Gay TV, Movies, and Books

[Page Scrawler]

Until I Meet My Husband, by Ryousuke Nanasaki.

As @spike382 would be the first to point out, it sounds like the title of a BL story.

But, in fact, it's a memoir. Nanasaki-san is one of two men in Japan—the other being his husband—who were able to have a religious ceremony for their marriage, rather than a civil union at a courthouse.  

[spike382]

5 minutes ago, Page Scrawler said:

Until I Meet My Husband, by Ryousuke Nanasaki.

As @spike382 would be the first to point out, it sounds like the title of a BL story.

But, in fact, it's a memoir. Nanasaki-san is one of two men in Japan—the other being his husband—who were able to have a religious ceremony for their marriage, rather than a civil union at a courthouse.  

I missed the conversation, but that could be a Japanese BL.

Their country is more well known to have more diverse ages and subjects for their storylines. 

[Page Scrawler]

7 minutes ago, spike382 said:

I missed the conversation, but that could be a Japanese BL.

Their country is more well known to have more diverse ages and subjects for their storylines. 

It's a memoir. With a manga adaptation, interestingly enough. 

[Enoch]

This one is multiple parts on YouTube, but it's worth watching. It's named Until We Meet Again.

 

[spike382]

17 minutes ago, Enoch said:

This one is multiple parts on YouTube, but it's worth watching. It's named Until We Meet Again.

 

Now this is a classic Thai BL.  A lot of the leads actors are still going strong in the industry.  

Edited yesterday at 04:01 AM by spike382

[Zombie]

11 hours ago, spike382 said:

Now this is a classic Thai BL.  A lot of the leads actors are still going strong in the industry.  

sorry, I’m not into romanticising suicide

validating suicide

especially given the target audience - teens and young adults who are already in a high risk group

[spike382]

54 minutes ago, Zombie said:

sorry, I’m not into romanticising suicide

validating suicide

especially given the target audience - teens and young adults who are already in a high risk group

This series does not romanticize or validate suicide in any way.

In fact the Buddhist belief in karma is heavily emphasized in this series, the actions of the two main characters (good or bad)  in ending their lives as they do, in some ways negatively impacts their reborn selves.

[Zombie]

it is a romantic story

key plot point - death by suicide

[spike382]

3 minutes ago, Zombie said:

it is a romantic story

key plot point - death by suicide

Yes, and so is Romeo & Juliet.

[Zombie]

this isn’t Shakespeare - it is targeted at teens and young adults, likely watching alone
with a ‘happy ending’?

[spike382]

5 minutes ago, Zombie said:

this isn’t Shakespeare - it is targeted at teens and young adults, likely watching alone
with a ‘happy ending’?

The main characters are reincarnations of the people who committed suicide, it’s a fantasy story.

And Thai BL puts all the disclaimers they can on every BL series that the subject matter is not meant for younger audiences.  Just as the tv or movies get rated in other countries.

[Zombie]

7 minutes ago, spike382 said:

Thai BL puts all the disclaimers they can on every BL series that the subject matter is not meant for younger audiences.  Just as the tv or movies get rated in other countries

those controls aren’t in place here

[spike382]

12 minutes ago, Zombie said:

those controls aren’t in place here

There’s an age restriction on the linked video. 

[Zombie]

5 minutes ago, spike382 said:

There’s an age restriction on the linked video. 

yes, good point

I should have read the synopsis

it’s a difficult thing for me

[spike382]

6 minutes ago, Zombie said:

yes, good point

I should have read the synopsis

it’s a difficult thing for me

The series does not treat suicide lightly, and it is a very heavy and serious topic.  It’s unique among Thai BLs because of this topic.

And I understand, I had a hard time getting through the first episode when I watched it.

[Enoch]

2 hours ago, Zombie said:

sorry, I’m not into romanticising suicide

validating suicide

especially given the target audience - teens and young adults who are already in a high risk group

Just because you don't like the good acting and the emotional drama this movie provides doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. It's a good movie and tells a good tale. Very few people would find suicide an acceptable answer to any situation, yet it does unfortunately happen nearly every day.

Within the story it clearly makes the point that their actions affected many people who loved them. It actually could convince someone contemplating this action to realize that this irreversible act would cause loved ones unimaginable pain. In fact, the targeted audience — teens and young adults — are the very group that should see and hear the message of this movie: suicide is never the answer. It most certainly does not validate suicide; quite the opposite.

[Jason Rimbaud]

8 minutes ago, Enoch said:

ust because you don't like the good acting and the emotional drama this movie provides doesn't mean others can't enjoy it.

Im not sure that is how I would phrase it. Sometimes other people have gone through or dealt with things that we haven't personally experienced. Doesn't mean they don't like good acting, just means the story might hit a bit too close to home. 

Take me for an example, I don't like reading stories about younger characters, especially if things turn sexual. That's my own trauma rearing its head. Doesn't mean you can't write a good 13 year old love story, it means I can't comfortably enjoy it. 

I don't like BL stories, to long on angst and weird drama for me. But that doesn't mean I want them to stop being made. Its just not for me. 

 

[Enoch]

9 minutes ago, Jason Rimbaud said:

Im not sure that is how I would phrase it. Sometimes other people have gone through or dealt with things that we haven't personally experienced. Doesn't mean they don't like good acting, just means the story might hit a bit too close to home. 

Take me for an example, I don't like reading stories about younger characters, especially if things turn sexual. That's my own trauma rearing its head. Doesn't mean you can't write a good 13 year old love story, it means I can't comfortably enjoy it. 

I don't like BL stories, to long on angst and weird drama for me. But that doesn't mean I want them to stop being made. Its just not for me. 

 

Thanks, Jason — that’s fair. My intention wasn’t to dismiss anyone’s personal experiences or imply they “don’t like good acting.” I was responding to the idea that the series romanticizes or validates suicide, which I don’t believe it does.

I appreciate you pointing out how certain stories can hit close to home for different people. That’s absolutely true, and I respect that. My point was simply that the show’s message is the opposite of validation — it shows the pain and consequences clearly, and for some viewers that can be meaningful rather than harmful.

But I hear what you’re saying about tone, and I appreciate the perspective.

[spike382]

16 minutes ago, Jason Rimbaud said:

Im not sure that is how I would phrase it. Sometimes other people have gone through or dealt with things that we haven't personally experienced. Doesn't mean they don't like good acting, just means the story might hit a bit too close to home. 

Take me for an example, I don't like reading stories about younger characters, especially if things turn sexual. That's my own trauma rearing its head. Doesn't mean you can't write a good 13 year old love story, it means I can't comfortably enjoy it. 

I don't like BL stories, to long on angst and weird drama for me. But that doesn't mean I want them to stop being made. Its just not for me. 

 

I understand.

BLs met something I personally felt lacking in Western media.

I always say you may need the right sensibilities to get into them.

Even somewhat having these, I still struggled a lot with certain elements, many of which they are moving past.

But some things they just can’t seem to let go of, especially among the fandom.