[DomLuka] TOU Chapter 16

[fatboyfat]

Woo! Great chapter again Dom.

 

I'm very glad to see Quinn's finally getting a grip on himself, slowly but surely, and realising that being gay isn't the end of his world like he thought it was. I suspect most of us have been through that 'phase' - fortunately mine didn't last as long as Quinn's, and I didn't become neurotic over it

 

And Jude has endeared himself to me more after hearing about his family, although I still find Quinn more attractive. Aw heck, who am I kidding, if they were real I wouldn't say no to either of them - in fact I'd say HELL YES!

 

Looking forward to chapter 17 already! Hope the wait's not too long - I like this current speed of posting!

 

Cheers,

Neil

[Masked Monkey]

Great chapter Dom.

 

In all honesty, right now I hate Brad, I know he'll come around, but right now I hate him.

 

I'm very glad to see Quinn's finally getting a grip on himself, slowly but surely, and realising that being gay isn't the end of his world like he thought it was. I suspect most of us have been through that 'phase' - fortunately mine didn't last as long as Quinn's, and I didn't become neurotic over it

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Techincally speaking, I'm still there, and then again I'm not. I think now that the dam has burst for Quinn, he is going to have a hard time keeping his secret. I suspect he is going to "accidentally" start telling more people than he meant to.

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

[Conner]

Super chapter, Dom!

 

A big part of me wants you to get me through this part of the story as quickly as possible. Instead, you're painstakingly walking us through all Quinn's emotions - the fear, the anxiety, the uncertainty, the confusion, the frustration, the anger, the self-loathing. You write it so well I feel like I'm right there with him. Right now I'm feeling like the wet dish cloth that just finished doing all the Thanksgiving Day dinner dishes.

 

But Quinn has survived. There was good stuff in that chapter as well - especially his little epiphany around the fact that Bree and Brad don't hate him and his acknowlegement that Jude will be there for him no matter what happens.

 

Beautiful chapter. I'm going back to bed.

 

Hugs,

Conner

[glomph]

In all honesty, right now I hate Brad, I know he'll come around, but right now I hate him.

 

I don't.

 

I remember some years ago when a long-time friend told me he was gay. It was very difficult for him to tell me. I couldn't understand why. He had to know that I had to have figured it out already.

 

I was deeply hurt that he had such a hard time telling me. I didn't do anything to make it any more difficult for him, that I'm aware of, but inside, I was reacting a lot like Brad and Bree.

 

The reason he wanted to tell me was that he and his boyfriend had broken up, and he wanted to talk with me about it, and so I needed to know. As we later got into that conversation, I began to get over my hurt, naturally.

[Caliboy]

**Spoiler alert - read TOU16 before continuing.**

 

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Uh-oh......this is not such a great idea......Quinn and Jude at Quinn's mothers house....lying together on Quinn's bed, in Quinn's room (the one with no door)...holding hands...cuddling...sharing a kiss........falling asleep in each other's arms.......................................................

[lobaiga]

Caliboy,

 

These were my thoughts exactly...cant help but wonder will Quinn be coming out to Mum before he knows it.

 

Lore

[JoleChristopher]

dom is sneaky he did leave us with a cliff! great chapter!!

[Masked Monkey]

I find it amazing that even if this isn't a cliff hanger, you all have to make it into one.

 

:king: Snow Dog the Domaholic Danderthal

[Draeconin]

I've been waiting for what seems like forever for this story to be updated. I get a virus that blocks me from the internet, come back two weeks later, and I have three new chapters to read!

 

But, um... I do think you might have twisted a sentence around:

 

"He actually believes that I was born like this, not that I chose it and he still tells me that it

Edited August 7, 2005 by Draeconin

[Rocketcnj]

Once again, a perfect chapter! Even the typo or 2 (but we knew what it meant and Dom doesn't have an editor..so no biggy)

 

What I also loved is Quinn is figuring out that its not just about him

 

 

As Jude said, well yeah, the reaction of Brad and Bree was they were thinking about themselves and how they were upset they didn't know (the all about me syndrome that is very human and human nature at work...just as Jude said that Quinn kept thinking about what this all meant for himself.

 

I also loved that Quinn, after all was said and done, felt a bit dumb that well his sister and best friend didn't hate him (the big light bulb went off)...they were just upset as to 1) not knowing and how did they miss the clues and 2) Bree upset that she wasn't upset first.

 

I remember I told my best friends first because I had a feeling they could handle it better and it was in a way a "dress rehearsal" (meaning if it went bad there and they all knew my family, I could guage what I would face when facing the music, so to speak, with family being told. ..for Quinn, the situation just presented itself with Brad and things just happened from there.

 

I feel Dom handled this chapter perfectly.

