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I just realized something interesting in my head. Geeks and gays are both usually outcasts, but how often do gay guys, who aren't geeks, hang out with geeks? How does it work?

 

Seriosuly, I do want to check this out, because I was a geek in high school and still am today, I usually hang out with gamers, programming people, and others more than I do with gay guys with interests in art, music, or clothes. I still enjoy those things too, but I just like my geeky side more.

 

It's like the two worlds don't mesh unless you got a person from both. My ex-boyfriends were basically illiterate in terms of anything to do with computers or programming, and barely even touched games.

 

Anyone else feel like they are trapped between two subcultures?

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I was a geek in high school, still am but not into video games, I was more up the social latter because everybody knew me and my obsession with movies. Instead of year books I'd have a T.V guide in hand and say 'would you sign my T.V guide?' I had a varity of people talk to me about my movie obsession although I think they were just fasinated, I snuck into movies, memorized them and turned the script in as a months work of bell work, lol. I had an inkling a boy in my class was gay, although he wasn't a geek, he was a soccer player and we walked into class with him singing in a very girly voice 'bad day'. After high school he came out as bisexual, but i guess I'm trying to say is their really wasn't any clicks in my high school cause everybody blended in together. Guess it just depends on what school you went to.

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A good friend of mine is a huge computer geek. Both him and his younger brother (who is far worse), but he's one of my great friends even though I have no interest in that part of his world, and I never go to his LAN parties LOL. I was never into computer games, and the most I played was like Simcity or Pokemon with that Gameboy emulator and you couldn't beat me with a stick to get into programming, even though I know basic Java, but that's as far as I'm ever willing to go.

 

I don't think I belong in any subculture in particular now that I think about it and I'd hate to belong to the gay subculture and am happy I don't. I'm that guy who you can either see as lacking flavor or extremely adaptable depending on how you'd like to call it.

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I'm a computer science major and I knew that even in intermediate school and in high school, so I fit comfortably in the geek category. I wasn't out in high school (until our Senior Ball) so I stayed mostly with the AP kids and the geeks.

 

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For me, what began my realization that I was geek was modding. Something about turning Homeworld into epic re-enactments of science fiction battles like Star Trek or B5 were cool to me and still are (I absolutely love Sins of the Solar Empire franchise for the same reasons Posted Image ).

 

I wish I can find gay modders, who enjoy tweaking their games, playing around with in-game mechanics or even modelling things differently, which I freely admit I suck at doing (I don't have any artistic skill whatsover when it comes to graphic design).

 

In high school, I also had a stage where I was both a geek and VP of the Bible club (Yes, I was in the closet at that point and fighting my own sexuality). There's another weird dichotomy, I can quote biblical scriptures in KJV and the Roman Catholic international version, but I also liked blowing up large ships shaped like the galaxy class enterprise. As I grew, I left the self loathing behind and began hanging out with gay guys, but my geek friends were probably much closer to me.

 

Things change as you grow up, but somethings don't change. I am not as religious as I used to be or play Homeworld as much anymore. Yet, somethings in your life don't change, I still like moddig the newest games and I know I am gay without reservations or fear anymore.

 

I guess for me, being a geek and gay are things that never changed in my life, I might do stuff differently to express it, but they are still part of who I am.

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I'm a total non-geek and I tend to hang out with sporty types and not geeks. I never picked on the geeks in high school, but I mostly just hung out with my jock friends. Good thing that none of them knew I was gay!

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I never picked on the geeks in high school [...]

 

Good. This geek would'a beat the piss outta yeh.

 

I'm the poster child for geek. I study math and physics. I game. I watch star trek and political debates (both with my boyfriend). I know almost nothing about any sport.

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I was and am geek of the order first class.

 

I know Star Trek and Star Wars word for word, love all the old 60s sci-fi (Battlestar Galactica, Land of the Giants), and was captain of my school quiz team.

 

What I know about sport can be written on an envelope and there would still be room for the address and a few postage stamps.

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It took me three years and three computers (destroyed one a year) to figure out that downloading porn from a P2P service wasn't a good idea, so, I'm definitely not a geek, lol. But I am a huge sci-fi/fantasy nerd and a gamer and literally every gay person I know is at least kinda the same. And since someone mentioned sports, everything I know about any sport that isn't baseball or basketball comes from video games. NFL Blitz taught me what a down was and NHL Hitz taught me that hockey is a lot cooler when you can give the players alien heads, lol.

