Poor Man's Son

[Tiger]

Honestly, I don't like the idea of Cody having a kid. He's basically a playboy. It's not a bad thing. It just means he's not the parenting kind.

[methodwriter85]

Agreed. Marcel explicitly stated he doesn't like kids, and he didn't have them. Lou doesn't come off as someone who would have kids, either.

 

Max and Tim seriously come off as the parental type, though. I'd kinda like for Claire to serve as a surrogate. I could see her doing something that cool. I also can't see Max and especially not Tim having sex with a woman to get her pregnant. I strictly see them doing the surrogacy method. IVF was defnitely around in 2000.

[methodwriter85]

Hey, something I was wondering about. Would a surfer/skater kid like Will wear Abercrombie & Fitch every now and then, or would he have just basically stuck to PacSun stuff like Quiksilver and DC? My instinct would say no, because the skater kids I knew avoided preppy clothing like the plague, and were anti-Abercrombie. I see Will as a guy who will wear a suit and tie when necessary, but avoids preppy stuff like A&F for casual wear. I see him more likely wearing fitted plaid shirts and Dickies with a pair of Etnies, not a guy who wears Abercrombie polos, shorts, and flip-flops.

 

But I could be wrong, and I thought I'd bring that up for discussion. My experience in high school was that someone generally stuck to a certain look and certain brands, as brand-name labels were HUGE in this era. I didn't see skater kids dress preppy, and I never saw preppy A&F boys dressed skater. Tommy didn't mention Abercrombie being a popular brand at Malibu High, either.

 

My guess would be that Will shops at PacSun, John shops at Abercrombie, JJ likes Urban Outfitters and Armani Exchange, Gathan dresses in baggy Tommy Hilfiger and Nautica, Wade shops Banana Republic, and Matt likes J. Crew, The Gap, and Abercrombie.

 

But I'm more than willing to be proven wrong here. Maybe SoCal kids are better about mixing up brands than East Coast kids? Am I wrong in my impression that Will would generally not wear Abercrombie?

[Tiger]

You're leaving out the Stef and Claire factors. They probably dress him after all. It all depends if they like it. Also, they're rich, so they're more likely wearing stuff like Prada, Armani, and Versace in addition to everything else.

[KYE]

April's Fools, Ok dude, good one, good one!

 

 

[Tommy_B]

My God you are evil.

[Tommy_B]

Hey, something I was wondering about. Would a surfer/skater kid like Will wear Abercrombie & Fitch every now and then, or would he have just basically stuck to PacSun stuff like Quiksilver and DC? My instinct would say no, because the skater kids I knew avoided preppy clothing like the plague, and were anti-Abercrombie. I see Will as a guy who will wear a suit and tie when necessary, but avoids preppy stuff like A&F for casual wear. I see him more likely wearing fitted plaid shirts and Dickies with a pair of Etnies, not a guy who wears Abercrombie polos, shorts, and flip-flops.

 

But I could be wrong, and I thought I'd bring that up for discussion. My experience in high school was that someone generally stuck to a certain look and certain brands, as brand-name labels were HUGE in this era. I didn't see skater kids dress preppy, and I never saw preppy A&F boys dressed skater. Tommy didn't mention Abercrombie being a popular brand at Malibu High, either.

 

My guess would be that Will shops at PacSun, John shops at Abercrombie, JJ likes Urban Outfitters and Armani Exchange, Gathan dresses in baggy Tommy Hilfiger and Nautica, Wade shops Banana Republic, and Matt likes J. Crew, The Gap, and Abercrombie.

 

But I'm more than willing to be proven wrong here. Maybe SoCal kids are better about mixing up brands than East Coast kids? Am I wrong in my impression that Will would generally not wear Abercrombie?

 

Will would never shop at PacSun, that is for wanna be Barneys. Will would get his clothes at Jay's Zuma, Becker, Malibu Surf Shack and other local surf shops up and down the coast wherever he and Brad happened to be surfing.

 

No self respecting local would ever go to a fake mall surf shop. He might buy his boxers at Gap or Banana Republic in the Cross Creek Center or Nordstrom or even Costco in Westlake Village, his Levi's at Levi's in Cross Creek, but that would be about it.

[Mark Arbour]

Will would never shop at PacSun, that is for wanna be Barneys. Will would get his clothes at Jay's Zuma, Becker, Malibu Surf Shack and other local surf shops up and down the coast wherever he and Brad happened to be surfing.

