[DomLuka] DD 16 discussion?

[Bao]

Itll be good. Thats what I told myself fifteen minutes after I got back with Jude and started to dial Aarons number. Talking to Jude had made me feel better about things;

lol Edited December 7, 2005 by Bao

[Ann]

lol

 

Well, it's not the first time he's mixed up Jude/Luke. Off to read...

[Bao]

Well, it's not the first time he's mixed up Jude/Luke. Off to read...

not luke. lol

Edited December 7, 2005 by Bao

[whey]

So, do we all officially get to hate Aaron now? And please, please let Rory get his head out of his butt! Everyone, EVERYONE, is telling him what a loser Aaron is (even his "friends"). When is the nitwit going to get a clue and believe them? Aargh.

[Bao]

seth is turning out to be not that bad.

[Trebs]

Arrrggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh...

 

 

Are you SURE this is the chapter Dom wrote? Did Vic maybe switch it with the real one submitted? Aaron wasn't as sweet, warm, caring, considerate, and wonderful as he usually is...

 

 

<sniffle>

 

 

Ok - some Aaron elements I'm not happy about. But as to Seth - still think he is a total jerk. ESPECIALLY - he has to know that Dave likes Angela - it's Seth's idea to have Dave help. Totally fits with Seth being a major assh*le (and not the good kind)...

 

And ya - seeing "Jude" instead of "Jase" was classic...

[Rabble_Rouser]

I agree that Seth is an ass but as the story progresses, it looking more likely that he is warning Rory just because he knows what Aaron is up to.

 

It's great to see that Rory and Jase/Jude had a talk and put the cards on the table. Now if only Rory can get someone he trusts to talk about Aaron, Rory might see the error of his ways before he becomes another notch on Aaron's bedpost. Given the what different people have told him, he needs to try and clear the teenage hormonal fog and think about things objectively

 

Aaron could have made his first big mistake with Rory by throwing down an ultimatum forcing him to chose Aaron (who he admits is either pissing him off or kissing him) and Luke. It seems that every time Rory starts to see Aaron for what he is and what he's doing, Aaron kisses him and adds another shot of hormones to cloud Rory's judgement.

 

Maybe Luke will just lay a big one on Rory and solve the problem!

[Tim the Traveller]

Awesome chapter.. Thank you Dom!!

 

ok, so when Ann suggested seth get hit by a bus, I being the nice guy i am, shot down the idea and defended the poor helpless front end of the bus. However, if the same were suggested of Aaron(TLS) I think i will have to vote for "better get MAACO" .

[Philistine]

seth is turning out to be not that bad.

 

agreed. i'm actually starting to see his general bad attitude as justified. i mean, hanging around with your ex (probably cuz he's been guilted into it. i wouldn't put it past aaron, really. and the more i hear from him, the less i see him as the type to actively put himself in that pining-after-his-ex position.) and being forced to watch him totally use another guy (who hasn't exactly put his best foot forward as far as interaction with seth is concerned). and you know what? i think aaron completely made up that stuff he claimed seth said. he doesn't seem gullible enough to actually believe something like that.

[Alan]

Angela is presumably endowed with certain inalienable rights such as making up her own mind about who to be with. We do not know anything about her situation with Seth. All we know about her situation with Dave is that Dave likes her. Liking someone is not a property title, especially when Angela seems to be totally unaware that Dave is crushing for her.

 

I admit I don't understand why people feel driven to assume Seth is a bad guy. Given Aaron's taste for lying, it's more likely that Seth is just another victim.

[NaperVic]

It

Edited December 7, 2005 by naper_vic

[JotaJota31]

So, do we all officially get to hate Aaron now? And please, please let Rory get his head out of his butt! Everyone, EVERYONE, is telling him what a loser Aaron is (even his "friends"). When is the nitwit going to get a clue and believe them? Aargh.

 

I totally agree. Seemed like a really jerk thing of Rory to do since he was at the park with Luke and his friends. Why is he torturing himself by trying to date a guy that has a bad history with everyone he lives with? There are plenty of other guys out there.... ones that dont make you choose between them and the person that lives 2 doors down the hall from you.

[shadows]

Okay, I'll admit I'm getting a little weirded out by all the comments about Rory & Luke. They're relationship seems more like brothers (in how they act) then potential bf's. I'll be a little weirded out if they get together. Plus, can you imagine how Jase and Eddie would handle that?

 

I'd rather see Rory with somebody entirely different, but it's too late in the story to really introduce somebody new. I'd go with Seth. Wow, this story really has a small case of characters. Luke, Rory, Jase, Eddie, Grandma, Aaron and Seth. (Kind of Dave). Easier to keep track of everyone than TOU

 

//shadows

[Philistine]

I'll be a little weirded out if they get together. Plus, can you imagine how Jase and Eddie would handle that?

