C James Posted February 6, 2007 Author Posted February 6, 2007 Option 1: Don't bother. There are stories out there that don't correspond to reality but are still good stories. I remember a short story by Isaac Asimov that relied on the fact that Mercury kept one face always to the Sun. Then the scientists revised that so Mercury isn't tide-locked. Isaac Asimov stated that he refused to change the story and said the scientists should've gotten their facts right in the first place. I can see doing that as Mercury was thoguht to be tidaly locked when he wrote that, AND it was critical to the story. Option 2: Unless it's a major plot point, just fix it and send a revised chapter out. This can be a problem with a site like Nifty, but most hosting sites will accept updates from their authors (I've done it twice to the sites that host my stories). Editing eFiction stories is a breeze, so that would certainly be an option. Unless, of course, it is something integral to the plot and I can't change it. Option 3: Issue a press statement that, contrary to what people thought, the story does NOT exist in the real world, but in an imaginary place where any passing resemblence to reality is purely coincidental. ROFL!!!!!!!!!! That might work! Well, maybe. I saw something on TV a while back while channel surfing, and it had one character in a lab coat telling another about the cuase of ulcers: Viruses. I immediatly switched channels because the real cause of most ulcers is Helicobacter pylori, which are bacteria, not viri! UGH. With the budgets they have they can't do a 20 second internet search to verify a fact? I don't mind actually using fiction (such as making up the towns and counties) but to have a glaring accidental blunder is something I'd much prefer to avoid. OK, talk about slow. I saw the title, did a pass through 13, went on to other things, but it wasn
C James Posted February 7, 2007 Author Posted February 7, 2007 Announcment! I'm slow! Well, I doubt that is news to anyone. But, I do not at the moment have a chapter to post. Chapter 13 was very difficult to write, and took me forever, so I was late getting it to Emoe. The good news is that the chapter exists, and that Emoe has it. The delay though is because I was late in sending it in. I'm trying to get caught up again, but not making much progress. I'll be lucky if I have Ch 14 finished by tonight when in reality I ought to be finishing up 15 right now. But, in my own defense, I do have to type with hooves, which ain't easy.
Bondwriter Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 But, in my own defense, I do have to type with hooves, which ain't easy. We all have our little problems, don't we? Didn't prevent to shyly, quietly post tons of messages... What about the contest?
C James Posted February 7, 2007 Author Posted February 7, 2007 We all have our little problems, don't we? Didn't prevent to shyly, quietly post tons of messages... What about the contest? But I almost never post... I'm a lurker, remember? As for the contest, I've compiled the entries below. If I have missed anyone, please let me know! I am beginning to think that Reverend Thaddeus and Sheriff Johnson are both involved in some kind of criminal activity together, perhaps a child porn industry. Maybe the data stick has some incriminating information and they would kill anybody that might expose them. I just can
shadowgod Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 SO nothing about Officer Williams being behind the whole thing??
Jack Scribe Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 [...I do not at the moment have a chapter to post. The good news is that the chapter exists, Hey, CJ, S**T HAPPENS. I still think that the sheriff and the fundy minister are getting it on. And with all apologies to Equus, maybe they have a thing about horses (the mount and all)? Knowing your calculating political mind, I'm sure that the "stick" has some damning evidence about evil doings concerning candidates for the 2008 race. But since Rev. Ted Haggard has now become a 100% heterosexual...who knows. Jack
EMoe57 Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Announcment! I'm slow! Well, I doubt that is news to anyone. But, I do not at the moment have a chapter to post. Chapter 13 was very difficult to write, and took me forever, so I was late getting it to Emoe. The good news is that the chapter exists, and that Emoe has it. The delay though is because I was late in sending it in. I'm trying to get caught up again, but not making much progress. I'll be lucky if I have Ch 14 finished by tonight when in reality I ought to be finishing up 15 right now. But, in my own defense, I do have to type with hooves, which ain't easy. The good news is that it is back in CJ's mailbox. I know he had some post-send changes so it may yet take a few days to make an appearance. And of course with CJ changing things AFTER its been to Beta Reader and Editor means there should be some fun goofs. Watch for the extra hoove prints!
