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Is it wrong that I really don't feel all that sorry for Will? He'd been warned more than once that he was playing in the Big Boy League when he didn't have the emotional maturity to handle it. I'm glad he got burned. I think the kid was getting way too big for his britches. I'm looking forward to Will being back in school and not hanging out with college boys or stripping in clubs.

 

I kinda would've thought that Tony would have called Will "thirteen"- I think that would have pissed him off even more, since Will is clearly trying to be twenty years old and likely considers himself the next age whenever he gets within 6 months of his next birthday.

 

All that said, I did like the way things were building before they had sex. I liked that Will was not Will the 13-Year Old Sexpot, but Will the goofy 9th grade kid who likes marine biology and riding on trolley cars. Will felt more like a believable character there than he was for most of this story.

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He'd been warned more than once that he was playing in the Big Boy League when he didn't have the emotional maturity to handle it. I'm glad he got burned.

Except, he wasn't the one that freaked out unreasonably. Tony was. Thirteen or thirty, no one likes the friend speech, or admitting they went after the wrong person. And Will's reaction to both of these things was pretty in line with anyone else I know.

 

Edit: The more I think about, the more restrained Will seems in his reaction. He managed to contain the drama between himself and Tony, and created niether scene nor conflict between Tony and the rest of the family. Thanks to Gathan and Kristin, it's possible no one picked up on it at all. I don't know that I would have been as reasonable had I woken up next to a guy I'd been quite obviously pursuing for a week and he accused me of rape. And Brad did not, at a similar age with less provocation, act as controlled.

 

If he demonstrated emotional immaturity, it was that he went after Tony at all. Someone should have pulled Will aside at some point and said, "Hey, the guy has enough on his plate without a barely teenage puppy humping his ankle. We'd sort of like to repair the family connection with him, and that might complicate things." Yeah, WIll should have figured that out on his own, but there his age and lack of experience is working against him.

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I thought the new chapter of PMS was very well written and very authentic. I do sort of feel sorry for Will in that I think Tony's reaction to what happened had more to do with the past than Will can understand. I think that Will's reaction to what Tony said was very authentic and probably wouldn't have been any different if he was thirty instead of thirteen. The only thing that really showed Will's immaturity was his outright refusal to even listen to what Tony wanted to say before he left, and that reaction isn't one that would have been just limited to someone his age probably.

 

You don't have to be young and immature to have bareback sex, just drunk or stoned and horny. You don't have to be young and immature to get your feelings hurt, you just have to care about what others think of you. I think that Tony's behaviour when he woke up was motivated more by his knowledge of Sam, his father's past. Wasn't Jake about thirteen or fourteen when he started this liason with Sam? I get the impression that for better or worse, Tony knows a lot more about his father's past that one would suspect. I think his reaction was motivated more by Will's age and his father's past than how disgusting he really thought it was.

 

I do agree with MethodWriter that Will needs to move past the stage that he believes every guy that he blows or that blows him, is the love of his life or soul mate. Although Will has been with four guys now, I am not counting that one in Paris, he is still relatively inexperienced. I agree it will be good for him to get back around some guys his own age and maturity level. Will has already indicated that a few of his friends are more on his level than that of the average 13/14 year old, and I think that is good as well.

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Very cool chapter, Chapter 40 is one of the more realistic ones.

 

And contrary to popular opinion (in the reviews) Tony doesn't have a problem at all, Tony is a completely normal guy. His actions are normal and understandable. Maybe someone who never struggled to figure out if they were gay, bi or straight doesn't get. Maybe someone who never did sexual activity that they they later thought better of while under the influence of alcohol doesn't get. But having gone through both of the above, I really get it. I suspect that what Tony wasn't able to explain because Will wouldn't let him, was that Tony finds it gross and disgusting that he just had sex with a 13 year old (isn't Will's birthday in Sept?).

 

As to Will, his immaturity shows. I am not blaming him for being immature, it is just a function of his age. As you get older and more mature you figure out to not to "go there" (I was going to use the phrase, "take advantage of") with someone who is that drunk because more time than not it doesn't come out well when the person sobers up. Will still has the young gay boys affliction of falling in love with every guy he has sex with and assuming they have the same level of affection back. He needs to come to understand the consequences of his actions too. When someones judgment is so badly impaired by alcohol, it is better to not go there or if you do go there, not be surprised when it turns out badly. That he will learn as he gets older.

