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[clochette]

1 hour ago, Headstall said:

No beetles... my research says it's from not being pollinated properly... not enough grains of pollen... and it's common with zucchini.  

Maybe try handpollinate them. Some might be bi but when the survival on the specie is endangered you gotta do what you gotta do 🤷🏻‍♀️

[clochette]

26 minutes ago, dughlas said:

As you might recall Clo had that issue last year and forced her gay zucchini to mate ...

 Because the raised bed wasn't big enough for the roots  

[dughlas]

1 minute ago, Headstall said:

I do water the peppers daily because they are in buckets. I water all them daily... if I don't the tomatoes droop. The peppers look healthy... my daughter says they take longer in her experience. I thought I might have been overwatering the zucchini, but letting them dry out completely, seemed to make matters worse. I at least got one good zucchini (big enough to make clo happy ) , but I think I'm done with them after this experience.

Did you check for blossom end rot? It most common in tomatoes but effects zukes too. That's an issue with inconsistent watering. Zukes need roughly an inch of water a week if planted in the ground if potted you want to maintain a consistent moisture level.

Do the wilting leaves look like they have talcum powder dusted on them? That's a sign of powdery mildew. Not usually a serious problem but if wide spread on a plant can effect fruiting because it inhibits photosynthesis. 

That's about all I can think of. 

[Marty]

I've finally found out what these zucchinis are that you lot keep going on about.

We call them courgettes this side of the pond.  

[dughlas]

Just now, Marty said:

I've finally found out what these zucchinis are that you lot keep going on about.

We call them courgettes this side of the pond.  

Are they also called marrow or is that something else?

[dughlas]

Just now, clochette said:

 Because the raised bed wasn't big enough for the roots  

Oh so they just needed a bigger bed to make babies.

[clochette]

24 minutes ago, Headstall said:

Thanks, dugh. The vines aren't wilting, and I'm getting healthy new leaves, but the fruit keeps turning yellow from the end before shriveling up. I've about given up on them. Apparently, bees are down this year... my daughter did some research too. My peppers aren't showing fruit yet, but two of my tomatoes have fruit, and another one has one beginning.

I've found bees, bumblebees and even dragonflies dying or already dead on the terrace and in the pots

[Headstall]

3 minutes ago, dughlas said:

Did you check for blossom end rot? It most common in tomatoes but effects zukes too. That's an issue with inconsistent watering. Zukes need roughly an inch of water a week if planted in the ground if potted you want to maintain a consistent moisture level.

Do the wilting leaves look like they have talcum powder dusted on them? That's a sign of powdery mildew. Not usually a serious problem but if wide spread on a plant can effect fruiting because it inhibits photosynthesis. 

That's about all I can think of. 

Thanks. My daughter had that a couple of years ago, and she saw my plants on Saturday... says the bit of white is not like what she had. I really think it is pollination related. There is a lot of info and complaints about it online.  

[Headstall]

7 minutes ago, clochette said:

 Because the raised bed wasn't big enough for the roots  

Maybe my five gallon buckets aren't big enough...

[Marty]

I think marrows are fatter than courgettes...

But I think they are all really just varieties of squash.

[dughlas]

Just now, Marty said:

I think marrows are fatter than courgettes...

But I think they are all really just varieties of squash.

I think from what I've read it's a matter of fruit size. Those picked as smaller fruit are courgettes and large fruit are marrows.

[Marty]

4 minutes ago, dughlas said:

I think from what I've read it's a matter of fruit size. Those picked as smaller fruit are courgettes and large fruit are marrows.

I'm not really all that fond of courgettes or marrows (not saying I actually dislike them), so they're not a vegetable I've ever bothered growing. I've a friend who grows them every year. She lives about 15 miles or so (25 km) from me, but I'll ask her how hers are doing this year next time I see her.

[Headstall]

I found a dead kitten in my barn aisleway two days ago. It was really sad. It was perfectly healthy looking, and at least two week or three weeks old... I buried it. I just found another one alive and wandering around my garage, it's eyes not open yet. It is robust, and a soft grey and orange, very much like the the one I found dead... I was worried, but put it in the barn aisleway and took Cookie for a walk. One cat was watching me and jumped down to the kitten when I left the barn... I could see through the glass storm door. Anyway, when I came back the kitten was gone. Its mother must have moved it, thank god.  

[Drew Espinosa]

21 hours ago, dughlas said:

I think @Drew Espinosais busy dodging spiders so you should be safe.

You'll meet the same fate as that spider, Sexy.  

[clochette]

2 hours ago, Marty said:

I've finally found out what these zucchinis are that you lot keep going on about.

We call them courgettes this side of the pond.  

That's the French name too 

[Marty]

7 minutes ago, Drew Espinosa said:

You'll meet the same fate as that spider, Sexy.  

