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C S R Discussion Day: Things We Lost By Dabeagle


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June has absolutely flown by, but I hope you found the time to read this month's CSR story, Things We Lost by Dabeagle. This novella-length story has a ton of drama, but it's not the usual teen story at all! Check out my interview with Dabeagle first, and then share your thoughts or reviews on the story below.

 

What is the worst thing you’ve ever eaten?
That would be, I believe, sweet bread. The name is deceiving. We were at a dinner at the Italian American Community center and this was one dish served. My husband and I loved it, until we found out it was calf brains.

 

What's your favorite room in your house? Do you plot or write there?
That depends on my mood. I plot everywhere because you never know what will strike you and send you somewhere on an adventure. I do write downstairs, which is one of the places in the house I do enjoy more than others.

 

What’s something personal about you people might be surprised to know?
That I was a submariner in the US Navy and qualified for three different types of firearms as well as being submarine certified.

 

Is there a literary character (in the whole universe of fiction) that you’ve read who you really identified with?
Anyone who pretends like they have their shit together. I like the character who, internally, wonders if they are doing the right thing or if they are interpreting signals around them as they should but who puts out an air of knowing what they are doing.

 

Is there a specific source of inspiration for Things We Lost plot or characters?
Things We Lost was born from the image used, with permission, for the title. I began to wonder who that person was, kneeling on that little stretch of beach, and why they might be there and in that position. That was coupled with a boy I saw at our local YMCA who looks after little ones in the after school program; Tristan's inspiration.

 

How/why did you pick the details for your main character, Ehren, like his name spelling and unusual hair color?
The hair color came from the image; it's unusual enough that it captivated my imagination. His name comes from a book series called The Codex Alera by Jim Butcher. In it a secondary character named Ehren is smart, clever and loyal – and in a spoiler alert, the author implies he gets killed in the last book (majorly pissed me off!) but he actually survives. I tend to fall in love with the side characters due to their mystery, their lack of being fleshed out completely beside a few qualities the author deems necessary for the story.

 

Ehren has interesting gaps in his knowledge most people wouldn’t think, like if he like popcorn or French toast. How much did personal experience with at risk youth dictate those gaps, and how much was just how you envisioned the character?
I've worked with and around at risk kids for years, in one capacity or another – both formal and informal. I can recall a certain young man who, when I worked in a group home, didn't know what errands were. To me, having been dragged along on so many as a child, was inconceivable. Kids that come to us through foster care know things they shouldn't while not knowing what a cooked breakfast smells like. They miss out on so many things, average things that we take for granted. His character is, at the core, a mix of all those kids.

 

For me, because this has been driving me nuts, how old are Ehren and Tris? You never really give an age for them or the other teen characters beyond ‘high school’. Was that a deliberate choice to allow readers to come up with that on their own or just how the story happened to unfold?
I'm honestly accused of this often, and I'm very guilty. Sometimes it's to allow readers their own vision and, other times, it's because leaving it unsaid gives me options later when other ideas develop. Their age would fall into the 15/16 range, though I could clarify that considerably in the sequel.

 

Can you sum up Things We Lost in one sentence?
Maybe a run on sentence, but I don't think so.

 

One final question, which is more of an opportunity of your choice. Share with us what’s coming up next. An interesting teaser about a current story? A plot idea of a story yet to be shared on GA? Spill!!
I've had a hard time finding time to write, recently. Most of that is because beside having two boys at home who are going through very different struggles, we have been asked to take in a third child who is related to us and needs an adoptive placement. Dealing with counties is actually harder than dealing with the kids, sometimes, but between them both I've had my hands full.
There are some developments I have notes on for the Sanitaria Springs series, which I don't own all of and so haven't shared them all at GA. I also have started the sequel to TWL, tentatively titled Things We Found. In it I intend to explore Ehren facing school and 'civilization' from a different perspective.