C James Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) SO nothing about Officer Williams being behind the whole thing?? I'll add that to the list. Hey, CJ, S**T HAPPENS. I still think that the sheriff and the fundy minister are getting it on. And with all apologies to Equus, maybe they have a thing about horses (the mount and all)? Knowing your calculating political mind, I'm sure that the "stick" has some damning evidence about evil doings concerning candidates for the 2008 race. But since Rev. Ted Haggard has now become a 100% heterosexual...who know. Jack Hi JAck!!! I'll add those to the predictions list. Thanks!! As for Rev. Haggard, yeah, I'm sure he is 100% heterosexual, until the next time he gets caught sleeping with a guy. The good news is that it is back in CJ's mailbox. I know he had some post-send changes so it may yet take a few days to make an appearance. And of course with CJ changing things AFTER its been to Beta Reader and Editor means there should be some fun goofs. Watch for the extra hoove prints! I just got it! Thanks to Emoe, this chapter will be online within two hours (I do have some work to do on it). I'll go get to work! THANK YOU EMOE!!!!!! Edited February 8, 2007 by C James
C James Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 I said two hours, and I made it with two miniutes to spare. Chapter 13: Sermon and the Mount, is up!
shadowgod Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 I said two hours, and I made it with two miniutes to spare. Chapter 13: Sermon and the Mount, is up! Ummm.... Where My Canadians at? FALSE ADVERTISING!!!!
Bondwriter Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 The mount! DIY! Yup, I should have seen it coming. The sermon is nicely written, and Reverend Mike's antics can be easily visualized. (One point he could also make is about treating workers fairly, I found out looking in this antiquated set of laws) This is obviously an educational chapter, not only giving a different point of view on religion, but also explaining how to set up a mailbox. And Veronica's legal babble is hilarious. One little thing I might suggest: it comes to my mind because of this example, but this is a feeling I've had at other points. During the whole Speedo joke, we're given the set-up, how it comes down and Chris finds out as they pu their laundry in the washer. Then, though that's what would happen in reality, he repeats the whole thing to the audience; but yet it is fiction, couln't he just grunt some annoyed thing when his friends find out Steve pulled a prank on him? So THEY figure out so the story is not repeated, or not by the same person. Just a remark. Overall nice chapter. It feels we're in the middle of the story and bracing up for what comes next.
Jack Frost Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Hi JAck!!! Hi back to you, CJ. ^^ Ummm.... Where My Canadians at? I'm right here. *me goes off to read*
Jack Frost Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Chadwick? What the hell?...LOL I love how you made the legal case. Now that is your unique marker in the story. Go you!
old bob Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Hi CJ Its a long time gone since I posted my comments to your story, so I will sum up all my impression. 1. Your writing is improved from chapter to chapter . 2. The sermon of reverend Mike is exemplary. It should be printed and broadcast largely for itself. BTW, I first supposed that you copied it from somewhere 3. The "gimmick" of the Data Stick, going from chapter to chapter, makes the all story "panting", its a real "Godsend". 4. My impression is that you are not so easy to write detailled sex-scenes. The idea to have your actors to stop it for any practical reason is funny and brings "spice" in the story. Well done . 5. You are a master in using cliffangers. Each chapter ends with a note of interrogation which brings "water in mouth", as we say in french. In one phrase : its a pleasure to red "for the love". Just one point : whats the meaning of your title ? Go on and take it easy.
