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[Marty]

14 minutes ago, clochette said:

France seems to have the same problems with the vaccines. Lot of people booked an appointment but it had to be canceled due to not enough vaccines... 

The official Irish website is showing that 143,000 people have received their first dose of the vaccine, as of 8:00am this morning. The first doses were administered on the 4th of January.

A rough calculation that I have just done suggests that, for our population of approximately 5 million, it will take just over two years to vaccinate the whole population at the current vaccination rate.

Hopefully the supply of vaccines will increase in the coming weeks and months...

I was talking to someone who lives in France earlier today who said that France has not yet vaccinated one million people, but has indicated it is on schedule to have everyone vaccinated by August. He also said that he reckons the French Health Minister should resign when that doesn't happen...

[clochette]

7 minutes ago, Marty said:

I was talking to someone who lives in France earlier today who said that France has not yet vaccinated one million people, but has indicated it is on schedule to have everyone vaccinated by August. He also said that he reckons the French Health Minister should resign when that doesn't happen...

Yeah they're playing cool, like "dont worry, we're on schedule, everything is fine, if there's a problem it's not us it's the vaccine companies who dont deliver on time, blablabla" we'll see 🤷🏻‍♀️

On tv they show that today was the one year anniversary of the government saying "masks are not necessary"  the previous health minister said, a few months after her resignation, that as a doctor she had tried to alert the government, she had said it wasnt just a flu and it could go viral really quickly. 

Edited January 26, 2021 by clochette

[Marty]

And I do also worry about the fate of the poorer countries in the world, with the richer countries apparently buying up vast quantities of the vaccines...

But I'll say no more, as I am in danger of sounding political.  

[dughlas]

53 minutes ago, Marty said:

Well, the thaw came.  Which meant the roads were safe to transport the Victoria sandwich to birthday boy.

It was a pleasant change to visit my social bubble for the first time in over three weeks. We had tea and cake, and enjoyed several hours of pleasant chat.

And the cake was delicious! (Even I had to agree with that. )

Perhaps the only sad part of the visit was that birthday boy's younger brother (one of my two male strippers) had to spend a good part of the time stuck in his bedroom doing online classes; as the schools have not yet reopened due to the pandemic. But if school had been open, it is likely I may not have seen him at all.

With the number of Covid-related deaths here now having surpassed 3,000, the government this evening announced further restrictions on travel and socialising. They also stated that it is unlikely schools will reopen until the end of March.

Hopefully, as the vaccination program moves forward, things will start to improve. It seems as though the biggest roadblock at the moment is sourcing sufficient supplies of the vaccine itself. Although it's looking likely that the EU will approve other vaccines shortly, so maybe that will speed things up.

That said, the online "Vaccine Queue Calculator for Ireland" is currently suggesting that it may not be until 4th April before I receive my first dose, even taking into account that I am over 70 and have an underlying health condition.

Which means I may still have to be socially isolating for another two months...

 

Glad you were able to get out, visit and eat cake.

I am sorry for the delay in getting the vaccine. We're in the same boat. Mum is 85 and has an underlying health. Most places here giving the shot have filled all their available appointments. Most also require you sign up online but since they don't have enough vaccine for everyone many of the websites are closed. I should qualify because of my kidney disease but I am not in the state of my legal residence so ... we're being careful. We hadn't been to church since the first Sunday in January because my head was aching and the reverberation of the organ aggravates the migraine. We count ourselves fortunate because we learned early last week that the pastor has tested positive. He probably got it from the head of the church school who may have caught it from one of the students who had it. Mum gives asthma shots to one of her neighbors every two weeks. Turns out that lady contracted the virus. Fortunately, she and mum have taken precautions and mum seems to have avoided getting the virus from her. It has been three weeks since mum gave her the last injection. The two ladies thought it best if mum didn't do the one this past weekend.

[dughlas]

2 hours ago, Marty said:

No. Just the rats who try sneaking into my house overnight to steal my food.  

Marty I'm rather sure that is a dog in her avatar not a rat ...

[Bucket1]

30 minutes ago, clochette said:

Tomorrow morning I'm meeting with the anesthesiologist for monday surgery. The reality of it all is now getting to me. I'm not really stressing but I think I'm only realizing it's not nothing to be totally put under.

[Sherye Story Reader]

25 minutes ago, Albert1434 said:

Look dear you have to have two shots and even then you need to be careful

I know! I also heard that the vaccine is the actual virus but given to you to see how you react to it and given in 2 shots

[Marty]

1 minute ago, dughlas said:

Marty I'm rather sure that is a dog in her avatar not a rat ...