 

No self respecting local would ever go to a fake mall surf shop. He might buy his boxers at Gap or Banana Republic in the Cross Creek Center or Nordstrom or even Costco in Westlake Village, his Levi's at Levi's in Cross Creek, but that would be about it.

 

*sticks his tongue out at Jeremy and says neener-neener-neener*

 

Thanks Tommy.

 

[methodwriter85]

Well, he also didn't say that Will would wear Abercrombie, so we were both wrong. And he'd definitely would wear Volcom, DC, and Quiksilver. I was only wrong about where Will would buy his clothes, not what kind of clothes he'd wear. Abercrombie would not be on his general "to wear" list, I don't think. For John Hobart, yes, but not him.

 

As for JJ, I'm thinking DKNY, Urban Outfitters, and Armani Exchange. He'd also collect a lot of Louis Vuitton and Prada bags.

Edited April 2, 2011 by methodwriter85

[chedder]

Is it okay to say 'I hate you'? But in a very loving way? Good April Fool's joke. I had forgotten that it was today.

[Mark M]

GAWD!!! THAT WAS AWESOME! SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!!

[Daisy139]

The crashing plane didn't alert me to it yet (the second scene did though) - I figured, "yeah, happens every now and then, authors make it look like some really important characters are going to die but of course they miraculously survive..." So I sat there mentally watching the plane come down being totally calm and knowing that everyone would survive. Wow, I'm messed up

 

Nice one. Second person who tried to get it today and I fell for it again.

[One Cheap Suit]

Arbour rolled onto his stomach, tilting his head back in the sexiest pose. He shook his hair loose, letting his flaccid, white-gray mane flop against his cheek like a greasy pancake.

 

I wanted, right then, to f**k him right through the mattress. He was so goddamn cute in that red velvet smoking jacket and the leather thong.

 

"f**k me through the mattress, JP. F**k me right through the goddamn mattress". Jesus, the little bitch just can't get enough. Well, things are different, this time. I've got the pencil today.

 

"No, Mark. No, there are better things waiting for you. Would you like a drink to get started?"

 

"Do you have any of that sweet punch with the orange soda, rasberry vodka, and pop rocks? I really like those!"

 

As I turned to make him the fizzy equivalent of a pink taffeta dress - I mean jeez, the guy clearly has issues, here - the doorbell rang. I moved to open the door, just as she came through under her own steam.

 

"Where is that little bitch Arbour? I'm gonna peg God!" Brenda exclaimed, dropping her bible on the table. "And then we'll be doing some reading, won't we?"

[Tiger]

Some probably think my reaction was weird before. I kind of figured there was no way in hell that 3 characters would die. I was more shocked by the idea of Cody doing a 13 year old in the ass. That part I didn't even know was a joke. My apologies.

[rjo]

Mark. Mark Mark. You really love loving dangerously don't you? At first I thought it was a dream, then puzzled, finally JP's threat of sicking Tonto on you. That should put the fear of God in you. One person I would not want mad at me. Remember you like HAPPY Endings. Where do you live again? Just kidding.

[BeysJoshersLepton V2]

Ok that chapter + 5:36am + vodka does not make for safe reading you worried the life out of me!!!!!!!!!! I understand its April fools day but technically I read it on the 2nd, just not fair =D

[Mark Arbour]

Arbour rolled onto his stomach, tilting his head back in the sexiest pose. He shook his hair loose, letting his flaccid, white-gray mane flop against his cheek like a greasy pancake.

 

I wanted, right then, to f**k him right through the mattress. He was so goddamn cute in that red velvet smoking jacket and the leather thong.

 

"f**k me through the mattress, JP. F**k me right through the goddamn mattress". Jesus, the little bitch just can't get enough. Well, things are different, this time. I've got the pencil today.

 

"No, Mark. No, there are better things waiting for you. Would you like a drink to get started?"

 

"Do you have any of that sweet punch with the orange soda, rasberry vodka, and pop rocks? I really like those!"

 

As I turned to make him the fizzy equivalent of a pink taffeta dress - I mean jeez, the guy clearly has issues, here - the doorbell rang. I moved to open the door, just as she came through under her own steam.

 

"Where is that little bitch Arbour? I'm gonna peg God!" Brenda exclaimed, dropping her bible on the table. "And then we'll be doing some reading, won't we?"

 

 

Greasy pancake? You have this vision of me with Boris Yeltsin hair?

Still, that was pretty funny, and people like Brenda Hayes are about my worst nightmare.

 

Some probably think my reaction was weird before. I kind of figured there was no way in hell that 3 characters would die. I was more shocked by the idea of Cody doing a 13 year old in the ass. That part I didn't even know was a joke. My apologies.