 

One thing I don't get is Tony's "leaving". Isn't he going to Stanford? They acted as if he was heading back to St Louis or where ever he was from.

 

I also hope Will sticks to his epiphany that it might be okay to go back to being a 13, almost 14, year old 9th grader.

 

I am also not happy with Brad letting Will do shots of Jaeger. It is one thing to allow your young teen enjoy wine with you at dinner as you want to teach them precisely that alcohol is not about getting drunk, but about enjoying it for the taste in moderation, even for its relaxing properties. Letting him do shots is exactly the wrong way to teach him about responsible drinking. Where is Robbie in all this? Even Darius should know better.

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I agree that Tony doesn't have big problems. He did get drunk and caved in to his lust for Will . Will took the opportunity without the maturity to realize there could/would be regrets in the morning. Tony did dump his guilt on Will which made Will feel inadequate and caused him to question whether he was ready to run with the big dawgs which maybe was a good thing. Will's refusal to discuss things with Tony later was another aspect of his lack of maturity or empathy. Tony did violate his own moral code and surely has regrets. Will has no regrets, except that he got stung. In my review of the chapter I noted that in view of Will's ongoing slutty behavior, he could turn into a real slut if he doesn't make a conscious decision not to.

 

I also indicated this was not one of my favorite chapters. The reason is that each character failed to show any growth or increased self-awareness but seemed to plod on almost as expected. Of course life is like that, mostly plodding on. It will be interesting to see where Mark takes this next.

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I personally thought Tony acted quite normal... He freaked out when he realized he slept with a 14yr old... Of course he was going to get weirded out.

 

Yeah, WIll should have figured that out on his own, but there his age and lack of experience is working against him.

That and the fact that Will acts like a bitchy drama queen if someone tries to advise him w/o asking first..

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I would agree with all and sundry who have posted here claiming that Tony's reaction was "normal" IF the story involving them had stopped the moment Tony woke up and realised what he's done. Yep - freaking out because you have woken up with a significantly under age guy is normal. However the story didn't finsih there. Suddenly he wanted to explain himself to Will and not just once but several times. That is NOT the reaction that I'd call normal. At this point IMHO Will's reaction (good cry, realise it's not what you thought it was but it was a great one nighter, now piss off) seems to me to be far more mature than both his behaviour in previous chps and Tony's behaviour in this one.

 

I agree that his Dad/parents etc letting a 13/14 yo old do Jeager shots is, once again IMHO, a derelection of duty. Mind you anyone anytime doing Jeager shots is pretty icky. Never liked the stuff or its smell on others.... This however does fit in Brad's view of parenting as being "best buds".

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Very cool chapter, Chapter 40 is one of the more realistic ones.

 

And contrary to popular opinion (in the reviews) Tony doesn't have a problem at all, Tony is a completely normal guy. His actions are normal and understandable. Maybe someone who never struggled to figure out if they were gay, bi or straight doesn't get. Maybe someone who never did sexual activity that they they later thought better of while under the influence of alcohol doesn't get. But having gone through both of the above, I really get it. I suspect that what Tony wasn't able to explain because Will wouldn't let him, was that Tony finds it gross and disgusting that he just had sex with a 13 year old (isn't Will's birthday in Sept?).

 

As to Will, his immaturity shows. I am not blaming him for being immature, it is just a function of his age. As you get older and more mature you figure out to not to "go there" (I was going to use the phrase, "take advantage of") with someone who is that drunk because more time than not it doesn't come out well when the person sobers up. Will still has the young gay boys affliction of falling in love with every guy he has sex with and assuming they have the same level of affection back. He needs to come to understand the consequences of his actions too. When someones judgment is so badly impaired by alcohol, it is better to not go there or if you do go there, not be surprised when it turns out badly. That he will learn as he gets older.

 

One thing I don't get is Tony's "leaving". Isn't he going to Stanford? They acted as if he was heading back to St Louis or where ever he was from.

 

I also hope Will sticks to his epiphany that it might be okay to go back to being a 13, almost 14, year old 9th grader.