 

I also find that Jude, in not disclosing until now how he came out to Quinn, showed his smartness (not wanting to make things seem horrible for Quinn should he come out and doing what he could in helping Quinn see his family won't hate Quinn) and it showed a vulnerability on Jude's part in how he told Quinn what happened for himand well, you hear that story and Quinn started to really care even more for Jude (who wouldn't want to hold him close and as he said make the hurt go away the way tried to for his sister whenever things are going bad for her or she is emotionally in pain..that also endeared me to Quinn...even more so:) In reading how Quinn snuggled closer, held hands...we see how very far Quinn has come in a few short weeks. Add to that and Quinn is gettting out of his own "woe is unto me" and out of his head and thoughts and given the night he had, the chapter ended perfectly with Quinn comforting Jude, on hearing Jude's story, and wanting to make things better for Jude...how sweet and romantic and wonderful is that!!!

 

Another all around perfect chapter, handled perfectly all around.

 

and yeah, I can see how Mrs. Moore sees them asleep on the bed, but I have in my mind's eyes, she won't "get it"....family members rarely seem to, (as I learned...when I told mine...they really had absolutely no clue..except my Dad said he sort of knew but felt it was up to me to tell him and if I didn't that was ok and said he loved me..it was my life so go be happy...but my sisters were past clueless...even the one with all her best gay friends, gay realtor, gay attorney, etc.. their brother Gay...nah, no way..and she still ain't so happy that I am...her stuff not mine)...but I feel Dom got it right...family members knowing what we know to be true (after we admit we are Gay to ourselves) often do not have a clue in any any way..I chuckle now (I even remember friends saying my Dad would be cool but my sisters would be nuts....a hint to those to still go through it...friends that know your family well give great advice:)

 

Its nice that the light bulb went off and Quinn finally gets it...they don't hate him (the old Quinn would just think and over think and not process and say oh they hatttteee me soo much~)

 

and I don't see the ending as cliff hanger..I saw it as endearing, natural and loving (Conner, I hope you don't mind I borrowed your description of "endearing", but it fits perfectly:)

 

I like that Quinn is getting it together and rather quickly, is doing well and I sense that this is going to be ok and he is learning that he is creating his own family (I really believe Bree loves him and the kiss on the cheek said it and I believe Brad will be ok and still be Quinn's friend) and

 

 

Call me Rainbow Sunshine (I will glady accept that compliment any day..even fromthose that mean it as a an insult.... to me its the way this story is heading and I am very happy...it is very Rainbow sunshine and fundamentally wonderful and a great story to be shared in movie, play and other formats)

 

IMHO, its going to be ok and Quinn has Jude and Jude has Quinn..both for each other..so all will be allright and all is right with the world...

 

on that note, I will do the Rainbow Snoopy Dance.....and Rainbow Sunshine, Hershey Kisses and Rainbow Jelly Beans for all:)

 

Michael

Edited August 7, 2005 by Rocketcnj

[libbonobo]

But, um... I do think you might have twisted a sentence around:

 

"He actually believes that I was born like this, not that I chose it and he still tells me that it

[JoleChristopher]

  I've been waiting for what seems like forever for this story to be updated.  I get a virus that blocks me from the internet, come back two weeks later, and I have three new chapters to read! 

 

But, um...  I do think you might have twisted a sentence around:

 

"He actually believes that I was born like this, not that I chose it and he still tells me that it

[Conner]

and I don't see the ending as cliff hanger..I saw it as endearing, natural and loving (Connor, I hope you don't mind I borrowed your description of "endearing", but it fits perfectly:)

 

 

Michael

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Liked your post, Michael. Feel free to borrow anything I have.

 

BTW, you spelled my name wrong.

 

Hugs,

Conner

[viv]

Hmmmm... well, I... loved it!! You knew that! Never doubted you for a second Dom. Always great writing from you! Can't wait for 17 now, I think my tolerance level for waiting becomes shorter between each chapter. Anyway this is me, waiting impatiently, for another great chapter... still waiting... and waiting... and waiting :wacko:

 

Viv

[Cris L]

Not my favourite chapter !

 

Too short.

[Rocketcnj]

and I don't see the ending as cliff hanger..I saw it as endearing, natural and loving (Connor, I hope you don't mind I borrowed your description of "endearing", but it fits perfectly:)

 

 

Michael

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Liked your post, Michael. Feel free to borrow anything I have.

 

BTW, you spelled my name wrong.

 

Hugs,

Conner

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Conner,

 

My deepest apologies on my spelling error...I edited my original post to correct that...I should have known better.....

 

Well, as always, you say it best and your post did so brilliantly!

 

It is part of what makes you the best Director Communication alive Onot to mention one very sexy Lap Boi:) *winks* and "grins*

 

Michael

[libbonobo]

....my tolerance level for waiting becomes shorter between each chapter....