C James Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 The mount! DIY! Yup, I should have seen it coming. I don't know whether you are familier with slang in english, but "mount" also has a sexual connotation, which is what steve meant when he asked if Veronica really wanted him to mount her mailbox. This is obviously an educational chapter, not only giving a different point of view on religion, but also explaining how to set up a mailbox. And Veronica's legal babble is hilarious. One little thing I might suggest: it comes to my mind because of this example, but this is a feeling I've had at other points. During the whole Speedo joke, we're given the set-up, how it comes down and Chris finds out as they pu their laundry in the washer. Then, though that's what would happen in reality, he repeats the whole thing to the audience; but yet it is fiction, couln't he just grunt some annoyed thing when his friends find out Steve pulled a prank on him? So THEY figure out so the story is not repeated, or not by the same person. Just a remark. I'll argue that point, by saying that I agree 100%!! LoL! Yes, i meant to go back and fix that, and should have. It struck me similarly when I wrote it. I should have had the narrative simply say "And Steve explained how he had tricked me again". Or something along those lines. Or better yet, have the discovery of the trick occur in front of the friends. Ummm.... Where My Canadians at? FALSE ADVERTISING!!!! I'm right here. Well, shdowgod, it looks like you have a Canadian right there! Been as he's willing, and from a neighboring nation (gotta obey Leviticus, after all) I'll sell him to you for a reasonable price. Chadwick? What the hell?...LOL I love how you made the legal case. Now that is your unique marker in the story. Go you! Thanks! I had fun writing Chris' "Trial". BTW, there is a bit of inside humor in there. Can anyone pick it out? It has to do with a certain anonymous beta reader. Hi CJ Its a long time gone since I posted my comments to your story, so I will sum up all my impression. 1. Your writing is improved from chapter to chapter . 2. The sermon of reverend Mike is exemplary. It should be printed and broadcast largely for itself. BTW, I first supposed that you copied it from somewhere 3. The "gimmick" of the Data Stick, going from chapter to chapter, makes the all story "panting", its a real "Godsend". 4. My impression is that you are not so easy to write detailed sex-scenes. The idea to have your actors to stop it for any practical reason is funny and brings "spice" in the story. Well done . 5. You are a master in using cliffangers. Each chapter ends with a note of interrogation which brings "water in mouth", as we say in french. In one phrase : its a pleasure to red "for the love". Just one point : whats the meaning of your title ? Go on and take it easy. Wow, thanks!! The sermon, including the theological arguments used, was my own. I have a strong dislike for Fundamentalists, so I've always wanted to come up with theological points against their creed instead of just tit-for-tat arguments over homosexuality. A knowledgeable friend did give me some pointers and cirtiques on the theology (I did make a mistake there initially) and that sermon was an utter beast to write. It took me weeks. You are right, I'm not good at writing sex scenes. I've only ever done two: the one in Chapter 8, and the one in my summer anthology entry, "No shirt, No problem." However, for plot reasons I have no choice but to write one soon. The title is Emoe's creation. I couldn't think of one, but he did (thank you Emoe!!!! ) . The basic meaning is best answered with a question: Chris is enduring a great deal (including people trying to kill him) to be with Steve, why is he willing to? The answer is the title.
Bondwriter Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Uh... CJames, I was the one who said that the mount could have been some sexual innuendo. And from my knowledge of other European languages, the equine analogies exist in about all of them. Well, I won't ask for the title of next chapter, since you must have carefully scheduled its release in your marketing campaign, but it's the next piece of information I'm waiting for. Is this the inside humor? "Tsk, tsk," Veronica scolded, "how soon they forget. There is an immutable law of nature that has, as a requirement for true ditzyness, that a guy must be three things: Blond, and named Steve."
EMoe57 Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Ummm.... Where My Canadians at? FALSE ADVERTISING!!!!Didn
Conner Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 You are right, I'm not good at writing sex scenes. I've only ever done two: the one in Chapter 8, and the one in my summer anthology entry, "No shirt, No problem." However, for plot reasons I have no choice but to write one soon. Ahem....a few things for ya Goat-buddy. This is great news! Il est grand temps! Old Bob did not say that you are not good at writing sex scenes. He simply observed that you were not "easy" i.e. comfortable with it. Your sex scenes are great! Like everything else about writing "practice makes perfect". Here, it's just your comfort / confidence index that needs practice. So, at the risk of repeating myself, keep practising. We went to bed in my apartment that night feeling that things were finally looking up, which put us in a great mood that lead to a few hours of indescribable fun. When I read this line, I clearly recall thinking, "Oh heck, why don't you give it a shot anyway!" Now hear this, you're quite expert at maintaining the sexual tension between Steve and Chris. Your story has "eros" dripping all over the place - no question. A little fulfillment would truly be appreciated. BTW, I'm starting an organization to be known as SageGoats. "Self-appointed goat experts Governing over all things sexual" I'm issuing you a free membership card. I'm sure this will boost your confidence! Conner
Jack Frost Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Well, shdowgod, it looks like you have a Canadian right there! Been as he's willing, and from a neighboring nation (gotta obey Leviticus, after all) I'll sell him to you for a reasonable price. You're a goat, not a human. So this makes this moot since you cannot sell Jack Frost. I'm almost as immoral as God himself.
