TetRefine Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 Dustin Black had pictures of him and his boyfriend having sex leaked online. It was done by that raging douch, Perez Hilton, but its interesting non-the-less. Google it.
hh5 Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 The former bf was a porn star so TD is an upgrade n a younger model, lol I wonder what other potential BF TD was concidering Dustin Black had pictures of him and his boyfriend having sex leaked online. It was done by that raging douch, Perez Hilton, but its interesting non-the-less. Google it.
Uziel Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 His coming out is a great thing for young adults and teenagers (that might be into sports). It'll help them realise they aren't the only one. But frankly, I'd NEVER come out like this. 1
PrivateTim Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Why does everyone feel compelled to slap a label on someone. Tom Daley didn't "come out" and he doesn't "like guys too" as the title of this thread says. He likes a guy. In the future he may like other guys. Or not. But that doesn't make him gay or bi or anything other little box that people want to stuff him in. Sexual orientation is a self identification. Has no one here read Crosscurrents or It Started With Brian? 1
Y_B Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I bet neither of them anticipated that Tom's coming out would bring Dustin's past back up like this. It's so dumb, who the fuck cares? Most people have done much worse things but they don't matter enough for their skeletons to become newsworthy. And the guy DLB was with was HOT...at least from what I could tell in like the 1 or 2 pictures I could find....where did all the good stuff go? I can't find anything from their alleged "sex tape scandal" other than articles talking about it.
Fishwings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Why does everyone feel compelled to slap a label on someone. Tom Daley didn't "come out" and he doesn't "like guys too" as the title of this thread says. He likes a guy. In the future he may like other guys. Or not. But that doesn't make him gay or bi or anything other little box that people want to stuff him in. Sexual orientation is a self identification. Has no one here read Crosscurrents or It Started With Brian? What. Well he does "like guys too," because he said he fancies girls, and he's dating a guy. How's that slapping labels on someone? That's just fact as far as we know LOL. 1
W_L Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Why does everyone feel compelled to slap a label on someone. Tom Daley didn't "come out" and he doesn't "like guys too" as the title of this thread says. He likes a guy. In the future he may like other guys. Or not. But that doesn't make him gay or bi or anything other little box that people want to stuff him in. Sexual orientation is a self identification. Has no one here read Crosscurrents or It Started With Brian? Sort of read one, maybe I will read the other, but it is my choice I liked It Started with Brian, but prefer other classics like Brian's Destruction more .(Yes, I plugged for Dewey's beautiful saga) Think about it this way Tim, people, who have an attraction to their own gender are yearning for someone to be a role model for them. Unless you like "Queer Eye" and "Glee", there are few living heroes around that people can identify with, nothing against those that like mainstream media portrayals though At the end of the day, people might want to be individuals, but they do want a hero, a champion, or someone they can look up to. Athletes have been that for centuries and when a major athlete reveals a key detail that they can identify with, then everyone who shares it want to bask in his glow. Edited December 5, 2013 by W_L 2
PrivateTim Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 What. Well he does "like guys too," because he said he fancies girls, and he's dating a guy. How's that slapping labels on someone? That's just fact as far as we know LOL. "Guys" is plural. As of right now, we knows he likes "a guy", that is singular. That would be the actual fact.
Fishwings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 "Guys" is plural. As of right now, we knows he likes "a guy", that is singular. That would be the actual fact. Ok 1
Y_B Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Crosscurrents and ISWB are not intended as earth shattering publications to blur all traditional boundaries of what is possible. They are stories that show how deep of bonds people can have with one another regardless of gender and it's kind of absurd how some people take things like that and develop these weird sort of interpretations thinking there's no such thing as gay or straight anymore because those are toooo constricting for our newly found hipster way of thinking and that "straight" is obviously conditional because clearly Crosscurrent is the new bible, so let's keep our hopes up that the straight guy next door will let us suck his dick and Tom Daley isn't gay or straight or bi, he's just Crosscurrented because he left out the "s" in "guy" deeply revealing his Crosscurrentedness. Give me a break. I believe the idea of sexuality being fluid is now ollllld news, the arguments for it has been exhausted to death over and over, yesss sexuality is fluid...but it does not mean we are amorphous creatures and when Tom crawls into Dustin's bed tonight, us not slapping labels on him won't prevent them from making babies Edited December 5, 2013 by Y_B 4
rustle Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 From what I've seen, heard, read, Tom Daley is an admirable young man in many ways, with a down-to-earth attitude and pleasant demeanor. It's easy to resent that he felt compelled to come out like this. I wish the paparazzi would take 3 giant steps backward, but tawdry sells, so that's not gonna happen. Tom did a courageous thing in coming out like this, but he also pulled the snake's fangs, like standing up to the school bully. Now, he doesn't ever have to look over his shoulder, fearing his secret will come out. No matter who his boyfriend is, he's fortunate. I'd love to just wrap him up and bring him home with me. But I'd be dead meat when I walked through the door. 4
PrivateTim Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Crosscurrents and ISWB are not intended as earth shattering publications to blur all traditional boundaries of what is possible. They are stories that show how deep of bonds people can have with one another regardless of gender and it's kind of absurd how some people take things like that and develop these weird sort of interpretations thinking there's no such thing as gay or straight anymore because those are toooo constricting for our newly found hipster way of thinking and that "straight" is obviously conditional because clearly Crosscurrent is the new bible, so let's keep our hopes up that the straight guy next door will let us suck his dick and Tom Daley isn't gay or straight or bi, he's just Crosscurrented because he left out the "s" in "guy" deeply revealing his Crosscurrentedness. How badly you interpret my words, which were pretty clear. No one can declare what anyone elses sexual orientation is. That is not new nor hipster. Crosscurrents and It Started With Brian are examples of someone who is straight can fall in love with someone of the same gender and still be straight. Tom Daley has not declared his orientation, nor should he ever have to. It is no ones damned business. But Mr. Daley was very clear that he likes "a guy". He didn't forget an "s", it wasn't a mistake, he doesn't like "guys", he likes one person, who happens to be a guy. People who do not know Mr. Daley, rushing to declare him one orientation or another is unseemly at best.
