[DomLuka] TOSOM - Ch. 2

[LittleBuddhaTW]

First things first ... Chapter 2 was fantastic!

 

I still think Oliver and David are probably the same person (multiple-personalities), but there seems to be much more going on than just that, specifically when it comes to Oliver/David's parents. There is definitely something fishy going on there. And why can't Oliver go into town? Is it just because of the MPD, or is there something else "supernatural" about him that freaks people out? Maybe that's why the witch threw the rock at him ... she could *sense* something about him ... something powerful.

 

Also, interesting that the sexuality thing hasn't even been mentioned yet (I don't think), except for the subtle innuendos from David about how much Oliver would like Frank.

 

Anyway, great chapter Dom! Can't wait to read more!

[abc]

First things first ... Chapter 2 was fantastic!

Couldn't agree more

 

I still think Oliver and David are probably the same person (multiple-personalities), but there seems to be much more going on than just that, specifically when it comes to Oliver/David's parents. There is definitely something fishy going on there. And why can't Oliver go into town? Is it just because of the MPD, or is there something else "supernatural" about him that freaks people out? Maybe that's why the witch threw the rock at him ... she could *sense* something about him ... something powerful.

I wouldn't go that far. However, as much as David seems to cause pain (decapitated cat, if he really was responsible), Olivier wants to take it away - simple act of hugging Frank. Or the chicken ;-)

 

I wonder if David's 'experiments' with animals were the reason for Ms. Grover's hostile behaviour.

 

Also, did you notice this fragment?

Oliver laughed, but then his expression turned rueful. “Jeremy’s not the only one, you know. Around here, people think I’m not right. They’ll tell you not to be my friend, Frank... you won’t listen to them, will you?”

 

Frank nearly laughed out loud when something in Oliver’s expression promised retribution for the wrong answer, but instead he just smiled and shook his head.

Was that David poking his head? Or am I reading to much into this? Edited July 23, 2006 by abc

[Narcidius]

 

Amazing! *applause*

 

I loved it, loved it, loved it!

 

So far, the theory of multi-personalities hasn'e been shattered. But of course, we can't all conclude that it is a fact as of yet, we might just be shocked.

 

Great work Dom!!! Amazing!

 

-Lawrence

[MikeL]

Another great story, Dom.

 

The intro is an attention-getter...the prospect that Frank's loved ones are in danger.

 

Red Hot Chili Peppers! OK.

 

Dog crates? Huh?

[Merkin]

If we're leaning toward thinking that Oliver and David are facets of a multiple personality, then what if Oliver is gay but David is straight? The evidence so far seems to bear that out...

Best wishes, Merkin

[Conner]

Ok, so this chapter didn't end with one of Dom's typical cliffhangers. However, I would like to suggest that where an author ends a chapter with more than 250 outstanding questions and/or unresolved issues, that that constitutes a cliffhanger!!! Way to go, Dom!

 

I'm convinced that Oliver and David are the same person. And, yes, it appears that David does unseemly things to cats. I knew I liked him from the start. It certainly would explain the rock thrown at Oliver's head as suggested by abc.

 

So what role exactly does David play in Oliver's psyche? The primary role seems to be "protector". I think it's obvious that David likely plays other roles as well...like taking revenge on an unfair "community" which, I should add, would include Oliver's parents. I'm concerned that David will at some point take over completely. Hopefully, that's where Frank comes in.

 

Has anyone ever petted a chicken? A goat, yes, but a chicken? :wacko:

 

Hugs,

Conner

[Narcidius]

I've petted a chicken!

 

That's before he tried to kill me of course.

[Matthew]

So what role exactly does David play in Oliver's psyche? The primary role seems to be "protector". I think it's obvious that David likely plays other roles as well...like taking revenge on an unfair "community" which, I should add, would include Oliver's parents. I'm concerned that David will at some point take over completely. Hopefully, that's where Frank comes in.

 

 

But David's protecting him from enemies David creates, it seems to me. It seems logical that it would have been David who did that to the guy's dog. And I'm sorry, but I don't find it unreasonable to find out that someone with this disorder tourtured your dog and respond by threatening both personalities if they come back.

[tyguy0268]

Hmmm......this seems to be like a gay themed story version of the psycho-thriller movie "Hide and Seek".

[Matthew]

Hmmm......this seems to be like a gay themed story version of the psycho-thriller movie "Hide and Seek".

 

Or "Secret Window"

 

That really irritated me! Those two movies came out in back to back years, and they were basically the same movie.