 

You thought I'd have Cody and Will and John in a menage a trois as the way Will and John lose their virginity? Dude, you have got to stop getting high that early in the day.

 

Ok that chapter + 5:36am + vodka does not make for safe reading you worried the life out of me!!!!!!!!!! I understand its April fools day but technically I read it on the 2nd, just not fair =D

 

That's true, and I do apologize to my non-US readers for the probably localized "April Fool's Day" reference/chapter, and the fact that with time lags, who knows when you'll actually get to see it.

[mmike1969]

funny, I can't comment in the chapter review after I posted comments in a chapter.

 

but yeah, I aleady knew it was the April's fools chapter when you posted it since it contained about 4k less words then your usual chapters.

 

had you posted 5-6k words in the chapter, then I might of been worried

 

and yeah, I laughed my ass off when the plane crashes and Gathen saw the fireball.

[methodwriter85]

Here's what would have happened in my parody chapter...

 

1. Brad and Jack have sex, because their sons getting together make them realize all of the sexual tension they've had over the past twenty years. Just for the hell of it, Ace joins in.

 

2. We skip over to 2003, because I'm sick of doing music for the 1998-2000 era.

 

3. A now-senior Will and a junior John take each other to the Malibu High prom, and JJ winds up taking a guy and a girl. (Okay, this one could actually happen.)

 

4. Matt Carrswold drops out of of the Wharton School of Business to pursue his secret dream of becoming a mime in Paris. Wade gets sick in their Paris apartment and dies of consumption, but not before becoming a nightclub singer, entertaing people with his renditions of "Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend" and "Your Song".

 

5. Darius and Gathan have hot sex while Ella films it for a porn site called "Str8 Bait".

 

6. Jeff Hayes's spirit comes back for a day, and absolves JP Crampton of his guilt. Then they have ghost sex ala Grey's Anatomy.

 

7. Stephen Schluter comes back with Aaron Hayes, and it turned out that they DID fake deaths with one another. Because Stephen couldn't face Stefan, he hid in another hut while Aaron put on one hell of a performance. Stefan and Stephen have incest sex in order to heal their wounded lives.

 

8. Sam turns out to be alive...or...well...undead. You see, he became a vampire as his maker took pity on him while he was dying of AIDS. He's been living his vampire life in Miami, and because of a ring, he's able to walk in the sunlight. He's built a clan of vampires- usually a bunch of vamps who were teenagers when they were turned, and so he's become their "Dad" while they pretend to go to high school. His "son", we'll call him Ted, is a broody vampire with an addiction to hair gel. He looks 18 even though he's really 109 years old. One day, Ted run into Marie Hobart, who's spending spring break in Florida with some friends. Marie gets hassled by some guy at a club, and Ted uses his vampire strength to save her. It becomes love at first sight....

[Westie]

You know, what's really sick is that arbour hasnt even posted the real chapter six to make it up to us.... **hint**

[Mark Arbour]

You know, what's really sick is that arbour hasnt even posted the real chapter six to make it up to us.... **hint**

 

I'll post it...when it's done.

[methodwriter85]

Will would never shop at PacSun, that is for wanna be Barneys. Will would get his clothes at Jay's Zuma, Becker, Malibu Surf Shack and other local surf shops up and down the coast wherever he and Brad happened to be surfing.

 

No self respecting local would ever go to a fake mall surf shop. He might buy his boxers at Gap or Banana Republic in the Cross Creek Center or Nordstrom or even Costco in Westlake Village, his Levi's at Levi's in Cross Creek, but that would be about it.

 

So if Will won't shop PacSun, he would definitely never wear Abercrombie and Fitch or Hollister, right? I see that look more of the domain of John Hobart, and maybe JJ on days he's feeling casual and not feeling the DKNY/Urban Outffiters look.

 

I'm seeing him wearing stuff like Quiksilver, DC, Volcom, Etnies, etc. He'd also like Vintage concert tees layered over long-sleeved shirts. Anything I'm missing? Also, do they wear Dickies pants in CA, or is that more of an East Coast thing? I knew skater/punk guys who wore that look, but it might be more of an East Coast deal.

 

I'm kinda surprised Barney still means a derogatory thing. I figured "How I Met Your Mother" would have turned being a Barney into a cool thing.

[PrivateTim]

So if Will won't shop PacSun, he would definitely never wear Abercrombie and Fitch or Hollister, right? I see that look more of the domain of John Hobart, and maybe JJ on days he's feeling casual and not feeling the DKNY/Urban Outffiters look.