 

actually, i'd really like to see that, for the entertainment value alone. though i'm this close to jumping on the rory and seth bandwagon, i'm not throwing the idea of luke "liking" rory entirely out the window just yet.

[Trebs]

Without introducing anyone new - there is still Rick. He was the first one at the park to notice Rory's shiner... and the way they talked about Rick doing all of his own party planning, made me think of him as part anal Quinn, part Martha Stewart.

 

I can see the morning after his party, he and Rory waking up with hangovers, in Rory's bed.

[NaperVic]

Without introducing anyone new - there is still Rick. He was the first one at the park to notice Rory's shiner... and the way they talked about Rick doing all of his own party planning, made me think of him as part anal Quinn, part Martha Stewart.

 

I can see the morning after his party, he and Rory waking up with hangovers, in Rory's bed.

 

<gasp! agreeing with Trebs!>

 

I agree that Rick is a posibility for Rory. Rick is on the swim team (like Rory will be if he stays in AZ). And if Rick is related to Gina from TLW, he must be cool.

 

Ok - some Aaron elements I'm not happy about.

 

And everyone talking about Aaron being bad and/or Seth being bad. Well, you're all right , they're both bad. Cause birds of a feather flock together. See how Aaron was hanging out with the 'older', 'drinking' crowd at the park? tsk, tsk

[dkstories]

Rory will end up with Seth (Seth's really jealous because he wants Rory paying attention to HIM instead of his ex).

 

Aaron and Luke will end up back together (Luke's still carrying a torch for him after all).

 

and because Dom's such a nice guy, no buses will be harmed in the writing of this story...

[c.a.]

Hi, long time reader, first time reviewer.

Ok, I've changed my position on Aaron. He blows and not in the good way. Someone once told me that when a person gives you an ultimatum then that shows they really don't respect your feelings that much and that seems entirely the case with Aaron and Rory.

 

I hope Rory wises up before he gets hurt. And if Rory doesn't go after Luke then I would never forgive for that. I'm not sure if Luke has feelings for Rory, or not, and I can't really say I'm worried; I like their relationship a lot right now. And as far as Rory/Seth goes, I'm kinda intrigued. I really want him without the cap though (it's bugging me)!

[Bao]

i think aaron is drunk lol

[Rabble_Rouser]

Another thing that maybe Rory should open his eyes to are the "friends" Aaron was at the park drinking with. Rory states:

 

For some reason the scene struck me as odd... and made me a little uncomfortable.

 

Maybe Rory should pay attention to the little warning bells he was hearing. This would be the first time he's stumbled upon Aaron when it wasn't part of Aaron's scheming and gets to see the kind of people that Aaron chooses as friends other than Seth.

 

BTW, I don't know about in the good old US of A, but up here in the frozen north getting caught drinking in public is a pretty good fine and drinking underage (assuming Arizona is an Over 21 state) means a not so pleasant trip before a judge (don't ask how I know )

[Philistine]

Aaron and Luke will end up back together (Luke's still carrying a torch for him after all).

 

oh please, GOD, no!

 

oh, and uh...i love your writing.

Edited December 7, 2005 by Philistine

[Naiilo]

Without introducing anyone new - there is still Rick. He was the first one at the park to notice Rory's shiner... and the way they talked about Rick doing all of his own party planning, made me think of him as part anal Quinn, part Martha Stewart.

 

I can see the morning after his party, he and Rory waking up with hangovers, in Rory's bed.

 

Not being able to really predict what is coming next in the story is something I like about serials. Who knows what will happen next? Well really only Domluka, right?

 

 

-Naiilo

[NaperVic]

So, do we all officially get to hate Aaron now?

 

Some of us have been singing that tune for a while now .

 

Now I think it's only a matter of time before Aaron gets shipped off to military school or a seminary.

[Bardeara]

Ok at the risk of being shot, I dare to open my mouth.

 

Since this story is heavily revolving around the idea of who will Rory pick in the end. I have a feeling this is how the next chapter will go down.

 

Rory will have to in the end be driven home by Aaron. This is because if Rory leaves Aaron on the spot then there is a great chance that it will be over then and there. We will then see the progressing aspect of Rory and Luke getting together as the next 15 +plus chapters emerges. Note Dom did say that he figures that DD will surpass TLW so that means a lot will be taking place.

 

This means either Rory will go after Luke and Luke will leave Rory there to be with Aaron, or Rory will stay with Aaron and figure he can talk to Luke later.

 

Rory must now choose between his Heart, his head and his gut. The question will be which one will he ultimately listen to.

[AFriendlyFace]

seth is turning out to be not that bad.

 

WHAT??? I musta missed that . I agree that their confrontation at the pretzel stand made me think even more that Seth was just being manipulated by Aaron, and is some how unable to resist his charms or something. But that doesn't make him a good person. As someone else commented he talked Angela into making Dave help them build that patio, that's pretty mean and spiteful, and I think he does know how Dave feels about her, in a previous chapter Rory confronted Aaron about Seth being with Angela, chances are Aaron mentioned this to Seth. In my opinion Seth is still very bad news, and until he drops some of the hostility and all around "I'm going to be the biggest jerk in the history of the world" mentality I don't like the idea of him being around any of the other characters.

