Y_B Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) I can't understand what people see when they worship someone like Britney Spears. I think people who admire Britney Spears still see her as a legacy in light of her past and what she had accomplished rather than who she is now. But yes: I am inspired when a twenty-one-year-old girl goes on a (so far) three-and-a-half-year spree where she makes history countless times. I don't disagree she's very accomplished but a cat being tickled has made history on youtube, so what does that say? I think she could die now and people would still, fifty years from now, compare the next big diva to her. I think Gaga enthusiast tend to overestimate her authority. I give her another 5 years before fading completely into obscurity. My reasons for it is that 1) I don't believe Gaga is as truly influential as people make her out to be. and 2) She came into fame at a time when contemporary entertainment, which exhausts at an increasingly quicker rate, is basically going through pop artists by the month. Remember when Taylor Swift seemed like she was going to take over the world? And boom, now, it's like she never existed. The "5 minutes of fame" has depreciated to 1 minute, so to speak meaning that even the most brightest flame today will quickly die out when the public looks for the next entertaining thing. Edited May 2, 2011 by Yang Bang
Arpeggio Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I do respect that she writes her own music. I think it's cool.
myself_i_must_remake Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 I... don't understand why Yang Bang is dogging my post, but cool.
Y_B Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) I... don't understand why Yang Bang is dogging my post, but cool. Damn, you're fast to scratch.....not sure why you thought I was "dogging' but w/e I assume you wrote a post with the intention of it being read and possibly responded to rather than just talking to yourself....You gave some comments, I wanted to respond, and It was nothing beyond what I would have said to anyone were i to have conversation about Gaga with them. So...something offended you? (damn, people are so quick to throw down the harassment card) Edited May 2, 2011 by Yang Bang
myself_i_must_remake Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 The question was does she inspire you and I answered affirmatively and gave my reasons why. I just don't see the need to go through and discredit all of them. It seemes like a weird thing to do. If she doesn't inspire you, fine, you can list your reasons, but maybe don't go after others'? I'm not "fast to scratch" or "throw down the harassment card."
John Galaor Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Sadly didnt one of the nm orchestras declare bankcruptcy? I'm impressed by your taste in music not a lot of youth appreciate Brahms? there is not enough people that love classic. I like some works of Brahms I heard. But I am not sure I would like all of them. I like also Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and others, but we should have to ask... how it becomes that this person or that other like this music and not other? I was reading about kabuki theater... and well, why we do no like kabuki theater? It is a rhetorical question. I remember I was hooked to Bach when I married. I had bought a play recorder and some records from Bach, among then was "Toccata e fuga". I was from a poor ignorant family that never had books or records. This record player was my first machine to heard music. I did not know anything about Bach except that it was a music composer and famous. Then "toccata e fuga"... it seemed I had read this somewhere. Then, if instead of Bach I would had chose Pink Floyd, I would had get hooked to a different sort of music. The music you like best is that associated with a lustful youth period of your life. What was you hearing when you were full of lust? That is the best music for the rest of your life. But this does not preclude divorces. You can divorce of this music when your lust state disappears. It is like you do not get pleasure out it. So, you divorce. For the lust is not a permanent state. It presents some fluctuations. Then, when your lust come back... what music were you hearing? This will be your next marriage with the best music that money can buy. Well, I love also baroque choruses singing. It awakes my lust and provokes some peculiar swelling on my body.
Y_B Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) The question was does she inspire you and I answered affirmatively and gave my reasons why. I just don't see the need to go through and discredit all of them. It seemes like a weird thing to do. If she doesn't inspire you, fine, you can list your reasons, but maybe don't go after others'? I'm not "fast to scratch" or "throw down the harassment card." Fine, guess I shouldn't have unsolicitedly attempted to make convo Just fyi, don't mistake conversation for confrontation. It kinda caught me off guard cuz I had thought you were chill... Edited May 2, 2011 by Yang Bang
myself_i_must_remake Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Eh, tone is lost a lot online. To tell the truth I didn't mean my first reply to sound really that snarky. Reread your first reply and imagine all the different ways it could be read: one of them, when all the comments are aimed at one person, is kind of an attack. Chalk it up to a misunderstanding. And I would not describe myself as chill. Too much anxiety for that. :2hands:
West Coast Dude Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 there is not enough people that love classic. I like some works of Brahms I heard. But I am not sure I would like all of them. I like also Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and others, but we should have to ask... how it becomes that this person or that other like this music and not other? I was reading about kabuki theater... and well, why we do no like kabuki theater? It is a rhetorical question. I remember I was hooked to Bach when I married. I had bought a play recorder and some records from Bach, among then was "Toccata e fuga". I was from a poor ignorant family that never had books or records. This record player was my first machine to heard music. I did not know anything about Bach except that it was a music composer and famous. Then "toccata e fuga"... it seemed I had read this somewhere. Then, if instead of Bach I would had chose Pink Floyd, I would had get hooked to a different sort of music. The music you like best is that associated with a lustful youth period of your life. What was you hearing when you were full of lust? That is the best music for the rest of your life. But this does not preclude divorces. You can divorce of this music when your lust state disappears. It is like you do not get pleasure out it. So, you divorce. For the lust is not a permanent state. It presents some fluctuations. Then, when your lust come back... what music were you hearing? This will be your next marriage with the best music that money can buy. Well, I love also baroque choruses singing. It awakes my lust and provokes some peculiar swelling on my body. As a musician it's all about playing what suits you and what communicates what you want and can do with the composers intentions, for example. I can't really pull of 21st century Canadian composers. But I can do a damn good interpretation of any of the belle epoque works form the Parisian Era of composers. So it's all what fits you. But it goes through cycles too for me... t
Camilo Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 Lady Gaga is undeniably one of the biggest pop music artists today. She has changed the world of music with her retro style. From the clothes she wears, up to her sexually charged dance songs. She said, before she was Lady Gaga, she had troubles entering into the music industry. Some said she will never make it, and her turning point was the gay community. Gays inspire her, but does Lady Gaga inspire you? Yes. She inspires in a very subtle and distinct way because of her personality and the way she conducts herself. I like that she is a mix of both conforming to the norms while at the same time rejecting them. I think her music is wonderful and love her voice and style. I don't care if other people don't like her (and I don't think she does either). To me, her music is much better (and interesting) than what other people call "real music". 1
Hamen Cheese Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 I like a lot of her songs but no she doesn't inspire me. TBH, some of her videos are a bit disturbing.
