About time the issue of expectations on the male form is addressed too! I must confess that for a long time, I actually thought guys just looked like models... Stupid, I know, but since they had muscles and wasn't (usually) thin to the point if breaking in half, I didn't realise the amount of body discipline that went into looking like that. Now, I know better. Still, there is hardly any debate on this (or other issues concerning the male gender role). More discussion on what defines a man would be welcome, at least in my opinion.