much about it, but I hear their flag is a big plus. 

 

This hurt my entire soul Pagey! 

11 minutes ago, bignick said:

Already working on part 2. 

[bignick]

3 hours ago, Albert1434 said:

Ok Ok I on your side and what the heck does Spike know!

2 hours ago, Drew Espinosa said:

To quote @Mancunian, "Mmm, trash."

Oh, so you're a critic now.  Wait until you read my next piece: Drewmpelstiltskin. 

2 hours ago, spike382 said:

Traitor. 

Don't worry. He's going to betray me soon enough. 

[Albert1434]

2 minutes ago, bignick said:

Oh, so you're a critic now.  Wait until you read my next piece: Drewmpelstiltskin. 

Don't worry. He's going to betray me soon enough. 

Who me😁 So fun watching you losers!

Edited December 13, 2023 by Albert1434

[Drew Espinosa]

7 minutes ago, bignick said:

Oh, so you're a critic now. 

Take it up with Man, all I did was quote him.

[bignick]

8 minutes ago, Albert1434 said:

Who me😁 So fun watching you losers!

See Spike? What did I tell you? 

3 minutes ago, Drew Espinosa said:

Take it up with Man, all I did was misquote him.

I know, buddy. 

[Drew Espinosa]

2 minutes ago, bignick said:

I know, buddy. 

Babe, I quoted Man verbatim. Here are the receipts! 👇

15 hours ago, Mancunian said:

Mmm, trash 

2 hours ago, Drew Espinosa said:

To quote @Mancunian, "Mmm, trash."

 

[raven1]

8 hours ago, clochette said:

Oh we're going out? Where to?

Hey Clo! We went to our usual pub, Orion Bar.  Had a good time.  I played and won two games of pool. 😄

[Page Scrawler]

@raven1 Hey, Terry! 

[raven1]

6 hours ago, clochette said:

Dear native english speaking friends (sorry Nicky though you can answer too, it'll still be interesting to know the answer for Spanish speaking people), 

Around what age do english speaking kids start to read? Not necessarily full words fluently or even sentences but starting to decode words?

In France kids start to decode syllabes around 5 and to decode words amd then reading fluently words around 6 years old but lately I've been reading the work of Celine Alvarez about a new, more intuitive method and it's blowing my mind! Kids start decoding words around 3!

Now I'm also wondering how Gary, Albert and Terry did to learn to read when books didn't exist yet when they were that age... 🤔

When a child learns to read depends on many factors, Clo.  My younger brother and I were subject to the same parents and teachers.  I learned to read words by age 5, but he struggled a great deal.  He was dyslexic.

My father read stories to me almost every day after work, and on Sunday mornings, we spent at least an hour reading comics in the newspaper.  He gradually went from pointing out individual letters to sounding out letters and then syllables.  By age 5, I could recognize about 100 sight words and decode words I didn't know.  I suspect I could have done what Celine Alvarez is doing if my father had started teaching me earlier and had more time to work with me.  Kids' minds are very plastic, and as a teacher, I quickly learned never to underestimate what a child can learn.

I taught my 10-year-old students how to solve algebra equations.  They also learned how to use a science lab to do experiments at the same age.  Algebra skills resulted in a big increase in the state math testing scores in all areas of math.  The science experiences resulted in better analytical writing skills and logic because they had to learn to write hypotheses and detailed instructions, organize data, and form and support logical conclusions.

In reading, I had my students read a variety of books whose theme was the effects of war on children.  One parent, a teacher, complained that the subject matter was well above her daughter's level.  When the unit was complete, the same parent thanked me and told me she didn't realize that she could have an adult conversation with her 11-year-old daughter. She was very pleased.

The only thing I thought ill advised about the work Celine did in Gennevilliers was using cursive instead of block letters.  Cursive is a dying art. 

I hope this helps you, my friend.  Since this sounds like more than your curiosity, by any chance, is this a research project?

 

[raven1]

4 hours ago, Drew Espinosa said:

The rebel alliance is breaking apart!

Hey Drewster,

Did you have another scary nightmare?  Your comment is a very common first reaction to a nightmare when waking up.