 

Okay, I'll admit I'm getting a little weirded out by all the comments about Rory & Luke. They're relationship seems more like brothers (in how they act) then potential bf's. I'll be a little weirded out if they get together. Plus, can you imagine how Jase and Eddie would handle that?

 

I'd rather see Rory with somebody entirely different, but it's too late in the story to really introduce somebody new. I'd go with Seth. Wow, this story really has a small case of characters. Luke, Rory, Jase, Eddie, Grandma, Aaron and Seth. (Kind of Dave). Easier to keep track of everyone than TOU

 

//shadows

 

I think I'd have to disagree on both points. I think Rory and Luke's relationship is very cute, and I hope they do end up together, but you're right in that it could easily turn "brotherly", and I'd be okay with that too.

 

As for DD having less characters and less complicated characters than TOU, I'd have to disagree, it seems to me like DD has alot more, and alot more complicated characters than TOU....But it may just be because DD is fresher in my mind.

 

Hi, long time reader, first time reviewer.

Ok, I've changed my position on Aaron. He blows and not in the good way. Someone once told me that when a person gives you an ultimatum then that shows they really don't respect your feelings that much and that seems entirely the case with Aaron and Rory.

 

**Sigh** so have I, I'm afraid. I still want to see some kind of redemption for Aaron, but most of the reason I was always "in his corner" as it were, is because I saw him as some poor isolated kid who had made one mistake from which he could never be free of. I figured he basically had no friends and everyone hated him for Luke's sake. As soon as Seth was introduced to the story I started liking Aaron less and less, seeing that he did have at least one friend (if you can call the mutual horrible way in which they treat each other friendship).....now in this chapter seeing that Aaron has this whole other group of friends (and in the previous chapter in which he was playing basketball), well it looks like his whole "I thought you were different, I thought you wouldn't judge me" line which he used on Rory (and was probably the biggest reason I felt sorry for him), was well, just a load of bull. He doesn't really look that lonely without Rory, and he's still a jerk alot of the time.

 

I also agree whole heartedly that ultimatums are bad very bad, you should never have to choose between two people you care about, and those two people should understand that (Luke clearly does).

 

BTW C.A. what does your signiture say? It was too small and pale for me to make out.

Rory will end up with Seth (Seth's really jealous because he wants Rory paying attention to HIM instead of his ex).

 

Aaron and Luke will end up back together (Luke's still carrying a torch for him after all).

 

and because Dom's such a nice guy, no buses will be harmed in the writing of this story...

 

NOOOOOOOOOO! Surely we can find someone more suitable for Seth (Is chey seeing anyone? )

 

That said I'm afraid you're right. I have this horrible feeling Seth and Rory WILL end up together. YUCK! But maybe I"m just seeing Seth 100% from Rory's POV right now. Perhaps he has some redeeming qualities or something (No sign of them yet, but you never know).

 

As for Aaron and Luke ending up together, well if that happened, it would almost be worth poor Rory getting stuck with Seth. I've said from the beginning I'd rather see Aaron and Luke together than Rory with either of them. I think Luke could pull off a successful redemption of Aaron. Perhaps Aaron's problems stem from his bitterness and guilt over how everything went down with Luke, maybe if Luke forgave him, he could finally move on and put his problems and issues behind him. I don't really like him anymore seeing him in action with Rory, and NOT as an isolated victim, but I still think he's got potential to be a good person. I have seen some redeeming qualities in Aaron, I'm still waiting with Seth. Anyway I also agree that Luke probably still has feeling for Aaron. He doesn't seem like the kinda person who would just quit caring about someone, and perhaps the only reason he's still mad is that he DOES still care.

 

Anyway I guess I want to see either Luke and Rory end up together, or Luke and Aaron. I keep going back and forth on which I'd prefer, for Rory's sake I want Rory with him, for Aaron's sake Aaron lol. If Aaron and Luke, then I hope Rory and Luke keep that "brotherly" thing going. If Luke and Rory, then I hope somehow Aaron and Luke can reconcile.

 

I hate the idea of Seth and Rory, but think it's going to happen. The idea of Seth and Aaron isn't quite as bad, since I'm not as fond of Aaron anymore, maybe they "deserve" each other, but I still think Aaron deserves another chance, and can "turn his life around". LOL the worst would be for Aaron and Rory to stay together and for Luke and Seth to somehow get together, that would just be torture :wacko:

 

Anyway sorry I rambled on so much, I haven't really posted my opinions on DD much lately. Take care everyone and have a great day!

 

AFriendlyFace (Kevin)

Edited December 8, 2005 by AFriendlyFace