Hi Drewpidoo.

Long time, no see.

[Marty]

7 minutes ago, clochette said:

That's the French name too 

Yeah...

The "-ette" bit at the end made me suspect that.

Think it's used as a diminutive. Like "cigarette" meaning "small cigar".

Makes me wonder if you have a French word "courge" - being the bigger (or normal) sized courgette...

[Edit] Oh! Google translate tells me you do. And it means "squash" - but not the same squash as the french word "écraser" - which apparently means "to crush" (I learn something new every day )

Edited July 13, 2020 by Marty

[clochette]

2 hours ago, Headstall said:

Maybe my five gallon buckets aren't big enough...

Mine are about 30cm high and 85x45cm on the sides. And there were 2 plants in it. Maybe just one plant would have worked. Those at grandma's, directly in the ground did beautifully and same this year (she's picked her first 2 weeks ago)

[clochette]

3 minutes ago, Marty said:

Yeah...

The "-ette" bit at the end made me suspect that.

Think it's used as a diminutive. Like "cigarette" meaning "small cigar".

Makes me wonder if you have a French word "courge" - being the bigger (or normal) sized courgette...

 

Yup. "ette" at the end of some words is to mean it's small, cute... like fillette (little girl),  maisonnette (a cute little house)...

"courge" is the squash family (zucchini, pumpkin... the lot)

Edited July 13, 2020 by clochette

[Marty]

1 hour ago, Headstall said:

I found a dead kitten in my barn aisleway two days ago. It was really sad. It was perfectly healthy looking, and at least two week or three weeks old... I buried it. I just found another one alive and wandering around my garage, it's eyes not open yet. It is robust, and a soft grey and orange, very much like the the one I found dead... I was worried, but put it in the barn aisleway and took Cookie for a walk. One cat was watching me and jumped down to the kitten when I left the barn... I could see through the glass storm door. Anyway, when I came back the kitten was gone. Its mother must have moved it, thank god.  

When I first moved to Ireland, and kept a few livestock, my old neighbour once told me, when I was upset about a lamb that had died at birth: "The only sure way of never losing any of your livestock is never to have livestock in the first place."

[Marty]

1 minute ago, clochette said:

Yup. "ette" at the end of some words is to mean it's small, cute... like fillette (little girl),  maisonnette (a cute little house)...

So what you are basically telling me is that you're a cute little cloche.

A cloche in English (probably derived from Norman French) is a glass or plastic cover, normally used to protect seedlings from frost. I think I remember that, originally, a cloche was a glass bell with no base. And, thinking more about it, I seem to remember from my school French that "cloche" is the french word for "bell". Which may explain why Gary (I think) sometimes calls you Tinkerbell...

 

Ain't language wonderful!  

[Page Scrawler]

54 minutes ago, Drew Espinosa said:

You'll meet the same fate as that spider, Sexy.  

Hey, Drewberry Pi!         How are you faring?

 

39 minutes ago, clochette said:

Mine are about 30cm high and 85x45cm on the sides. And there were 2 plants in it. Maybe just one plant would have worked. Those at grandma's, directly in the ground did beautifully and same this year (she's picked her first 2 weeks ago)

The radishes, basil, and chives are all doing well this year. The sage has struggled in past years, but it seriously exploded this year. It even has little purple flowers on top of the stems! Oh, and the tomatoes are really flourishing as well. The weather has been hot, and I've had to water some plants twice a day to keep the soil from drying out.

[clochette]

37 minutes ago, Marty said:

So what you are basically telling me is that you're a cute little cloche.

A cloche in English (probably derived from Norman French) is a glass or plastic cover, normally used to protect seedlings from frost. I think I remember that, originally, a cloche was a glass bell with no base. And, thinking more about it, I seem to remember from my school French that "cloche" is the french word for "bell". Which may explain why Gary (I think) sometimes calls you Tinkerbell...

 

Ain't language wonderful!  

Yup, all this is correct. Though calling someone a cloche isn't really a compliment  it's a synonym of clumsy, incompetent... same for calling someone a "cruche" (a earthen pitch) as both are hollow, empty.

[clochette]

Me and the brother went to the Italian restaurant for dinner. It was delicious. I had a pizza with prosciutto crudo. I was so full I didn't have room for dessert! 

[Marty]

3 minutes ago, clochette said:

Yup, all this is correct. Though calling someone a cloche isn't really a compliment  it's a synonym of clumsy, incompetent... same for calling someone a "cruche" (a earthen pitch) as both are hollow, empty.

Reminds me of one of my teachers from primary school. He would often tap us on the top of the head and then say "Empty vessels make most sound," suggesting we had no brains inside our skulls. (He never physically hurt us when he tapped our heads, nor did he do it in a nasty way.)