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i play the piano

i work out (not lately im getting fat, work is terrible not enough time, wait sounds like an excuse)

i've played World of Warcraft and was very good at it

i've played soccer

i wear ray ban thick rimmed glasses, obvi fashionable

i had long curly hair for winter times

but i just shaved it off

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but i drive a jeep Cherokee, now

i can program any synthesizer now

music theory is for bitches, but i know it

i like music

i like boys that are smaller than me

have you ever played Legend of Zelda? those are entertaining

my favorite note is F

i like bars

i like booze

i go out with my friends

i watch alot of movies

there are some guys i only see at the gym, our names are "bro"

there are some guys i only hang out with at the studio, or other producers who i do work with, work buddies

some of my friends like nature

some of my friends like game controllers

some of my friends like shoes

some of my friends like poop

some of my friends like dubstep

some of my friends like electro-house (LOLLLOLOL)

some of my friends like shitty "oh woe is me indie music we are so different" music

i like dick, usually

but sometimes boobies are chill

 

which subculture do i fit into W.L?

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Don't know Chase, maybe your omni-curious :P

 

As for sports, I grew up in Boston, if you grew up here as we won World series, super bowls (cross your fingers for another), World championships, and the old stanely cup in less than 10 years, you can't get out of it. I also like to play games and have friends try the madden challenge, which is awesome to watch.

 

By the way, I like taller guys, but I am 5'10, so you have to be a giant, but that's personal preference.

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I'm a geek. Totally. I have 2 engineering degrees and I'm working on a third now.

I run Gay Authors... including all the software design for GA.Stories. (didn't do the programming. I don't have that sort of time)

 

Star Trek, Babylon 5, SeaQuest (Johnathan Brandis was yummy, may he RIP)

 

Almost all my books and games would be classed as Fantasy or Sci-Fi.

 

As for hanging out... I don't much at all. Though I'll take someone cuddly that likes sci-fiand action movies Posted Image

 

... and I'm 6ft tall. Posted Image

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By the way, I like taller guys, but I am 5'10, so you have to be a giant, but that's personal preference.

 

I'm 5'10" too and I've noticed that there are a LOT of guys taller than me, so you can definitely find one. But I'm totally with you, taller guys are awesome b^_^

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I was a bit of a nerd/geek/outcast. I think I had a few bisexual friends, but not outright gay friends. I do now, and I am more of a geek than anything as I enjoy a rousing video game, computers, etc... I can't say for certain what it would've been like back when I had the chance in school, but I do feel somewhat trapped in my situation. I'm not so much of a nerd/geek that I can't function in society, but I also don't always fit in with the hardcore-y-ist (not a word!) of them all.

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When I think about people being gay, or a geek, or an author, or anything else people are, I wonder why anyone needs to be put in a category of some sort and identified that way. I think people limit themselves by identifying with their most obvious characteristic or behavior, and I think it limits the things people see in us.

 

I think you're right. At the same time, many if not most of us hang out with people who share our interests.

 

For example:

 

From about the age of 10 through age 22 or so, I hung out with athletes, primarily because much of my time was spent playing sports. When I thought about myself, I thought about myself as a "jock," and everybody else thought about me that way too. But not exclusively. I also hung out with music types, because I did a little music myself. But mainly just rock band types...I studied so-called "classical" music as well, and didn't hang out with any "group" doing that.

 

In college, in addition to my athlete buds, I also hung out with both the philosophy nerds and the math geeks. There was also a set of us oddballs who spent a lot of time on philosophy of mathetmatics...that was the nerdiest of both of those nerdy worlds.

 

I'm also a liberal Democrat, and while a couple of my best online and offline friends are conservative, or Republican, or conservative Republicans (hi Scott!), I probably wouldn't frequent one of their Gay Republican bars and go drinking with them, because my head would explode. If I hang out in political mode, I'll probably hang out with liberals.

 

There's no "reading" herd for me to run with, or if there is, chances are it's too niched to fit me comfortably. I read widely and voraciously, but I pretty much do that all on my own. Posted Image

 

My point is that you're not necessarily limiting yourself when you label yourself. I'm not sure if it's a universal, but it sure seems like we're herd animals. The labels help us identify people with similar interests. I tend to roam from herd to herd, though, so as to avoid the limitations of one. I'll slap on the label where it helps someone else from the same tribe (to switch metaphors) find me.

 

When I grew up (okay, you people who know me better keep your dang mouths shut) and got real work and married a real wife and had real kids, that pretty much put a whole new set of labels on me which more or less muted the others...but you can still find me in the gym playing pick-up basketball, or participating in an old guys' soccer league.

 

My days of American football are over, though...I'm too old for that bloodsport.

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My days of American football are over, though...I'm too old for that bloodsport.

Adam, you'll never going to be old. You'll always be 18 years old in heart. I do cherish that about you- that you never forget what it was like to be growing up, and you were able to relate to people going through adolescence.

 

As for labels...I mean, it can be limiting, but only if you don't go beyond the label to find the person behind it.

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