Dark Princess Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 Hell Ya !!!!! She is the only pop artist I listen to and her work is AWESOME :great:
West Coast Dude Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 I like a lot of her songs but no she doesn't inspire me. TBH, some of her videos are a bit disturbing. She definitely is an out of the box thinker when she pieces together her videos, don't you think?
Hamen Cheese Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 She definitely is an out of the box thinker when she pieces together her videos, don't you think? Well some of them are different for sure but I'm not sure different is always a good thing. It's like my view on a lot of abstract art - such as the type that looks like the painter just accidentally spilled paint on a canvas just before slipping on a wet patch on the floor and falling butt first on the painting. There are some I like of course but a lot of the times I just go "okaaay..."
DragonMando Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Sadly didnt one of the nm orchestras declare bankcruptcy? I'm impressed by your taste in music not a lot of youth appreciate Brahms? I haven't lived in NM long, so I don't know anything about that. I grew up with very little access to anything but classical and a little bit of traditional Irish and Chinese, so I partially blame that, I suppose. But I also had access to Tijuana Brass, Beach Boys, Queen, and ACDC, but still ended up preferring classical, so I can't blame that in whole. I enjoy the rest in limited doses, as well, though. there is not enough people that love classic. I like some works of Brahms I heard. But I am not sure I would like all of them. I like also Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and others, but we should have to ask... how it becomes that this person or that other like this music and not other? I was reading about kabuki theater... and well, why we do no like kabuki theater? -snip- I was introduced to Kabuki in theatre class last year and thought it was great o_O' I like Bunraku (Japanese puppet theatre) more though. I don't know. I've never really understood the idea of getting all hyped up about a particular artist or whatever. I can be a fan of a concept or a genre, but I'm not really a fan of the people behind them. Case in point, I love dark-themed stuff, a little more specifically, I really like the comic series, Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, so by extension I'm almost required to have a baseline respect for its authour, Jhonen Vasquez, but I'm not a fan of him personally, because I do not/can not know him personally. In Gaga's case, I'm not a fan of pop, nor of any of her songs, so I definitely can't be a fan of her, specifically. I guess it's sort of a trickle-down effect for me. I suppose that, if by some fluke of nature I were to be able to meet Gaga in person and we were to become friends, a respect could grow from that. But no way that's happening. Edited May 4, 2011 by DragonMando
West Coast Dude Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 I mean look at what she's inspiring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PkwOXo9yL8s#at=23
Former Member Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Not really It's not my scene. I'm more into rock/metal. Cheesy pop bands/ singers make me cringe =D If it's true that she's trying to help the gay community, then I can appreciate and respect her for that. But to say she has talent? Hmm... from what I've seen of her preformances, I can't agree. Not knocking her fans though. We all have different tastes fortunately, otherwise the world would be a boring place. Music these days is less about the talent or the actual music and more about the image. It's the same in all pop genres from hip hop to modern punk rock.
DragonFire Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Oh please. Yeah, she makes great music, only the tone deaf would argue otherwise. But to insinuate that she’s inspirational, that is bordering delusional! A lot of people would say she’s eccentric, to the majority she’s totally insane. 1
Kavrik Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Yes. She inspires me. I did this for her on my blog: So yeah, I think she's amazing.
Rizan Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 But to say she has talent? Hmm... from what I've seen of her preformances, I can't agree. ^raw talent. But to insinuate that she’s inspirational, that is bordering delusional! She inspires me, therefore she is inspirational. No delusion.
dimi_joey Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 I think Gaga enthusiast tend to overestimate her authority. I give her another 5 years before fading completely into obscurity. My reasons for it is that 1) I don't believe Gaga is as truly influential as people make her out to be. and 2) She came into fame at a time when contemporary entertainment, which exhausts at an increasingly quicker rate, is basically going through pop artists by the month. Remember when Taylor Swift seemed like she was going to take over the world? And boom, now, it's like she never existed. The "5 minutes of fame" has depreciated to 1 minute, so to speak meaning that even the most brightest flame today will quickly die out when the public looks for the next entertaining thing. hey , Taylor Swift is still very popular, her lastest album had impressive first week sale if I remember correctly. and if like you said popular figures today find it harder to have longevity, then if Lady Gaga makes it 10 years, it would be pretty impressive right?
XBadboyX Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Pro-gay and doesn't sing about a person about the opposite gender most of time. Yeah, I'd have to say that she's better then most.
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