Maybe...

But poison is poison.

(And, anyway, none of the shops over here sell dog poison.)

 

[Marty]

1 minute ago, Story Reader said:

I also heard that the vaccine is the actual virus but given to you to see how you react to it and given in 2 shots

And I also heard the moon is made of green cheese.

[clochette]

1 minute ago, Marty said:

And I also heard the moon is made of green cheese.

[Sherye Story Reader]

6 minutes ago, Marty said:

Maybe...

But poison is poison.

(And, anyway, none of the shops over here sell dog poison.)

 

Well, it would not work on the avatar that was my chizer, cause he got ran over last year and if you poison my Border collie then @Headstall and I would come after you and put a bridle on you while all his cats ride around on your back on top of the saddle they are on that we cinched up on you, leading you around like a small horse! lol

[Bucket1]

5 minutes ago, Story Reader said:

I know! I also heard that the vaccine is the actual virus but given to you to see how you react to it and given in 2 shots

None of the vaccines are using attenuated virus... but the two shots are required, one to prime up your system and another to lock in the immunity. That’s a common technique for a variety of vaccines.

5 minutes ago, Marty said:

And I also heard the moon is made of green cheese.

complete rubbish... just look at it... obviously made of gray cheese 

[Marty]

54 minutes ago, Story Reader said:

Just found out that the vaccine will finally come to Texas next week. I will finally feel better about going out more. 

I feel sorry for your neighbours...

[Albert1434]

1 minute ago, Bucket1 said:

None of the vaccines are using attenuated virus... but the two shots are required, one to prime up your system and another to lock in the immunity. That’s a common technique for a variety of vaccines.

complete rubbish... just look at it... obviously made of gray cheese 

That is correct but it still only has 95% efficacy so you could still get it

[dughlas]

8 minutes ago, Story Reader said:

I know! I also heard that the vaccine is the actual virus but given to you to see how you react to it and given in 2 shots

I don't think that's correct. The two currently available vaccines require two shots but Johnson & Johnson is developing a vaccine that only requires one shot. We should hear more about that vaccine within the next week. However none of them use the actual virus,  they were developed using mRNA that triggers the immune response. Using mRNA techniques is common in a number of medical applications and is the reason they could develope vaccines so quickly.

[Sherye Story Reader]

1 minute ago, Marty said:

I feel sorry for your neighbours...

Hey my neighbors love me! We are all elderly except the ones behind me, they are 30 yrs younger but they are the nicest people ever!

[Marty]

5 minutes ago, Bucket1 said:

complete rubbish... just look at it... obviously made of gray cheese 

So I was lied to?

You just can't trust anybody these days. 

[Sherye Story Reader]

2 minutes ago, dughlas said:

I don't think that's correct. The two currently available vaccines require two shots but Johnson & Johnson is developing a vaccine that only requires one shot. We should hear more about that vaccine within the next week. However none of them use the actual virus,  they were developed using mRNA that triggers the immune response. Using mRNA techniques is common in a number of medical applications and is the reason they could develope vaccines so quickly.

Well when I told my step daughter in law that I was going to probably get the vaccine, she said to tell her and her and my stepson will be gone cause I will have the virus and they don't want it. But if they don't want it, then why don't they wear a mask out in public?  

[dughlas]

16 minutes ago, Marty said:

And I also heard the moon is made of green cheese.

 

8 minutes ago, Bucket1 said:

complete rubbish... just look at it... obviously made of gray cheese 

He lives in Ireland, for them it's all about the green ...

[Bucket1]

2 minutes ago, Marty said:

So I was lied to?

You just can't trust anybody these days. 

Hmmmm... was it Ronald Reagan that said trust but verify?

[Sherye Story Reader]

1 minute ago, dughlas said:

 

He lives in Ireland, for them it's all about the green ...

Yep even their drinks are green!

[Albert1434]

I prefer a blue cheese moon

[Sherye Story Reader]

Here you go @Albert1434

[Marty]

5 minutes ago, Albert1434 said:

That is correct but it still only has 95% efficacy so you could still get it

True.

But my understanding is that no vaccine, for any disease is 100% efficient.

One of the main functions of any vaccination programme is to build such a high level of immunity in the general population (known as herd immunity) that the number of people in the community that carry the virus is lowered to such a low level that transmission becomes much reduced (if not actually eliminated completely).

[Albert1434]

We may get thunder snow wow

Edited January 27, 2021 by Albert1434