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LOL. Now I see why this is called Domaholics Anonymous!

[Brandonkies]

What bothers me about Quinn's story isn't so much his coming out, and how he's dealing with it.

 

It's him. He seems to have real problems. Problems that might in some way be the result of his sexuality, but have none the less been overlooked for a considerable period of time.

 

His cleaning fetish? Obsessive compulsive a bit? Raking yards at two in the morning results in sleeping pills? Pills that are refillable? He leans toward co dependent relationships, Mar or Jude, doesn't seem to matter, he leans on and does what they want/say for the most part.

 

And then when his depression and change in personality happens his family is surprised? I don't understand that. This loving family. These people that support and nurture him, this close knit circle of friends and family have ignored serious warning signs for years. Have allowed him to become an emotionally stunted young man, who is so frightened of who he is, that he almost suicideds by accident?

 

Searching rooms, doing drug tests, taking doors down, all seem like valid responses. But I think Bree, Brad, and Mom should be doing a bit more soul searching. A bit more questioning about why they alllowed an obvious troubled young man to exist without hope or help.

 

He's been crying out for help for years. Surprised that he's having problems, that he's have a nervous breakdown? They shouldn't be.

[Conner]

Hadn't looked at that way before. Interesting observation, Brandonkies.

 

Hugs,

Conner

[NaperVic]

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These people that support and nurture him, this close knit circle of friends and family have ignored serious warning signs for years.

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He's been crying out for help for years.  Surprised that he's having problems, that he's have a nervous breakdown?  They shouldn't be.

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Welcome Brandonkies to Domaholic's. Glad you took the plunge to post.

 

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Crying out for help for years? I don't think its fair to say that the friends & family have been ignoring serious warning signs for years. Yeah he's a clean freak, but that to me is a quirky behavior more than anything else. I know quite a few people who are obsessive about cleaning like Quinn, but I don't consider it a serious warning sign.

 

And his co-dependant relationship with Mar? If Quinn were my relative, I'd just say he was pussy whipped

 

Most of his odd behaviour and crying out for help has been happening recently. While it does seem like Quinn has been dealing with this stuff for years (as the chapters come out too slowly - LOL), the duration of his odd behaviour in story time has probably only been a month or so.

 

Vic the Domaholic

 

P.S. - Welcome again! Hope to hear more from you.

[Brandonkies]

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These people that support and nurture him, this close knit circle of friends and family have ignored serious warning signs for years.

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He's been crying out for help for years.  Surprised that he's having problems, that he's have a nervous breakdown?  They shouldn't be.

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Welcome Brandonkies to Domaholic's. Glad you took the plunge to post.

 

<niceties out of the way>

 

Crying out for help for years? I don't think its fair to say that the friends & family have been ignoring serious warning signs for years. Yeah he's a clean freak, but that to me is a quirky behavior more than anything else. I know quite a few people who are obsessive about cleaning like Quinn, but I don't consider it a serious warning sign.

 

And his co-dependant relationship with Mar? If Quinn were my relative, I'd just say he was pussy whipped

 

Most of his odd behaviour and crying out for help has been happening recently. While it does seem like Quinn has been dealing with this stuff for years (as the chapters come out too slowly - LOL), the duration of his odd behaviour in story time has probably only been a month or so.

 

Vic the Domaholic

 

 

 

I think he's just a bit beyond the clean freak phase. In particular I'm referencing a couple of items.

 

1) Remember when Luke moved a book from one spot into another on his book case? He couldn't ignore this until Luke left, he HAD to move it back.

 

2) He puts a t-shirt under his pillow and he freaks out almost more about 'folding' clothing that wasn't going in dirty clothes hampter and putting it under his pillow as he did about keeping a guy's t-shirt.

 

3) This quote from chapter 12 "As I looked around I saw that the pillow on my bed wasn

[Trebs]

All that aside  Thanks for the welcome.  It was kind of you to respond, and it made me think. 

 

And I'm afraid I've become a Domaholic too,  I just found his stories this past weekend and spent the entire time reading.  Of course, now I have to wait for him to update 

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Great having you here - you make US think too. And being a Domaholic isn't a bad thing - I'm one, though it also slightly gives me a perverse pleasure to tease my boyfriend about how excited I get when I see a new Dom chapter

 

BTW - it was also kinda obvious that you've taken the full DomLuka plunge. For future reference though, TOU is the one with Quinn and JUDE - Luke is the little slut from that other Dom story...

[NaperVic]

And I'm afraid I've become a Domaholic too,  I just found his stories this past weekend and spent the entire time reading.  Of course, now I have to wait for him to update 

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You read all of them in one weekend?