 

I am also not happy with Brad letting Will do shots of Jaeger. It is one thing to allow your young teen enjoy wine with you at dinner as you want to teach them precisely that alcohol is not about getting drunk, but about enjoying it for the taste in moderation, even for its relaxing properties. Letting him do shots is exactly the wrong way to teach him about responsible drinking. Where is Robbie in all this? Even Darius should know better.

 

Tony came out to try and get on the soccer team. He left his car and stuff in St. Louis, and is flying back out to get them and drive back. Stanford won't start until near the end of September (they're on quarters).

 

Brad was doing the shot of Jaeger, not Will. When Will did the shot, he was out on the patio with Gathan and Kristin. And being realistic, I don't see Darius as Will's cop. He'd be more likely to look on disapprovingly unless Will did something really stupid, then he'd intervene.

 

 

I agree that Tony doesn't have big problems. He did get drunk and caved in to his lust for Will . Will took the opportunity without the maturity to realize there could/would be regrets in the morning. Tony did dump his guilt on Will which made Will feel inadequate and caused him to question whether he was ready to run with the big dawgs which maybe was a good thing. Will's refusal to discuss things with Tony later was another aspect of his lack of maturity or empathy. Tony did violate his own moral code and surely has regrets. Will has no regrets, except that he got stung. In my review of the chapter I noted that in view of Will's ongoing slutty behavior, he could turn into a real slut if he doesn't make a conscious decision not to.

 

I also indicated this was not one of my favorite chapters. The reason is that each character failed to show any growth or increased self-awareness but seemed to plod on almost as expected. Of course life is like that, mostly plodding on. It will be interesting to see where Mark takes this next.

 

Ah, but people rarely change that fast. Epiphanies take time, and a few more chapters. Posted Image

 

I personally thought Tony acted quite normal... He freaked out when he realized he slept with a 14yr old... Of course he was going to get weirded out.

 

 

 

That and the fact that Will acts like a bitchy drama queen if someone tries to advise him w/o asking first..

 

Will is (almost) fourteen. I think "bitchy drama queen" is part of the job description for a fourteen year old male.

 

 

I would agree with all and sundry who have posted here claiming that Tony's reaction was "normal" IF the story involving them had stopped the moment Tony woke up and realised what he's done. Yep - freaking out because you have woken up with a significantly under age guy is normal. However the story didn't finsih there. Suddenly he wanted to explain himself to Will and not just once but several times. That is NOT the reaction that I'd call normal. At this point IMHO Will's reaction (good cry, realise it's not what you thought it was but it was a great one nighter, now piss off) seems to me to be far more mature than both his behaviour in previous chps and Tony's behaviour in this one.

 

I agree that his Dad/parents etc letting a 13/14 yo old do Jeager shots is, once again IMHO, a derelection of duty. Mind you anyone anytime doing Jeager shots is pretty icky. Never liked the stuff or its smell on others.... This however does fit in Brad's view of parenting as being "best buds".

 

You don't like Jaeger? Evidently I'm not as picky about what I drink.Posted ImagePosted Image

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You don't like Jaeger? Evidently I'm not as picky about what I drink.Posted ImagePosted Image

 

 

nope strictly sav blanc, champagne, gin, vodka, kinda guy! but then my guy picked me up with a beer... so presumably if you're cute enough i drink whatever you're drinking!

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okay, I get Tony now.

 

He's like one of them military guys that get drunk and then when a guy takes 'advantage' of them, they freak out in the morning... Then they get all friendly again when they get drunk again...:P

 

and yes some of us are picky on what we drink. :D

when I was younger, I bought MD 20/20 because it was cheap. Now I know better :P

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okay, I get Tony now.

 

He's like one of them military guys that get drunk and then when a guy takes 'advantage' of them, they freak out in the morning... Then they get all friendly again when they get drunk again...:P

 

and yes some of us are picky on what we drink. :D

when I was younger, I bought MD 20/20 because it was cheap. Now I know better :P

 

I think that's it, and I think with Tony he's also obviously attracted to guys, so it's a closet-case issue, tied in with his father's history. That's probably how he's manifesting all those internal conflicts.

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I think that's it, and I think with Tony he's also obviously attracted to guys, so it's a closet-case issue, tied in with his father's history. That's probably how he's manifesting all those internal conflicts.

