[DomLuka] sex

[DavyReader]

My two cents' worth:

 

I'm bothered that people are writing to complain that there has been no sex, and that it should occur by chapter XXX at the latest. Ugh.

 

IMHO, it's your story, and that means you decide. If you want sex, put it in, if you don't, then don't.

 

As for my opinion on TOSOM, I think it's great, period, sex or no sex. But, I also think it shouldn't matter what I think. It's your story, tell it your way.

I think we should consider accepting that it's important to writers that people like their texts. After all, they might have to make a living of their writing.

[AFriendlyFace]

Hey Dom!

As it stands, there will be no sex in this story.

I don't think there ought to be. For one thing it's your story and you've basically said you don't think it should be there, so it shouldn't be there. However, I'd feel that regardless. I never expected any sex in this story. It just doesn't feel like that type of story.

 

That gif image is sooooo KEWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree! Very cool, Bao

 

Take care all and have a great day!

Kevin

[Jack727]

More often than not I skip over the sex parts.

 

Jack727

[writeincode]

Jack727 Posted September 6 2006, 02:10 PM

More often than not I skip over the sex parts.

 

Same! I'll read the first one and maybe some that involve a new relationship but usually I just skim and stop at the small, random bouts of conversation because in stories with excessive amounts of sex the quick dialogue usually sums it up.

[captainrick]

That would be kinda creepy...I'm not calling Oliver retarded or anything, but......

First post. forgive me if I screw this up.

 

Nicholas has a good point. I tend to like to know I'm going to wake up with the same person I went to sleep with. That would be too weird. And what if Oliver turns into David during the middle of the encounter. Really creepy, but the whole story is kinda creepy. Dom is unpredictable though. Remember how Rory in DD wound up falling for Seth, the guy he hated. Now we have Jeremy Flaskis the number one suspect in the photo caper. It might be kinda cool if Frank and Jeremy got together, but on to the most important part of the post.

 

Dom, the story is great, no, awesome, without the overt sex. The affection that Frank and Oliver have shown each other so far is sort of a tease, but I don't think more sex has to be there, at least not between these characters. In fact it could spoil it if Oliver is really as disturbed as he seems and couldn't handle it or obssessed over it or something.

[AFriendlyFace]

First post. forgive me if I screw this up.

 

Nicholas has a good point. I tend to like to know I'm going to wake up with the same person I went to sleep with. That would be too weird. And what if Oliver turns into David during the middle of the encounter. Really creepy, but the whole story is kinda creepy. Dom is unpredictable though. Remember how Rory in DD wound up falling for Seth, the guy he hated. Now we have Jeremy Flaskis the number one suspect in the photo caper. It might be kinda cool if Frank and Jeremy got together, but on to the most important part of the post.

 

Dom, the story is great, no, awesome, without the overt sex. The affection that Frank and Oliver have shown each other so far is sort of a tease, but I don't think more sex has to be there, at least not between these characters. In fact it could spoil it if Oliver is really as disturbed as he seems and couldn't handle it or obssessed over it or something.

Excellent points, Captain!

 

My opinion is that David emerges for a specific reason. Like if Oliver is upset or something. So I had thought that as long as everything was going well between Oliver and David it wouldn't happen. Of course you're right anything else could happen to cause David to emerge and that would be pretty weird!

 

Also welcome to GA! It's great to have you here; I look forward to seeing more from you!

 

Have an awesome day and take care everyone!

-Kevin

[Altimexis]

Same! I'll read the first one and maybe some that involve a new relationship but usually I just skim and stop at the small, random bouts of conversation because in stories with excessive amounts of sex the quick dialogue usually sums it up.

 

Make that 4. I too get turned off by gratuitous sex. Not that I don't enjoy sex, but I don't need a blow by blow description unless it really fits the story. If the story's good enough, I'll skim through the overdone sex scenes and if not, I'll go on to another story.