 

I'm seeing him wearing stuff like Quiksilver, DC, Volcom, Etnies, etc. He'd also like Vintage concert tees layered over long-sleeved shirts. Anything I'm missing? Also, do they wear Dickies pants in CA, or is that more of an East Coast thing? I knew skater/punk guys who wore that look, but it might be more of an East Coast deal.

 

I'm kinda surprised Barney still means a derogatory thing. I figured "How I Met Your Mother" would have turned being a Barney into a cool thing.

 

I don't think not shopping at PacSun means you wouldn't shop at A&F, Hollister or even Ralph Lauren. Tommy is saying a surfer kid in Malibu wouldn't shop at a phony surf shop and not all surfers/polo players dress alike. A lot of the surf/polo kids dress kind of preppy, but you also have your surf punks and surf grunge. Malibu High is laid back in its way, but it is still a high school that is status conscious. I am sure some people wear Dickies, but they aren't popular, more Levi's or khakis for long pants and knee length shorts of a variety of brands for shorts. Matrix, Rusty, Billabong, O'Neil, Hurley, Toe's On the Nose, Rip Curl and RVCA are the more common brands.

 

Hansen's Surf Shop at Swami's in San Diego has one of the best online stores so you can get an idea what the plaid 'dress' shirts look like. The flannels are great for winter, especially at the beach on the foggy mornings. Also given the giant pictures of hot guys in A&F and all the gay boys who work there, I can't imagine a gay teen Will's age not shopping there.

[methodwriter85]

I don't think not shopping at PacSun means you wouldn't shop at A&F, Hollister or even Ralph Lauren. Tommy is saying a surfer kid in Malibu wouldn't shop at a phony surf shop and not all surfers/polo players dress alike. A lot of the surf/polo kids dress kind of preppy, but you also have your surf punks and surf grunge. Malibu High is laid back in its way, but it is still a high school that is status conscious. I am sure some people wear Dickies, but they aren't popular, more Levi's or khakis for long pants and knee length shorts of a variety of brands for shorts. Matrix, Rusty, Billabong, O'Neil, Hurley, Toe's On the Nose, Rip Curl and RVCA are the more common brands.

 

Hansen's Surf Shop at Swami's in San Diego has one of the best online stores so you can get an idea what the plaid 'dress' shirts look like. The flannels are great for winter, especially at the beach on the foggy mornings. Also given the giant pictures of hot guys in A&F and all the gay boys who work there, I can't imagine a gay teen Will's age not shopping there.

 

Thanks for the input. I was going with Tommy's assertion there that the look was beach-grubby instead of preppy...that's why I figured Will would avoid preppy clothes and dress more skater, except on the days he needs to wear a suit. The videos I've seen of Malibu High students seemed to back up Tommy's "not preppy at all" assessment of the fashion there. And I was going with my own experience that skater/surf boys(cue Avril Lavigne) would never dress preppy, and preppy boys wouldn't dress skater. But I guess I should have asked the people from that area.

 

Do you agree with my DKNY/Urban Outfitters assessment for JJ? He kinda comes off as someone who would dress just a little too mature and chic for his age, as if to make up for being so short and looking so young. As for John, he does seem like a total Abercrombie Boy. In fact, I bet he looks just like an AF model named Colton Haynes...

 

 

Anyway, it's fascinating to learn about the different styles going on at different schools at the same time. At my school, the look was either hip-hop with stuff like Roccawear and Timbaland, or baggy Tommy Hilfiger/Nautica, or the AF/American Eagle stuff, or the skater punk look.

 

Oh, and I learned something that might be important to the story-

 

http://www.malibuhig...servicelearning

 

Malibu High School requires kids to do twenty hours of community service each year. I'm guessing JJ will get out those hours by teaching kids at the skating rink, while Will is going to work at the WeHo mission. Maybe the community service stuff will get JJ to act just a little less bitch?

Edited April 5, 2011 by methodwriter85

[B1ue]

I can't imagine JJ wearing anything that doesn't have a label. No mall clothes for that boy. But yeah, that's probably about the style you're shooting for.

 

Another point is that Will and JJ are less status conscious than Brad or Darius, and rich enough in their own rights and through their fathers that neither has anything to prove to anyone. If there were any two kids who might dress however the hell they wanted to, it would be them.

 

My memories may be hazy, but wasn't A&F selling the faux destroyed/wrinkled look in the early 2000s? I don't think Claire would let her child outside wearing somehting like that.