 

You are Domaholic! However, instead of waiting for an update, maybe you should go back and re-read TLW, TOU, and DD. We'll be having a pop-quiz later in the week for you!

 

Vic

 

P.S. - And don't mind Trebs. He's been against poor misunderstood Luke since way back and has been disparaging his reputation ever since.

[Rabble_Rouser]

I'd also like to say that I think Taylor is the most frustrating character.  He's been there, done that.  Has the wrists to demonstrate he's aware of the possibilities of suicide where Quinn is concerned, but he's the one that seems to most often trigger psychotic episodes.  I've found no redeeming qualities in this guy.  Great he has a sense of humor.  Fat lot of good that's going to do Quinn if he kills himself over one of Taylor's little 'jokes'.

 

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Dom hasn't given us enough of a look at Taylor for me to form a strong opinion of him. There are times when I'm surprised that Quinn did choke the last breath out of him. Then there was when Quinn hit Brad and got trapped by Johns. Taylor (with Trina as an accomplice) who grabbed Quinn to prevent him from being further messed up by Johns. He aslo "babysat" Quinn to make sure he didn't do anything stupid and arranged for him to get the other councillor. Taylor may have all the sensitivity of a sledgehammer (the theatre kiss, pictures in the alley & letting him get drunk to the point of puking). His heart is in the right place but it doesn't always talk to his brain.

 

Taylor's odd humour is great. He put himself in the plus column with the way he handled Quinn the morning of the great hangover. (eggs anyone )

[AFriendlyFace]

Welcome to the forum Brandon I hope you enjoy it here.

 

Interesting observations, though I too would have to say that Bree, Brad, Mom and company, probably didn't get quite as much warning as you say. Quinn just seems like the classic example of an uptight, slightly OCD, overly serious kid. I think they are all aware of it, but lets face it some people are just like that. Speaking as someone "recovring" from "mild OCD" himself I can easily identify with that aspect of Quinn. I can also atest to the fact that in a mild form it is very easy to hide/play off, and simply make it seem like you're overly tidy/serious. Think of Felix Unger from "the odd couple" I don't even get the feeling Quinn is as bad as he was, and no one was trying to have him committed. Besides Quinn noticing those things in his room seems easy and obvious to me as well. some mornings I DON"T make my bed, but when I do I always do it the same way, and yes I don't think it's out of the realm of possiblity that he would notice if his pillow was too low on the bed. As far as his drawer not being closed again I can easily identify, I never leave any drawers/doors/cabinets open, and yes I would notice if they were opened. My surprise was not that Quinn noticed these things, but that his mother had been so sloppy, presumably knowing her son was anal about these matters. But while a little OCD may be amusing to those who can't understand it (and yes it can be devestating if it progresses to a full blown case) I don't think Quinn's degree is very serious.

 

As far as the sleeping pills go I would have to agree with you there. His mother was very foolish in not investigating them further. I even find it troubling that a teenage would HAVE to have sleeping pills in the first place, even for legitimate reasons, but perhaps that is because that is something I CAN"T identify with. I do agree though that his family should have had the sense to remove them when they realized he was depressed.

 

As for him and JUDE being in a co-dependent relationship I'd have to disagree. Quinn IS very dependent on Jude, but while Jude is interested in Quinn, I don't think he's in any way dependent on him. He simply wants to help him and is attracted to him. Yes Jude did discuss his own family problems with Quinn in the last chapter, but he did that at Quinn's request, and it seems much more like he's just sharing something personal with his new boyfriend, not actually relying on him for anything. And a little relying on the other person in a relationship can be a good thing anyway. As for Quinn, yes he seems very dependent on Jude, but I think that's just because of where he is in his life. He did handle his situation very badly, but give the kid a little more time to work it out and learn to handle himself better before you write him off as chronically dependent. I think after this period of stress and turmoil he CAN emerge as a well, whole person, capable of being in healthy relationships.

 

As for Taylor I don't think he's without redeeming characteristics at all. Remember he was the one who helped Quinn escape the homophobic counsilor. He also (with the help of Trina), literally helped Quinn escape from school while he was in the heart of his breakdown. What's more he hasn't outed Quinn or anything like that, and he did help Judd take care of him the night he was so drunk at Trina's. I think Taylor has his own problems, and quite a few of them. and this probably prevents him from relating to others in an entirely healthy way, but I wouldn't by any means describe him as a total screw-up. Sure sometimes his jokes seem a little mean, and seem to cross the line, but by and large I get the feeling that in his own head he's doing it to either lighten up the situation or try to toughen Quinn up. I agree he may be WRONG in trying to do this, but I think he means well. He also seems like quite a few teens who relate to each other in that way.

 

Anyway just my thoughts on the matter, enjoyed reading your, and everyone else's, comments.