 

One very interesting facet here that someone brought up is that Tony doesn't want to be like his father- i.e. he doesn't want to be the slutty scumbag who screwed around on his wife with a teenager. He probably thought it was gross and disgusting that Sam was having sex with his stepson's boyfriend. With that experience, I think Tony would have a disdain of middle-aged men getting with teenagers/people young enough to be their kids. So, by getting with Will, a boy who hasn't even celebrated his 14th birthday yet or attended his first day of 9th grade, Tony got uncomfortably close to what his father did with Jake back in 1980. Not on the same level, of course, but still something that violates his own sense of what's right and wrong. He felt guilty for it, and dumped it on Will.

 

And I really liked Blue's intrepretation that someone should have said to Will that Tony has enough issues to deal with- coming to terms with his father dying when he was 3, the circumstances/behavior that led to his dad's death, on top of the issues that anyone going off to college has to deal with- than needing to deal with a 13-year old boy who wants a relationship with him. I kinda hope someone calls him out on that. It might be beyond what a 14-year old guy can understand, but it wouldn't hurt to try. I do think without a doubt someone needs to say to Will, "Sex has consequences. Drinking has consequences. If you're old enough to do both of these things, then you are old to deal with what happens when the combination of both leads to some pretty bad situations."

 

Speaking of drinking, I HATED that Brad was doing shots in front of Will. I absolutely hated it. But that's mainly because my alcoholic father used to take me with him to bars(when my gambling addicted mother wasn't taking me to bingo halls), most likely. I get that Brad didn't actually do shots WITH Will, but still, the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth because of my own personal history. I get that Brad wants to be the buddy, and that pretending he doesn't drink to convince Will not to drink would be hypocritical, but getting sloshed in front of your own kid just doesn't seem like all that good of an example to make, especially when they still haven't hit driving age yet. There's a serious lack of boundaries between Brad and Will that I'm surprised hasn't caused any real problems yet.

 

I'm just glad JJ picked Jeanine as his parent, because...I don't know, I think his attitude would be worse if Brad "I Wanna Be the Buddy Not the Dad" was his primary caregiver.

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I do think without a doubt someone needs to say to Will, "Sex has consequences. Drinking has consequences. If you're old enough to do both of these things, then you are old to deal with what happens when the combination of both leads to some pretty bad situations."

 

Speaking of drinking, I HATED that Brad was doing shots in front of Will. I absolutely hated it.

 

I agree, but the lesson of mixing sex, drugs, and alcohol is a lesson we all learn but usually not until we are older, usually college. Tony also has not learned this lesson yet, well maybe now after the episode with Will? Sadly it is a lesson many forget even at older ages. This is reflected even in several of the other CAP stories. Just look at the story "Millennium" with Robbie, Brad, Cody, and Kevin after one of the Hollywood parties of Drugs and Alcohol. I think with this chapter we see the difference between Will's advanced physical maturity and thus wanting to be with the older crowd of guys (i.e Gathan, Berto, Tony) versus his mental and emotional maturity which is closer to his actual age.

 

As for Brad doing a shot in front of Brad. Since Will likes to be such a smart ass at times, I thought it would have been funny for him to have asked Brad if he planned on beating up anymore cars after a few more shots. Then he could have said "just joking" like Brad had said to him during their conversation about Will hanging out with College guys and in Strip Clubs. I can easily see Will or one of the boys reminding Brad of that somewhere in the future as a smart crack to their Dad.

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One very interesting facet here that someone brought up is that Tony doesn't want to be like his father- i.e. he doesn't want to be the slutty scumbag who screwed around on his wife with a teenager. He probably thought it was gross and disgusting that Sam was having sex with his stepson's boyfriend. With that experience, I think Tony would have a disdain of middle-aged men getting with teenagers/people young enough to be their kids. So, by getting with Will, a boy who hasn't even celebrated his 14th birthday yet or attended his first day of 9th grade, Tony got uncomfortably close to what his father did with Jake back in 1980. Not on the same level, of course, but still something that violates his own sense of what's right and wrong. He felt guilty for it, and dumped it on Will.