 

Back on topic: Perhaps Dom is the new, improved (gay) Stephen King?

Edited July 23, 2006 by Matthew

[Ibuprofen]

Has anyone ever petted a chicken? A goat, yes, but a chicken? :wacko:

 

You can pet birds as long as THEY want to be petted, infact, I am doing it right now, not a chicken but it still counts.

 

Whenever I hear the name Frank I automatically think of Donie Darco, so I wouldn't be suprised if somewhere in one of those boxes is a rabbit suit, or at least a mask from Halloween.

 

I am loving this story, its great so far and it can only get better. I have to agree with everyone else, I think Oliver and David are the same person too.

Edited July 24, 2006 by Ibuprofen

[Gearoid]

[quote name='Ibuprofen' date='July

I am loving this story, its great so far and it can only get better. I have to agree with everyone else, I think Oliver and David are the same person too.

 

Of course I am delighted a new story is up. But this is sooo dark. I didn't think of the multiple personality thing at all, but it is very plausible.

 

I feel I have to say though that the mentally ill have all my sympathy. In fiction they become a metaphor for the fears and desires of the author and the audience. That of course is legitimate, but always one thinks of the emprically real mentally people outside the metaphor of the fiction, and they suffer because of their representation.

 

They are even more scorned than we gays.

 

Gearoid

[Alan]

Wow. Two chapters and I'm back to spending my life wondering when Dom will post the next. The writing flows beautifully and Dom should abandon any concerns about writing in third person, he does it very. Very well.

 

I almost missed the MPD the first time I read chapter 1. It makes this story many times darker than anything Dom's written before. MPD's main cause is abuse/neglect and that has to raise questions about Oliver's parents, especially when the David personality is apparently the only one who ever gets punished. It's a really subtle piece of writing that Oliver's parents appear so different to Oliver and Frank.

 

Rewow.

Edited July 24, 2006 by Alan

[knotme]

Fascinating. I'm also reminded of Stephen King. So far, I see David as a sociopath, forcing Oliver into a lonely existence, dependent upon David as his only friend. David probably started the feud with the Flaskis clan. Will David be jealous of Frank? Is David capable of murder? If Frank can survive long enough to become a reliable close friend of Oliver, will David recede? Permanently? All these questions on just one level of the story. Some of you have exposed other lines of questions. Fascinating.

Edited July 24, 2006 by oahu

[Merkin]

Gearoid said: 'I feel I have to say though that the mentally ill have all my sympathy. In fiction they become a metaphor for the fears and desires of the author and the audience. That of course is legitimate, but always one thinks of the emprically real mentally people outside the metaphor of the fiction, and they suffer because of their representation.

 

They are even more scorned than we gays.'

 

In some jurisdictions gays are classed as "mentally ill" and receive the full force of that stigma as well as scorn for being gay. I applaud Dom for taking on this topic, and can't wait to see how he handles this exquisitely delicate subject. Frank as Hero is going to have quite a job on his hands.

[Altimexis]

If David tortures animals, then it's not unreasonable to think he may be responsible for drowning the "witch". Perhaps that's why Oliver/David's parents don't want him going into town - they don't want anyone getting any ideas. :wacko:

[wildone]

Dom, luving the story so far!!!

 

I once tried petting a chicken when I was eight, I still have the indent on the bridge of my nose where she got me with her beak I just might have to skip over any further chicken refrences as I'm as scared of them as Frank's mom is of spiders.

 

Personally, I don't think that Oliver and David are the same. If you know of any siblings of people who are considered "slow" or have downes, etc., you will see a totally different person around their family. They lose all selfishness and focus on making thier sibling feel equal.

 

Too bad the rest of us couldn't do the same.

[Conner]

If David tortures animals, then it's not unreasonable to think he may be responsible for drowning the "witch". Perhaps that's why Oliver/David's parents don't want him going into town - they don't want anyone getting any ideas. :wacko:

 

I think you might be on to something there. If her boat didn't have a moter, why would she have taken the boat out on the lake without the oars?

 

Hugs,

Conner

[Korbin81]

Hi, I'm not new to reading Dom's stories but this is my first time posting. I just had to have my say about TOSOM! I think that it has a weird Texas Chainsaw, Fight Club, Buffalo Bill "It puts the lotion on it's skin", kind of feel to it.

I like that!