captainrick Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 Ahem....a few things for ya Goat-buddy. This is great news! Il est grand temps! Old Bob did not say that you are not good at writing sex scenes. He simply observed that you were not "easy" i.e. comfortable with it. Your sex scenes are great! Like everything else about writing "practice makes perfect". Here, it's just your comfort / confidence index that needs practice. So, at the risk of repeating myself, keep practising. When I read this line, I clearly recall thinking, "Oh heck, why don't you give it a shot anyway!" Now hear this, you're quite expert at maintaining the sexual tension between Steve and Chris. Your story has "eros" dripping all over the place - no question. A little fulfillment would truly be appreciated. BTW, I'm starting an organization to be known as SageGoats. "Self-appointed goat experts Governing over all things sexual" I'm issuing you a free membership card. I'm sure this will boost your confidence! Conner Hmmm, not one to say I told ya so, but . . . . anyhow, Loved this chapter!
C James Posted February 9, 2007 Author Posted February 9, 2007 (edited) Uh... CJames, I was the one who said that the mount could have been some sexual innuendo. And from my knowledge of other European languages, the equine analogies exist in about all of them. Well, I won't ask for the title of next chapter, since you must have carefully scheduled its release in your marketing campaign, but it's the next piece of information I'm waiting for. Is this the inside humor? "Tsk, tsk," Veronica scolded, "how soon they forget. There is an immutable law of nature that has, as a requirement for true ditzyness, that a guy must be three things: Blond, and named Steve." Ahhh, that's right, you did! Perhaps I should attempt to argue my way out of this by saying I had no way of knowing whether you knew what you meant? Yup!!! You got the inside bit! I had not heard the Edited February 9, 2007 by C James
Jack Frost Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 So, what am I bid for this fine Canadian? If you are concerned that you do not know the rules that apply when it comes to how to treat your Canadian, rest assured, Leviticus does, as I recall, offer a few bits of advice on how to treat slaves. Hey, you're from a foreign country too. So I have the right to sell you as well.
Bondwriter Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 I don't mind the "fade to sex" stuff. It makes the few sex scenes this more powerful, and though I love reading erotica, this is not what CJames is after and what I expect from his story. Any people from the UK, Belgium, Germany, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Monte Carlo, Italy, Spain to bid for? I seem to understand Leviticus refers to neighboring nations...
C James Posted February 9, 2007 Author Posted February 9, 2007 Hey, you're from a foreign country too. So I have the right to sell you as well. Nope, nope, that only applies to people... I don't mind the "fade to sex" stuff. It makes the few sex scenes this more powerful, and though I love reading erotica, this is not what CJames is after and what I expect from his story. Any people from the UK, Belgium, Germany, Luxemburg, Switzerland, Monte Carlo, Italy, Spain to bid for? I seem to understand Leviticus refers to neighboring nations... If you are trying to list all your neighboring countries, you missed one. (Yes, you are receiving geography lessons from a Goat). As for the erotica, I'm very fond of "fade to sex" in certain circumstances. I think it works better in some cases, for dramatic and emotional reasons to leave things up the the imagination. I'm also no fan of frequent sex in a story. But, yes, there will be sex again in FTL. Heck, I just realized that I missed a golden opportunity to include a sex scene. Remember those sneaky mule deer from the "ambush" chapter? What if they had been mating when Chris spotted them from atop makeout rock? That would have counted as a sex scene, wouldn't it?
Jack Frost Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 Nope, nope, that only applies to people... If you are trying to list all your neighboring countries, you missed one. (Yes, you are receiving geography lessons from a Goat). You're not people either...just a goat. So we can't sell each other and we're immune for sale to anyone and immune to sell anyone. C'mon...we should be happy. Hmmm? If I'm correct...Canada has three neighbors. One is obviously the USA. Now we have two more...separated by small straits of water. Can you name them?
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