[DomLuka] Will Brad be a 'Adam' or a 'Ryan?'

[Bardeara]

Ok so I figured I would finally creep out of the shadows and posts on this sight. If anyone wants to know who I am I was AP999 on the forms that Plasticreality did for Mr. Luka. With that said, I figured I would start this wonderful topic because I was interested in your option.

 

This is your warning, if you haven

Edited July 21, 2005 by Bardeara

[Bardeara]

Bardeara, I remember your posts and especially your cool yin-yang thingie avatar!    Glad you've started posting here, and hope we see you around more often.

 

My vote is that Brad is going to be a good best friend to Quinn. I am curious to know the explanation for his initial reaction to Quinn's coming out to him, though.

 

Kitty

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Well I guess the bright side to me posting here now is I have a whole new bunch of people to show off my yin-yang thninie to

 

Personal I am uncertain on how to take Brad. I'm normal farly good at picking up on which way a writer is going with a story but with Mr. Luka I am at a loss.

[AFriendlyFace]

I think he'll lie somewhere between the two. He's already had too extreme a reaction to at least start out like a "Ryan", but on the other hand he'd grown up with Quinn, and had every reason to assume he was straight, it's more of a shock. Ryan hadn't known Owen that long, had never seen him dating girls, and already knew that he had a gay brother and friends. There's just less shock factor, and of course different backgrounds, Ryan had quite a few gay friends, presumably Brad doesn't have any. On the other hand it doesn't seem like Brad's had the same, closed-minded background which Adam seems to have had. And he's already said in a previous chapter that he didn't think Quinn could ever do something to make him hate him. So in all likelyhood, I'd have to say that he'll be closer to the Ryan end of the spectrum, but naturally have more adjusting to do.

[Masked Monkey]

Well I guess the bright side to me posting here now is I have a whole new bunch of people to show off my yin-yang thninie to   

 

Personal I am uncertain on how to take Brad.  I'm normal farly good at picking up on which way a writer is going with a story but with Mr. Luka I am at a loss. 

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I'm sure there are a few who don't mind a peak at your thingie, regardles of if it is yining or yanging

 

As to what Brad will do, I find myself unable to predict Dom on this one. I suspect that Dom was trying to get us (the reader) to worry that he was gonna react badly, but I don't think he is. Maybe Brad is confused about himself, or maybe he is really pissed that Quinn had this going on in his head and his life was falling apart and he couldn't trust Brad.

 

Yea, thats what I think. Brad is gonna be the cool best friend that Nicky would have been if Owen had stuck around (maybe we'll get a threesome in this story hint hint hint).

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic

 

I will be a Danderthal again, if Dan ever gets off Trebs and writes again.

Edited July 21, 2005 by Snow Dog

[Ann]

Am i the only one who doesn't think that Brad's reaction was 'extreme?' He needed a minute. It seems understandable to me. Quinn didn't show any signs that he was gay-ever. There were what, 2 pages in a journal that explained his 'true' feelings? It was also a journal that only Quinn ever laid eyes on, as far as we know. Quinn surprised Brad, and realistically speaking, I don

[Masked Monkey]

I'm beginning to think that Dom's stories should be required reading for all straight teenagers, so that if and when their best friends come out to them, they will know how to react without freaking their friend out.

 

Kitty

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But that is half the fun.

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

 

Edit: I actually think that best friends should just have their trustworthiness tattooed on their forehead , then the gay kids wouldn't have to worry so much about telling them.

Edited July 21, 2005 by Snow Dog

[sat8997]

Am i the only one who doesn't think that Brad's reaction was 'extreme?' He needed a minute. It seems understandable to me. Quinn didn't show any signs that he was gay-ever. There were what, 2 pages in a journal that explained his 'true' feelings? It was also a journal that only Quinn ever laid eyes on, as far as we know. Quinn surprised Brad, and realistically speaking, I don’t think Brad would stop to think about how scared Quinn was after a surprise like that. I think Brad will eventually come around. I doubt he will be as ‘understanding’ as Ryan, but I don’t see him as an Adam.

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I agree with you Ann. Brad had a bombshell dropped on his head. He needs time to digest this new information. I think he'll be a bit uncomfortable for a while, then he'll stand by his best friend.

 

Oh, and AP? That avatar is still freaky. I'm telling you that thing breathes. Creeps me out.