Fishwings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I just don't see a problem with the majority of people assuming Daley is bisexual given the information that he has made publicly available. I mean, if that turns out to be not true in the future, or if he wants to dispel misconceptions... awesome. But so far, there's no disrespect, and no invasion of privacy, so what's the big deal? 2
rustle Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I assume all hot guys are gay until proven straight. Ever the optimist, aren't you, buddy? 1
Y_B Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) No I knew exactly what you meant. and my comment wasn't directly all at you but partly at you and the rest in general. You are arguing semantics and trying to sound like you're on to something profound when in reality you're just nit picking. I don't think every person who has come out in the manner of revealing they are currently dating someone of the same gender needs to supplement their coming out with "by the way just to clarify, I do like alllll guys, I'm just dating this one, I don't wan't you confused thinking I only like 1 guy even though I am totally straight because I only said i have a boyfriend and you clearly cannot connect dots". The fact that Tom very quickly said "I still fancy girls" implies he knew exactly what people are going to think and he wanted to make sure they think a certain way. I don't care if he's bi or gay or straight and nobody was declaring him anything, but we all have own opinions, I just didn't understand what your point was trying to mask Tom in this shroud of ambiguity....like Luc said, what does it matter? Edited December 5, 2013 by Y_B 2
Fishwings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 At the end of the day, I have to agree with W_L, that the fact that Daley told everyone that he's dating a guy (Which is coming out... depending on your definition of coming out) is great because it sets an example to people who like people of their own gender. Whether people assume he's bisexual or a straight guy dating one dude is really not the point because they're not discrediting what he's said. 1
Site Administrator Cia Posted December 5, 2013 Site Administrator Posted December 5, 2013 Why exactly is an argument spreading over a label? Is it really that important? Everyone can lump sexualities however they want... the only person's opinion you need to worry about is yours, for yourself. You wanna be gay, lesbian, straight, bi, trans... no one but you can decide that. I'm with a man, that doesn't make me straight. If I was with a woman, that wouldn't make me a lesbian. I'm bisexual. I like both, depending on the person I'm with. But you can be damn sure I get people who make their own judgments from the outside. *shrugs* I know who I am, though, so it doesn't matter. Without knowing Daley personally we can't say how he identifies, and truthfully... it doesn't matter anyway. One day people will see that. At least I hope so. 3
Y_B Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I'm with a man, that doesn't make me straight. If I was with a woman, that wouldn't make me a lesbian. I'm bisexual. I like both, depending on the person I'm with. Come spend a night with me and you'll never go back to women again 1
Fishwings Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Come spend a night with me and you'll never go back to women again WOWWWWWWWWWWWW LOL
JamesSavik Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 The only label I've even tried to put on the kid is NICE. I was twenty once and know for a fact that sexuality is a fluid thing.
Site Administrator Cia Posted December 5, 2013 Site Administrator Posted December 5, 2013 Come spend a night with me and you'll never go back to women again IN YOUR 3
LJH Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Well, I know nothing about Daley. It is great that he is dating a guy. As for labels, I like being labelled gay. I have no problem with labels at all.You can call me anything you like, as long as you call me. Lol 1
Westie Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Come spend a night with me and you'll never go back to women again Or she could spend the night with me (and Paya, obvs), we'd drink wine, eat chocolate, gossip, listen to music and at 4am (probably)... Drunk dial Nephy and write status' on GA that we'd regret later My night sounds more fun Edited December 5, 2013 by Westie 3
MikeL Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Crosscurrentedness? Good one, Yang. You may want to be careful doing that; someone may go and slap a label on you.
Zombie Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Well, one thing I think we can all agree on - on the Kinsey Scale Tom is not a zero 1
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