 

And I really liked Blue's intrepretation that someone should have said to Will that Tony has enough issues to deal with- coming to terms with his father dying when he was 3, the circumstances/behavior that led to his dad's death, on top of the issues that anyone going off to college has to deal with- than needing to deal with a 13-year old boy who wants a relationship with him. I kinda hope someone calls him out on that. It might be beyond what a 14-year old guy can understand, but it wouldn't hurt to try. I do think without a doubt someone needs to say to Will, "Sex has consequences. Drinking has consequences. If you're old enough to do both of these things, then you are old to deal with what happens when the combination of both leads to some pretty bad situations."

 

Speaking of drinking, I HATED that Brad was doing shots in front of Will. I absolutely hated it. But that's mainly because my alcoholic father used to take me with him to bars(when my gambling addicted mother wasn't taking me to bingo halls), most likely. I get that Brad didn't actually do shots WITH Will, but still, the whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth because of my own personal history. I get that Brad wants to be the buddy, and that pretending he doesn't drink to convince Will not to drink would be hypocritical, but getting sloshed in front of your own kid just doesn't seem like all that good of an example to make, especially when they still haven't hit driving age yet. There's a serious lack of boundaries between Brad and Will that I'm surprised hasn't caused any real problems yet.

 

I'm just glad JJ picked Jeanine as his parent, because...I don't know, I think his attitude would be worse if Brad "I Wanna Be the Buddy Not the Dad" was his primary caregiver.

 

Alright, I get your perspective on this, but really? Brad can't do shots in front of Will? Really? Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I suppose a beer is out of the question too? You sound like those stupid f**ks in the Moral Majority.

 

Wow.

 

Just Wow.

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That and the fact that Will acts like a bitchy drama queen if someone tries to advise him w/o asking first..

 

I was thinking less "advice" and more "Look you little shit. You want to be treated like an adult? This is your chance to act like one." He'd inevitibly fail, and they could use that failure to prune back his ego for years.

 

When it comes to manipulating the hearts and minds of others, there ain't no virgins in this family.

 

Alright, I get your perspective on this, but really? Brad can't do shots in front of Will? Really? Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I suppose a beer is out of the question too? You sound like those stupid f**ks in the Moral Majority.

 

Wow.

 

Just Wow.

 

I agree. What kind of example is Brad setting here? He should be demonstrating a fondness for good alcohol, not head-slamming swill. How else is Will going to impress the next college senior he attempts to seduce?

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Alright, I get your perspective on this, but really? Brad can't do shots in front of Will? Really? Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I suppose a beer is out of the question too? You sound like those stupid f**ks in the Moral Majority.

 

Wow.

 

Just Wow.

 

Well of course! Because NO ONE parents' EVER made out, kissed, held hands, drank, did a shot or ever did anything that even remotely showed emotions/love/likeness towards one and another when the kids are around right?

 

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And I hate the new website

 

:P

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This story is total crap.

 

One example, Arbour, you gave Will a big dick and called it maturity - at 13 years old no less.

 

It seems to me there's nothing you can't justify. That really works when you're the puppeteer.

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This story is total crap.

 

One example, Arbour, you gave Will a big dick and called it maturity - at 13 years old no less.

 

It seems to me there's nothing you can't justify. That really works when you're the puppeteer.

 

Uh. Ok. Posted Image

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Uh. Ok. Posted Image

 

You've just proven my point. Is the best you can do is a cavalier remark? Where the hell is the adult supervision in this story? The adults appear when it's convenient. When they do appear, they look stupid. Not only that, the adults are used as an excuse for the teenagers' behaviour. When a comment is made that Will is slutty, you respond that Stef is his uncle. Like that explains everything. Robbie is portrayed as an anxiety ridden idiot in this story. Even his kids talk to him with disdain - with some sort of begrudged tolerance. Your teenagers have become masters of their own universe.

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You've just proven my point. Is the best you can do is a cavalier remark? Where the hell is the adult supervision in this story? The adults appear when it's convenient. When they do appear, they look stupid. Not only that, the adults are used as an excuse for the teenagers' behaviour. When a comment is made that Will is slutty, you respond that Stef is his uncle. Like that explains everything. Robbie is portrayed as an anxiety ridden idiot in this story. Even his kids talk to him with disdain - with some sort of begrudged tolerance. Your teenagers have become masters of their own universe.