 

Sharon

[NaperVic]

I'm with Ann & Sharon...Brad will end up being a supporter of Quinn (even if he doesn't become part of a Brad/Quinn/Jude 3-way). Brad just needs a 'time out' to sort out the information he just received.

 

Whether you are the gay person just coming to the realization that you are gay or to the friend just finding out that your friend is gay, everyone needs time to absorb the information. It's quite a bombshell for anyone involved.

 

Heck, how well did Quinn take it when he realized that he was gay? It was pretty down right ugly IMO.

 

Even if Brad's first reaction is poor, Quinn OWES it to Brad to at least give their friendship a chance to deal with this 'new' information.

 

Quinn (like stupid Owen was) is too quick to walk away from a best-friendship and is too quick to think the worst.

 

 

Vic the Domaholic

 

P.S. - Welcome Bardeara (formerly known as AP999). Glad you finally made it over here

[Rocketcnj]

Hi, I think it will be interesting...I could be wrong but I believe in one of the chapters that Quinn makes reference to that um when he was like 13 or so that he how shall I say physically expressed or showed his feelings toward Brad in a lustful way....So, maybe deep down Brad knew that Quinn is Gay and just thought that the incident back then was just teenage hormones/experimentation. Whether or not Brad has his own issues...who knows...and I have a sense that Dom won't write it that way and Brad is just the str8 best friend.

 

But beside that, I feel it would have been helpful for Brad to have stayed with Quinn so as to not so freak out his best friend (he knows that Quinn can freak out over some stuff given his shall we say overly wound up/thinks too much kinda personality) However, I do get he was freaked and after all Brad is also a teenager, so he didn't know what to do....and maybe the minutes went on and he didn't know how to handle it and what to say...I must admit it doesn't sound like Brad, who keeps his cool and I would have thought said to Quinn ok what are you talking about talk to me...but hey, at any age, it is quite a revelation that the best friend you knew forever tells you that they are Gay. And to hear it at the teenage years, can be both dramatic, unsettling, bring up one's own issues and for some not sure what to do or say...(and that I feel is true at any age..)

 

I am not good at predicting where Dom will take this. So, I won't venture a guess. I can only hope that Brad recovers, talks to Quinn and sees that it doesn't change things between their friendship. I hope that Quinn also sees it that way too.

 

Also, maybe Brad has his own inner issues and that triggered something in him...I am not sure I think that is what its about. I am guessing he was just stunned, didn't know how to handle it, and left the room. I also wonder why Quinn didn't go to see where Brad was, but I am guessing that Quinn at that point was just as devastated at Brad's reaction and Brad appeared stunned at Quinn's revelation. So, it left them both not communicating, in their own state of shock...for Quinn more so, given his thoughts over and over again that he would be rejected and hated and loathed..thus, it left them in their own separate non communicative orbits and the minutes probably seemed like years.

 

All in all, a classic Dom "communication" snafu....mixed in with best friends/teen angst/coming out and so on.

 

I also wonder what Bree will do...we shouldn't forget that part of the equation. Bree, for Quinn, is also in her own way, one his best friends, his other best friend besides Brad...so it will be interesting.

 

I still say its the perfect chapter. I know Robbie will ban me using the word "perfect".

 

I hope that Brad comes around and Bree finds acceptance of her brother. It will nonetheless interesting. I believe she will be....even if she sometimes misses signals (like the dinner scene where Quinn was so un Quinn like and relaxed when Jude was with the family....I know not exactly a great clue but Quinn wasn't uptight and had Bree noticed she would have seen the way Quinn looks at Jude...hint hint....it wasn't a hey cool dude buddy kind of look but he is yummy and I am wild about him look....and that he acted as the night went by sort of school boy desires school boy....but hey, sometimes those closest to us haven't a clue..so I don't fault Bree for that.)

 

In the end, I am hoping that both Brad and Bree come around......and I believe that they will....

 

we haven't even gotten to Mom..that's another topic altogether...

 

no matter what, Chapter 15 will be a great one:)

 

Michael

[Mark Arbour]

Hi, I think it will be interesting...I could be wrong but I believe in one of the chapters that Quinn makes reference to that um when he was like 13 or so that he how shall I say physically expressed or showed his feelings toward Brad in a lustful way....So, maybe deep down Brad knew that Quinn is Gay and just thought that the incident back then was just teenage hormones/experimentation. Whether or not Brad has his own issues...who knows...and I have a sense that Dom won't write it that way and Brad is just the str8 best friend.