 

BTW, Dom, no one integrates sex into a story better than you do. Your descriptions of sex in TLW and TOU are so incredibly perfect - they fit the story and they are absolutely necessary to the plot. That in itself is the answer to your question. If the sex is absolutely necessary to the plot, then include it. If it adds something significant to the plot, then include it. If it just doesn't fit the plot, then don't. It's hard for me to see how sex would fit into TOSOM and so I say don't inlclude it. You can and perahps should allude to thoughts of sex, and might include a conversation or two about sex, but nothing more.

[glomph]

My opinion is that David emerges for a specific reason. Like if Oliver is upset or something.

 

Sort of like the Incredible Hulk. :nuke:

[pinkandtrash]

Well If I'm really honest I will say that one of the things that got me into Dom's work were the sex scenes.

I NEVER skip the sex scenes because they are obviously so well written (Hey, we're talking about Domluka here !!!) but also because they are so freaking HOT !!!

Of course I totally agree with everybody : it must be the author's choice, but I can't say that I won't be disappointed if there is no sex in this story.

First because Oliver has such a sweet approach of life that I would I've liked to see how it turned out.

Plus Franck and Oliver are 2 healthy teenagers and it seems to me that Franck isn't Oliver first boyfriend (and who could it be ? Jeremy maybe ???), so becoming intimate would be the next logical step.

Finally, I would love for this story to have a sex scene because it would amazing as usual.

God I hope I don't sound like a total pervert !!!

[writeincode]

Well If I'm really honest I will say that one of the things that got me into Dom's work were the sex scenes.

I NEVER skip the sex scenes because they are obviously so well written (Hey, we're talking about Domluka here !!!) but also because they are so freaking HOT !!!

Of course I totally agree with everybody : it must be the author's choice, but I can't say that I won't be disappointed if there is no sex in this story.

First because Oliver has such a sweet approach of life that I would I've liked to see how it turned out.

Plus Franck and Oliver are 2 healthy teenagers and it seems to me that Franck isn't Oliver first boyfriend (and who could it be ? Jeremy maybe ???), so becoming intimate would be the next logical step.

Finally, I would love for this story to have a sex scene because it would amazing as usual.

God I hope I don't sound like a total pervert !!!

 

I of course agree that Dom's sex scene's are "so freaking hot" but I definitely disagree with the implication that TOSOM needs sex. The reason why Dom's sex scenes have been so hot is because they have significance in the development of a character or relationship like the tent scene in TLW (which I have used to create many a Domaholic). Owen's complete cluelessness and the way that Dom positions the readers to question the nature of Aiden's intentions is what makes it effective.

 

Were Oliver and Frank to get it on it may seem kind of out of place and not emotionally suspenseful because we already know they like each other, just not intensely. I imagine that the only suspense that would be conjured would be "OMG IS HE GOING TO TURN INTO DAVID?!" and thats only because everyone has been brainwashed by the forum.

 

I dunno, just my 2 cents.

Edited September 18, 2006 by writeincode

[NaperVic]

Were Oliver and Frank to get it on it may seem kind of out of place and not emotionally suspenseful because we already know they like each other, just not intensely. I imagine that the only suspense that would be conjured would be "OMG IS HE GOING TO TURN INTO DAVID?!" and thats only because everyone has been brainwashed by the forum.

 

Having been brainwashed by the Domaholic Forum , I think a sex scene between Frank & Oliver would be quite suspenseful and exciting because Dom would basically be writing a mental threeway scene.

 

Say the sex scene starts out between Frank and Oliver with lots of tender foreplay...kissing, cuddling, and gentle - feather soft touches. As the session progresses and Frank's teenage hormones kick in, he might start getting more agressive with Oliver. The repeated thrusting on Oliver's trigger may summon the David personality to emerge. The David personality might then turn the tables on an unsuspecting Frank and take a more dominating role.

 

What a rush that would be for Frank, not knowing at any given time who he's having sex with.

 

Vic

[Marty]

I honestly dont think that this story needs sex in it at all.