 

OK Connor, it's a story, fiction, and believe it or not, some families really are slightly dysfunctional and not very "normal". By the way, you forgot to mention how disrepectful Will is to his mom. While I may not like everything I read about in the entire CAP series, it is by far the best at GA, so now that you got on your soapbox, give it a rest and go back to be being the laid back Canadian.

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Nice to see you back Conner, I seemed to have missed you.....

I agree that this is a truly disfunctional family and that for all their money and flash cars, parenting skills are seriously missing. I think I have mentioned elsewhere that the tensions in this family are bizarre - I have no idea why it hangs together, but then as Daddydavek mentioned - its fiction and so I take it all with a grain of salt and read it for the fun of it!!

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You've just proven my point. Is the best you can do is a cavalier remark? Where the hell is the adult supervision in this story? The adults appear when it's convenient. When they do appear, they look stupid. Not only that, the adults are used as an excuse for the teenagers' behaviour. When a comment is made that Will is slutty, you respond that Stef is his uncle. Like that explains everything. Robbie is portrayed as an anxiety ridden idiot in this story. Even his kids talk to him with disdain - with some sort of begrudged tolerance. Your teenagers have become masters of their own universe.

 

Connor,

 

I just figured you were having a bad evening, or maybe you drank too much, and was going to blow the whole thing off. The comments were pretty out of character for you.

 

Most of what you post here actually seems pretty accurate. Adults appear when it's convenient because it's a story, and if I had them appear all of the time, it would get rather long. If they appear stupid, that's probably spot on, since we're seeing things from a 13/14 year old perspective. Most adults look like idiots to kids that age. Similarly, it's entirely reasonable that the teenage psyche would blame adults for their problems. Try raising one of these demons.

 

I pointed out that Will is Stefan's grandson (not nephew) because I assume he's bound to inherit some of the traits of one of his favorite people. Whether he will emulate Stefan's free love attitude remains to be seen, but my guess is that he won't. Right now, he's just trying to figure things out.

 

But what really shocks me is how you perceive Robbie has been treated. I think Will has shown a lot of affection and understanding toward Robbie, and actually seemed to develop a much bigger appreciation for Robbie and his relationship with his father. I think of the conversation they had in Hawaii, where Will tried to prop him up, or at the restaurant in LA after he got back from Europe....there's really no question that the guys really do love him.

 

Teenagers as masters of their own universe: They usually think they are.

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But what really shocks me is how you perceive Robbie has been treated. I think Will has shown a lot of affection and understanding toward Robbie, and actually seemed to develop a much bigger appreciation for Robbie and his relationship with his father. I think of the conversation they had in Hawaii, where Will tried to prop him up, or at the restaurant in LA after he got back from Europe....there's really no question that the guys really do love him.

 

 

Honestly I can see were Connor is coming from about Robbie. He has constantly been belittled throughout the story by numerous family members as weak and a whining unstable person. He is so unstable that he needs a 13 year old to try to prop him up (But I did enjoy the Will/Robbie conversation at the restaurant). Even Gathan refers to Robbie as a drama queen and a few other negative descriptions. Look back at how Robbie is portrayed before and during the trip to Paris and the family comments to/about him. Then how he is portrayed during and immediately after the kidnapping and any other major event in this story. The only positive comments about him throughout the story seems to be how everyone likes to be hugged by him. I realize the story is being narrated through the eyes of 13 and 18 year old teenagers but both Robbie and Brad's characters have taken major hits in this story.

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I realize the story is being narrated through the eyes of 13 and 18 year old teenagers but both Robbie and Brad's characters have taken major hits in this story.

 

I gotta agree with you about that. Brad's inability to control and disclipline his own son really doesn't reflect well on him. I can't see Claire or Jack ever putting up with half of the b.s. that Will does with their own kids. You know for damn sure that if John ever tried to speak to Claire the way Will's spoken to Jeanine, he would be a ripped a new one.

 

I get that indulgent parenting exists and is actually very common for this generation of people, but still, I think Brad's character has taken major hits because it's harder to respect a parent who never taught his kid the word "no".

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Some of you may have noticed that I changed "Poor Man's Son" status from "in process" to "on hold."

 

I'm at a point in my life where I'm hellatiously busy, and have precious little spare time as it is. I've been struggling with how to end PMS, and that's made the last few chapters difficult. And quite frankly, I'm simply not motivated to work on it right now.

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