 

But beside that, I feel it would have been helpful for Brad to have stayed with Quinn so as to not so freak out his best friend (he knows that Quinn can freak out over some stuff given his shall we say overly wound up/thinks too much kinda personality) However, I do get he was freaked and after all Brad is also a teenager, so he didn't know what to do....and maybe the minutes went on and he didn't know how to handle it and what to say...I must admit it doesn't sound like Brad, who keeps his cool and I would have thought said to Quinn ok what are you talking about talk to me...but hey, at any age, it is quite a revelation that the best friend you knew forever tells you that they are Gay. And to hear it at the teenage years, can be both dramatic, unsettling, bring up one's own issues and for some not sure what to do or say...(and that I feel is true at any age..)

 

I am not good at predicting where Dom will take this. So, I won't venture a guess. I can only hope that Brad recovers, talks to Quinn and sees that it doesn't change things between their friendship. I hope that Quinn also sees it that way too.

 

Also, maybe Brad has his own inner issues and that triggered something in him...I am not sure I think that is what its about. I am guessing he was just stunned, didn't know how to handle it, and left the room. I also wonder why Quinn didn't go to see where Brad was, but I am guessing that Quinn at that point was just as devastated at Brad's reaction and Brad appeared stunned at Quinn's revelation. So, it left them both not communicating, in their own state of shock...for Quinn more so, given his thoughts over and over again that he would be rejected and hated and loathed..thus, it left them in their own separate non communicative orbits and the minutes probably seemed like years.

 

Michael

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I think you're right about Brad being stunned. The fact that it took him so long to realize that Quinn was telling him he was gay makes me think he had no idea. I wonder if he'll realize on his own why Quinn hit him?

 

Yeah, he could have been more supportive of Quinn, but I think as whacked-out as Quinn's been, we can cut Brad a little slack.

[Masked Monkey]

I think you're right about Brad being stunned.  The fact that it took him so long to realize that Quinn was telling him he was gay makes me think he had no idea.  I wonder if he'll realize on his own why Quinn hit him? 

 

Yeah, he could have been more supportive of Quinn, but I think as whacked-out as Quinn's been, we can cut Brad a little slack.

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I like seeing your cute furry side once in awhile

 

:king: Snow Dog

P.S. No Trebs, No Vic, we do not need a room, it was just a nice friendly comment

[Cris L]

Also, maybe Brad has his own inner issues and that triggered something in him...

 

Like Brad fancies Quinn like mad and is f*cking jealous that Quinn is looking at another guy....

 

The it shoulda been me syndrome !

[Bardeara]

Am i the only one who doesn't think that Brad's reaction was 'extreme?' He needed a minute. It seems understandable to me. Quinn didn't show any signs that he was gay-ever. There were what, 2 pages in a journal that explained his 'true' feelings? It was also a journal that only Quinn ever laid eyes on, as far as we know. Quinn surprised Brad, and realistically speaking, I don

[Bardeara]

P.S. - Welcome Bardeara (formerly known as AP999).  Glad you finally made it over here

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Well I did run away back in May if you remember. I guess I needed a time out on my self. Yes my trip was a wild ride and it had some intresting/intence moments I might add.

 

Skipped my birthday too and when I came back I was shocked at how everything changed. From myself to everyone I know. It different now. Things are not how they used to be. Some bad and some good, but then I knew when I made up my mind to leave that I was leaving everything I knew behind.

 

Yeah I know sounds like I am being a big drama queen. Trust me when I say this. My brother won't talk to me, my parents are sort of on splitvill. My friends have altered and I have people dying around me now that I never would have thought would have been gone. Sadly I might even get the joys to buring my own father in a year, but I'm not playing on what-if until I get told other wise.

 

Anyway back on track. Brad needs to take it all in and will come back with a clear head. Brad is like that where Quinn was always the freak out first think second dispite his obsession with cleaning.

[Bardeara]

Well I guess the bright side to me posting here now is I have a whole new bunch of people to show off my yin-yang thninie to

[Bardeara]

Oh, and AP? That avatar is still freaky. I'm telling you that thing breathes. Creeps me out.

 

Sharon

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Sharon, I think after pondering it for some time, I have to agree. It breathes, but only when your high.

[sat8997]

Oh, and AP? That avatar is still freaky. I'm telling you that thing breathes. Creeps me out.