 

I agree with what many of the people replying have said regarding skipping over overly explicit sex scenes in stories. I usually find that the really good gay stories I read have very little sex in them at all; or the sex is alluded to rather than described in graphic detail.

 

A number of times I have emailed authors in the past on Nifty to say how much I have enjoyed their stories, and almost without exception one of the things I have commented on is the fact that they have not included graphic sex scenes, and that that had made the story more enjoyable.

 

In an email that the now published author, Keith Morrisette, sent me about 4 years ago when I was in contact with him regarding his work on Nifty ("The Boyfriend" amongst others) and had commented on the fact that I liked the way he alluded to sex in the story, he asked the question: "Frankly, how many times can you describe a blow job and make it sound interesting?".

 

There was a marvellous book by the Irish Author, James O'Neill, published in 2001, called At Swim Two Boys, which dealt with the love affair of two boys during the Irish uprising against British rule in 1916. In over 600 pages there was very little sex, and most of what there was was more or less left to the reader's imagination rather than described in graphic detail on the page. The actual scene where they consummated their love was only about half a page long. And yet the book was so well written that I found it almost impossible to put it down once I had started reading it.

 

Your stories are like that, Dom. It's the plots you weave on the pages that make them so readable. Don't change your way of writing just to suit others.

 

And I also agree with those who have already written to point out that this story is yours, Dom. You have the right to decide for yourself where the story will go. By all means listen to what your readers may have to say. But don't feel that you have to change the story just to suit every little whim that readers may have!

 

~ Marty ~

[johnM]

AMEN to Marty's comments. You're great, Dom. Keep doing what you're doing. Thanks.

 

John

[Juss]

Dom I think your doing a great job. I think OS is fine without sex. At least then I can LEGALLY read it. (Not that the law has stopped me before )

I just think that sex between Frank and Oliver breaches some sort of innocence. Although Oliver is old, his MPD gives him somewhat of a childish character. Thus sex between Frank and Oliver, albeit hot, will be a bit weird.

[Ratatosk]

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In an email that the now published author, Keith Morrisette, sent me about 4 years ago when I was in contact with him regarding his work on Nifty ("The Boyfriend" amongst others) and had commented on the fact that I liked the way he alluded to sex in the story, he asked the question: "Frankly, how many times can you describe a blow job and make it sound interesting?".

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~ Marty ~

 

How true.

 

On the other hand ... the description of the first kiss can be described in many ways (just read all short stories by Comicality - they mostly builds up to the first kiss as a "climax").

 

And Dom is also a master at writing the same scenes. Even here in TOSOM where it does not lead anywhere.

 

I have been thinking of a starting a poll on the best 'first kiss' - oh so many there are out there

___________________________

 

Otherwise I agree with most people here. The story is yours Dom and you makes the decisions about what to tell.

Edited September 19, 2006 by Ratatosk

[Lucy Kemnitzer]

I'm coming late to the topic, and by now you no longer need to be assured that your own projected arc for the story is what you should follow. I think you get that your readers trust you (we let you convince us that the very-real-and-separate-seeming David was a part of a multiple for several chapters, very well done: especially since you were fair and gave all the clues all along)

 

I know that the genre of stories you're working in got its start in erotic writing, but it's bigger than that now, or maybe it's just that it's grown to a very broad definition of eros (where eros is romantic love in general and not just lust in specific -- I'm not knocking lust, I'm just trying to put it in perspective). Foo, time to go to work and no time to elaborate. Later.

[addy100valy]

About the topic of sex in stories:

 

If you involve in a story more sex than the action itself than is a sex story and can't be compared with a Love Story( love is a genuine feeling that comes from your heart for the person next to you and this applies for the characters involved in the story....

So those stories we can call sex stories or as other people already wrote Porn Story.

As I've been reading the answer in this topic are more persons interested in a love story.

But this is my opinion so you need to do what your heart tells you to do.

IS IMPORTANT TO CHOOSE WITH YOUR HEART YOU WILL NEVER FAIL...

 

Addy