I've read plenty of gay themed fiction, but I have yet to read one with a decent horror plot. Because this is Dom writing I'm confident that we will not be disappointed in the work's quality. Maybe horror isn't where Dom is heading, but it'd be an interesting wrought to take. Although, I'd be really surprised if David turned out to be real instead of Oliver's side personality, and the butchered cat floating in the water (plus the neighbor

[bodgy]

"My son is disturbed, and it might be a hazard to both your safety and his if you associated with him,"

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I don't quite agree here, first love can cause people to appear to behave in very strange ways to an outsider looking on.

 

If this is a small town and quite a religious one at that (just my impression of what a mid-western bible belt town of America would be like - I'm not American so this is just based on chat and films), it is possible that if David is his 'alta ego' and has caused problems that are seen by the community as anti social - that his parents reaction would be to hide him from as they see it harm. Another possibility is that when confronted with 'shame' or a situation that is hard to deal with, coping is by the use of denial of the facts - publicly.

 

As for the tone of voice, again I can see that for some mental conditions speaking in a firm voice as though talking to an errant toddler would be the only way to get through to them. I've worked with someone who was severly brain 'damaged' from a car accident, and whilst he made a reasonable recovery, in somethings he was very childlike in his approach and one automatically started explaining what should have been basic concepts in very firm no nonsense tone that'd be used with a very young child rather than a 21 yo.

 

So as yet I don't see anything strange in the protagonists behaviours. Just a thought - Oliver might actually be David - and Oliver is the character by which he lives his life.

 

All very intriguing.

 

bodgy

[Julian Alexander]

Dom i must say im getting hooked to this story. (ahem i still wont Bow to you yet like the rest of the masses, hehe) Can not wait for the next chapter, keep them coming.

 

As for the Donnie Darco refrence (finally someone else watched that movie):

 

Donnie: Why do you wear the stupid bunny suit?

 

Frank: Why do you wear that stupid human suit?

 

Thats is all, hehe.

 

Jules

[YouwithoutMe]

I also am a pretty quiet reader of Doms stories, but as one of the moderators of Don's yahoo group I am trying to change that! I am also started to really like this story but for a different reason than a lot of other people here it seems. I like reading stories that has a character different that what society considers attractive and different than the norm. I get tired of reading stories where everyone is blonde haired blue eyes and model types. that isn't real. There are always people out there that arent what society views as attractive, like me for instance, lol. How many times have you seen a model or porn pictures of someone missing their legs? I was born like this so it is normal for me, and thats why i like stories with non typical charaters, since I can relate more. Not that i can really relate to Oliver/David since i only have one personality, lol but it is the idea of someone different from the norm and different that what society views as ideal that i like and i'm starting to ramble and repeat myself so i'm gonna end this post now haha

 

JonP

[NaperVic]

I also am a pretty quiet reader of Doms stories, but as one of the moderators of Don's yahoo group I am trying to change that!

 

JonP

 

Welcome JonP to Domaholics. Since most of the 'chat' about Dom's stories has moved here, we're glad you came over. Just jump right in!!!

 

Take Care®,

 

Vic

[adblue]

I've read the story so far, and was intrigued. Normally, it wouldn't be my genre of choice, but I think Dom will do something interesting with it, and I like seeing something that busts out of the "gay story" expectations.

 

Dom has taken on some tough issues here: (1) physical and mental conditions, and (2) whether that makes a person ill or bad/evil, and (3) how "normal" people treat "disabled" people.

 

Do I think Oliver and David are two personalities of one person? Yes, I do, based on the transition between chapters 1 and 2.

 

Do I think Oliver/David is/are dangerous? Hmm. I would've said yes, but on further thought, I have a different theory.

 

Everyone has been so focused on Oliver/David that they've ignored the threats of punishment and isolating behaviors of both his parents. -- Oliver had an "accident." He may have a split or multiple personality, and that, as far as I know, is usually from some event(s) or abuse(s) that the person can't deal with.

 

I'm not convinced Oliver/David is the real villain. David might be just protecting Oliver, and David may know more about what's really going on. Yes, I might be wrong, and David might be the villain...or one of a few villains.

[Alan]

David really strikes me as the protective persona who turns up when something bad is about to happen to Oliver. David thinks of Oliver as the wanted son and himself as the unwanted. A lot of the bad somethings seem to involve Oliver's parents.

 

I don't exclude that there was once a real David who died in some way we don't yet know, possibly involving the Woman of the Cats on the other side of the lake. Oliver has a really strong reaction to her old house.

 

I may have to take bets on the first poster to argue the Woman of the Cats is actually Alice the Incomprehensible.