 

Sharon

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Sharon, I think after pondering it for some time, I have to agree. It breathes, but only when your high.

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Well.......could be one of those flashback things. I'm not saying it is, just that it could be.

 

Sharon

[carmichael]

Okay, so obviously I am totally down with the whole Brad-is-going-to-be-fine-about-Quinn-being-gay scenario, but I really have no idea where Dom is going with this one.

 

Picture this: Brad has a Janie-type meltdown. He starts to think Quinn is sick and needs help. He tries to convince Quinn that he really isn't gay -- he's crazy, and needs to stop hanging out with Jude. What if Brad just cannot/will not accept the fact that his best friend is gay? What if Brad and Jude get in a fight?! Holy hell, who would win?! Or, what if Brad ignores the whole thing: stops talking to Quinn, ignores Bree, pretends the whole family doesn't exist?!

 

Okay, admittedly, I don't think Brad will respond this badly, but this is my line of thinking:

 

Yes, okay, there were a LOT of problems that Owen had to deal with in TLW, and it's sort of the same deal for Rory in DD. But look, each of them had an older, "wiser" person to look up to. We were introduced to an adult-type character that was there for each of these characters. Okay, so Grandma Alice isn't the easiest person to have a heart to heart with, work with me. We're already on chapter 14, and Quinn just has Jude (Taylor and Trina aren't people that Quinn can turn to, at least not with as much ease as someone like Tony or Chris for Owen). Yes, Jude has been just about the only shoulder to lean on, but Quinn is also madly attracted and probably "in love" with him. It just seems like Quinn doesn't have someone to talk to. No Tony. No Chris. No Ben.

 

That being said -- do I think it's too late in the story for Quinn to develop a close relationship with someone who knows that he is gay? Absolutely not. I mean, I have every faith in Bree that she will be an awesome, accepting little sister. But it just seems like all of Quinn's problems would be solved if he came out to his family and his best friend, and EVERYONE was just peachy with the whole thing.

 

Okay, but still, part of me thinks that this story might not be as long as TLW, so maybe we're nearing the end? Who knows? But Quinn hasn't really had to deal with a major tragedy, i.e - a death, parents abandonment, drunken/abusive mother. It certainly seems like he's had his fair share of struggles the past 14 chapters. Yeah, they may have all been within himself, but I think that might be the point of this story.

 

Again, the diversity of the stories is what makes them great, but when I start comparing how things unravel along their respective timelines, I think I can completely overanalyze.

[JulienGregg]

Now, I'm very interested in anything new that Dom will write, but I really hope that DD doesn't become a back burner story. I'm really eager to find out what Rory's life will be like now that he knows about his household.

 

Wow! I'm reading too many stories when I should be writing the two of mine that I have going!

 

Julien

[JotaJota31]

One of the reasons I like Dom's stories as much as I do is the realistic way he portrays peoples reactions. I have no idea how Brad will react, but I won't be upset if he turns out to be an Adam. Like Dom himself said at the end of TLW, people often lose good friends when they come out, and to expect that everyone will be accepting of you even in the long run is kind of foolish.

 

There needs to be those negative reactions to add diversity to the story, and Dom doesn't hold back. That's why he is a kick ass writer.

 

*Edit: Just read carmichaels post, and I was sort of repeating what he already said. Great minds think alike

Edited July 22, 2005 by JotaJota31

[Masked Monkey]

Snowdog you wouldn't mind looking at anybody's thingy...  ... Kitty to answer you question, That's for me to know and you to find out. 

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Um... how would you know? I have no desire to see um... um... um... Michael Jackson's

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

[NaperVic]

Now, I'm very interested in anything new that Dom will write, but I really hope that DD doesn't become a back burner story.

Edited July 22, 2005 by naper_vic

[JulienGregg]

Now, I'm very interested in anything new that Dom will write, but I really hope that DD doesn't become a back burner story.

[NaperVic]

LOL! no that's not a self portrait, but I like it.  Sorry if its freaky.

 

Julien

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It's freaky but I like it .

 

back on topic...

 

Brad will be ok with Quinn being gay,

Bree will be ok with Quinn being gay,

but Marissa won't be ok.

 

Just some predictions, but I wouldn't bet my first born son on them.

 

Vic

[JulienGregg]

Now, I'm very interested in anything new that Dom will write, but I really hope that DD doesn't become a back burner story.