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This is one of my favorite stories by Dabeagle, and I'm glad to hear that the sequel is in the works. I know how hard it can be to find time to write as a single person, so I greatly admire those of you that are able to juggle family responsibilities and still find the time to write such wonderful stories.  One of the things that I like about Beagle's stories is how he draws on personal experience to portray the reality of dealing with troubled youth.  It takes a special person to be a foster parent, and Beagle and his husband are great parents to their own and foster children.  As someone who's family has experienced the worst the system has to offer, it's refreshing to see the good in the system and that there are good people out there taking care of these children who so desperately need it.  We need more people like them.  :hug:  

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I loved Ehren because he was sensible, realistic and brave. He faced some horrible choices, but he didn't freak out. He had plenty of emotions but they did not rule him. His head ruled over his heart, yet if possible he helped where he could, when his heart told him it was the right thing to do. He stayed true to his core values, and he considered his choices dispassonately and without giving in to unreal hope or despair. He's definitely one of my favorite characters on GA, and I look forward to the sequel.

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I really look forward to the sequel. It will be very interesting to see Ehren adapt to a regular life of a teenager. I guess it will be difficult at times... All those social codes to decode and understand. Not an easy thing. 

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An excellent read and I look forward to the sequel.

Ehren is an intriguing character because he lives in a very different world. One that requires unorthodox means of coping and yet he does and then begins the adaptation to the more mundane everyday life we take for granted. A life full of entirely different requirements and experience. The boy is resilient. 

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I read it all minutes ago. And I undoubtedly agree with the elder Tim here. Ehren is some sort of a kid I wanted to be. In this story he fulfilled my desire to be like that through his guts and all. I really really liked the story, and I smile ear to ear knowing about the upcoming sequel. :D

 

Thanks for sharing with us DabEagle... :)

 

~Emi.

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I haven't had the opportunity to read this particular story yet, Dabeagle but I've certainly enjoyed your Sanitaria Springs writing. I want to correct the horrid misinformation you've received about sweetbreads—not sweet bread, which would in fact be a sweet bread. Sweetbreads are made from the thymus gland or pancreas, offal as their called, so go ahead and feel free to enjoy them as you would the liver and such. It's okay.

 

edit: I had a second thought. Perhaps you were served calf brains which the restaurant or staff mistakenly called sweetbreads. If that were case, they screwed up nonetheless. Let's just say that now you have a different version of the story to tell, which involves deceit, misinformation and, possibly (oh, the horror), down right lying.

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Damn! I'm out of 'likes', and I only 'liked' two or three things tonight! I'll have to come back.

 

TWL was such a wonderful, heartwarming story. It's amazing to think that there are kids like Ehren out there on the streets, living day-to-day, just hoping to survive. The street kid's instincts are different than kids who have homes. I wish every street kid would meet a Piper and Tristan of their own.

 

I'm very much looking forward to the sequel, Beagle! :) And good luck with your boys and your relative. I hope it all turns out well.

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Things We Lost was a very moving story.

 

I'm not a fan of sequels, but the prospect of Ehren's encounters at school and in 'normal' life does sound deliciously intriguing!

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I'm very grateful for the responses. It's always nice to hear what people think and what worked for them specifically. I hope this feature will introduce me to new people as well as give me a nice opportunity to thank the supportive readers who read and respond.

 

Thanks!

 

I liked the story.

I liked it for it shows the gap between the kids, who have good parents and do economical well, and  the kids that do not have that.

Kids like Ehren still live today and... now with milions of refugees from Middele eastern countries there are thousands of them more.

 

It is a gap I knew when I was young and it is a gap still even now when I'm the older generation.

The big problem is... the kids wo'nt tell. They try like Ehren to cope on their own. They loose the trust in adults...  because their home situation is like that. Adults are... not ... people you can trust and can go to when things are bad. Problem is you can only survive by being a street rat. And no adult wants a kid like that.

Ehren is lucky for he gets adopted by friends his age... And their parents did what their kids wanted and maybe needed.

 

I loved the story and the realistic setting. There are lots of kids out that way and...  not all of them are gay !

 

I look forward for a sequell.

 

Thanks for the story. Loved it. . :hug:

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Just as well I'm on holiday at the moment. On impulse I started reading this. I've been interrupted by going out to lunch but I'll be back to it later this afternoon. It's really holding my attention and that's a very good sign!

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