Timothy M. Posted June 9, 2016 Author Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Perhaps his solutions to things aren't perfect... I think this may qualify as the understatement of the month ! I had the same thought/concern, Tim. Why would Lucas make that offer? It's far more important for he and Joel to get their closeness back than for Lucas to make Joel like Pierce. Pierce can go fly up a flagpole for all I care about him. Lucas would have been better to either take Joel out for an intimate dinner, or if dancing was that important to him..., go themselves. Now Joel not only has to deal with Pierce, but Lucas's continued divided attention... again. Ok rant over... Yeah, I loved the way you and Gee pointed this out in detail. Edited June 9, 2016 by Timothy M. 1
spike382 Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Lucas is a bit of an impulsive, fix-it-all-in-one-go kind of guy. Perhaps his solutions to things aren't perfect... I didn't really touch on this in my review, but I thought you portrayed this really well. Lucas is stressed, and suddenly the concept of Joel walking out on him is staring him in the face, and so he's begging and trying to fix it all immediately so he doesn't lose the guy he loves. So then he's saying he'll quit right away, whatever he has to do to make this all go away so they can go back to being happy together. I think Lucas made this offer because he's trying to show Joel that he's got nothing to worry about with Pierce, and also to allow them to become friends. It's just as impulsive as his other solutions had been that morning. Hopefully some good will come of it. 2
Puppilull Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 I've said it a few times, but I think we need to look at things from Lucas' perspective (which can be hard, since Frost turned out to be Joel's story, speaking of POV). His fix for their relationship being rocky would be to have fun, like they had in the beginning. Deep, meaningful conversations, even if needed, isn't really his thing. 2
LitLover Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 I get that Lucas was stressed and he’s trying to fix everything at once, but this isn’t what their relationship needs. Joel is pleading with him for one on one time in this chapter. I’m hoping he goes to work, has some time to really think about things, now that the immediate threat of Joel leaving him has passed, and decide to just take Joel out, by themselves this time. He can make nice with Pierce some other time. 2
spike382 Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 I've said it a few times, but I think we need to look at things from Lucas' perspective (which can be hard, since Frost turned out to be Joel's story, speaking of POV). His fix for their relationship being rocky would be to have fun, like they had in the beginning. Deep, meaningful conversations, even if needed, isn't really his thing. The lack of Lucas's perspective may or may not have been mentioned in a review I can definitely see LL's point about them needing one on one time, they definitely need that. I'm pretty on the fence in my opinion about Lucas's fun idea right now. They definitely need to have some dates as a couple, that always reinforces relationships. If they go out have fun together, see a side of New York that Joel hadn't experiended yet and get all dirty dancing hot for each other, I'm all for it. I'm almost wondering if they'll go there, Pierce might have a couple quick friendly drinks with them and then go on the hunt so to speak. That wouldn't necessarily be harmful to their relationship woes. If that's ALL they do, without the meaningful talks, and real quality time with each other, then they're still in real trouble. Or if there's some other situation where something negative happens, Joel is left out etc. Well that won't be too good either obviously. 2
Puppilull Posted June 13, 2016 Posted June 13, 2016 Glitteryantlers found this and I just laughed out loud. Fat cat Lucas...? 1
glitteryantlers Posted June 14, 2016 Posted June 14, 2016 Glitteryantlers found this and I just laughed out loud. Fat cat Lucas...? I was mad and you laugh? 2
Puppilull Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 So the boys are out dancing. I thought they might be shaking their groove things to tunes like these. What do you think? Here's another good one! 1
dughlas Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Yes please, I would be very happy to watch Joel as he moooooved to these. 2
Puppilull Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Yes please, I would be very happy to watch Joel as he moooooved to these. I guess we'll have to use our imagination. Yeah... Just like that...
dughlas Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 I guess we'll have to use our imagination. Yeah... Just like that... Yeeeah ... simply poetry in motion ... now if the muse would just give me the words to paint that picture. 1
Puppilull Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Yeeeah ... simply poetry in motion ... now if the muse would just give me the words to paint that picture. LOL That would be an X-rated poem... *blushing*
spike382 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Giant Vikings dirty dancing in harnesses, I'm going to have good dreams tonight. 1
Puppilull Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 Giant Vikings dirty dancing in harnesses, I'm going to have good dreams tonight. LOL Happy to oblige... 1
spike382 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 LOL Happy to oblige... This is probably one of my favorite things that's happene in the story. Joel cracked me up. 1
Aditus Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Next week I'll be lying on the beach, finally reading 'Frost'. Can't wait. 1
Puppilull Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Next week I'll be lying on the beach, finally reading 'Frost'. Can't wait. I hope you'll enjoy it! I'll post the epilogue next week!
Timothy M. Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 I hope you'll enjoy it! I'll post the epilogue next week! Oh, no, no, no. time to start making a list. 1
Puppilull Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 LOL Tim, I'd love a list! And I am not sure if the next is the epilogue. As I feel right now, it is. But you've persuaded me before, so... 1
glitteryantlers Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 *chanting* sequels's sequel, sequels's sequel, sequels's sequel *holding up banners* 1
Puppilull Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 *chanting* sequels's sequel, sequels's sequel, sequels's sequel *holding up banners* LOL But I need a story line...
glitteryantlers Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) A Friday is always good for a Freytag's pyramid. You only have to fill in the blanks with lots of Edited June 17, 2016 by glitteryantlers 1
Puppilull Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 You know, Glittery, that's pretty much the inside of my head... Now I have a name for it! Thank you!
glitteryantlers Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Happy to help out, it was worth in the end to suffer through a semester packed full with Schiller. (Actually I liked the theory parts way more than the actual dramas.) You know, you can create little sub-lists or boxes when you like *cough* INTJ *cough*, I wanted to copy a more elaborate version, but the resolution was too low. 1
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